Carol just found two interesting web pages re oxygen use:
http://www.avweb.com/news/aeromed/181896-1.html
http://www.c-f-c.com/supportdocs/
Mike
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Mike Borgelt wrote:
Carol just found two interesting web pages re oxygen use:
http://www.avweb.com/news/aeromed/181896-1.html
http://www.c-f-c.com/supportdocs/
This one is very informative too:
http://www.vnh.org/FSManual/01/02RespPhysiology.html
- mark
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Mike Borgelt wrote:
Carol just found two interesting web pages re oxygen use
And this one:
http://www.avweb.com/news/aeromed/181893-1.html
(trawling through bookmarks :-)
- mark
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This link works http://www.c-f-c.com/supportdocs/abo4.htm
Pilots in the US can fly between 12,500' and 14,000' for up to 30 minutes
without oxygen; it must be used above 14,000'.
It says that the average pilot _should_ be able to effectively fly his
aircraft for 30 minutes or more at altitudes o
Mark, your opening paragraphs add little to the debate. All I stated was
the limit for oxygen use was not set arbitrarily. The fact is hypoxic
effects kick in at much lower levels and tolerances vary with individuals.
As you stated, the regulators picked a risk level they were happy with
because
At 05:50 PM 25/08/04 +1000, you wrote:
If we were able to determine that, the
>next question would be, "Why does one nation have less lenient rules
>than another nation if the more lenient rules are equally effective
>at achieving their stated goals?"
>
>Sadly, that kind of review process is almost
On 25/8/04 5:20 PM, "Christopher H Thorpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mark, your opening paragraphs add little to the debate. All I stated was
> the limit for oxygen use was not set arbitrarily. The fact is hypoxic
> effects kick in at much lower levels and tolerances vary with individuals.
>
The Long Mynd accident was a bit more complex than suggested in the posts
below.
The woman killed was not walking across the strip, she was not informed
during the site briefing about the danger of using the track next to the
strip but was told that the gliders were landing at different part of th
Perhaps Americans lung capacity has to do with all the hot
air..they..speano, no, stop me! Keep It Up!
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This is yet another interesting discussion.
I have a question. It needs to be prefaced by an introduction.
On most weekends I hear the aircraft used by the parachute clubs on the
ATC frequencies getting clearances for climbs to assigned levels where
presumably
people then step out of th
At 09:09 PM 25/08/04 +0930, you wrote:
>
> This is yet another interesting discussion.
>
> It needs to be prefaced by an introduction.
>
>:-o
>
> There have been times when I have heard them climb to levels in excess of
>the magic 10,000 feet - I seem to recall FL120 or higher being
Time I waded into the debate, as I'm a parachutist
myself.
Parachuting op regs 5.2.5: Descents shall not be
made from above FL140 unless (a) a course of instruction has been completed
covering all aspects of descents from above FL140, and (b) at all times while
above 1 ft an oxygen mas
>What oxygen regime is used by:>a) the
parachutists,>and>b) The pilot of the
aeroplane.>Regards,>Terry>(who feels strongly that it
should be possible to gain a minimum climb to Gold C altitude >without the
hassles of oxygen equipment)
Terry,
I don't know what they do in the parachuti
Christopher H Thorpe wrote:
Above 10,000' skill levels and judgment
start to deteriorate, getting more pronounced with altitude. You could
argue altitudes and exposure times all you like but in the end you cannot
change the laws of nature.
Is there some magical transition which occurs between 9,99
I know I said previously that I wouldn't weigh in to the regulation and policing
debate but I just have one
question for all the people that are unhappy with the 10,000' regulation in Australia.
What are you proposing
instead?
a) no rule at all?
b) the same rule as the US?
c) a different limit
Mark, we all know there is no "magical transition". 10,000' is what has
been considered acceptable for the average person. I also never said
anything about the reduction in partial pressure from, as you say, 98% to
90% being negligible, what I said was the effect of hypoxia was negligible.
I have
At 04:35 PM 25/08/04 +0100, you wrote:
>
>My personal vote for what it's worth would be option b. It would probably
be easiest to argue to CASA since it
>would bring us in line with the US.
Not that long ago this was discussed at CASA level and they decided not to
change it.
There was a little
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I've done the course and Edinburugh and organised 2 other courses for glider
pilots
Unfortunately some years ago they stopped allowing public access. Maybe we
could ask again since its been some time.
I found the chamber run very very interesting and for me personally, a
little disturbing.
We w
How about a second pilot field for two seater entries? (Like the Stemme)
-Cath
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> How about a second pilot field for two seater entries? (Like the Stemme)
We do need a separate entry from each pilot.
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Regarding lung capacity, Cath, childhood ashma will increase an individuals lung
capacity. When doing a dive course 20 years ago, I blew the lung volume machine off
scope for the medical, The doc assuring me it was due to ashma as a child (still got
the curse) and was quite common. Interestingly
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I know I said previously that I wouldn't weigh in to the regulation and policing debate but I just have one
question for all the people that are unhappy with the 10,000' regulation in Australia. What are you proposing
instead?
a) no rule at all?
b) the sa
The USAF School of Aerospace Medicine has this to say about the stages of
hypoxia:-
The symptomatology of hypoxia may be divided into stages related to
the approximate pressure, the altitudes, and the oxygen saturations of the
blood.
STAGES OF HYPOXIA
Altitude in
At 02:17 PM 26/08/04 +1000, you wrote:
>2.1Operation of a glider to a height greater than 10,000 ft QNH is
>permitted only when oxygen is available for continuous use by each person on
>board for any period in excess of 30 minutes that the glider is between
>10,000 ft and 13,000 ft QNH.
>
>This
Those with an interest in airspace issues may like to look at
www.dicksmithflyer.com.au
There are 3 papers critiquing Airservices risk model which they are trying
to use to roll back NAS.
I gather they weren't even going to show this to anyone until John Anderson
saw no reason why Dick shouldn't
>Sorry but I read that as you can
go up to 13000 with no oxygen in theglider as long as you don't spend more
than 30 minutes above 1.
Well I read it as meaning you can go up to 13,000 without using
oxygen, but you must have it available in the glider for use if
needed.
--Brian Wade
P
At 03:04 PM 26/08/04 +1000, you wrote:
> >
> Well
>I read it as meaning you can go up to 13,000 without using oxygen, but you
>must have it available in the glider for use if needed. --
So how do you interpret the US part 91.211 between 12500 and 14000?
Mike
Borgelt Instruments - manufact
Sec. 91.211 - Supplemental oxygen states:-
(a) General. No person may operate a civil aircraft of U.S. registry --
(1) At cabin pressure altitudes above 12,500 feet (MSL) up to and including
14,000 feet (MSL) unless the required minimum flight crew is provided with
and uses supplemental oxygen f
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