RE: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Mike Borgelt
A "mil" in the US is a thousandth of an inch, not a millimeter. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 746 358796 cellphone Int'l + 61 428 355784 Int'l + 61 429 355784 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.bo

RE: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 03:51 PM 10/11/04 +1030, you wrote: >Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: >multipart/alternative; >boundary="_=_NextPart_001_01C4C6E5.13128DE5" >Not just mix of units but fractions too. While sometimes 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 >etc can lend itself to very convenient

RE: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Kittel, Stephen W \(ETSA\)
Title: RE: [Aus-soaring] more metric Not just mix of units but fractions too. While sometimes 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 etc can lend itself to very convenient mathematical solutions (eg when doubling or halving) more often than not it doesn't. As for Peter's decimal foot system, no problem with a system

Re: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Pete Siddall
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:54:16 +1030 "Kittel, Stephen W \(ETSA\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cos when I am out in the shed doing some woodbutchering* even WITH an > electronic calculator to help me add+ it is still easier to work with > (say) 752mm than it is 2 feet 11 and 5/8 inches. So what's a

Re: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Mark Newton
skf1 wrote: I have attached a simple converter I have on my desk top. Some of you may not receive it due to firewalls and anti virus protection - it is an exe file. Google can do it too: Type "45 knots in km/h" into a google search and it'll give you the answer in no time flat. Google understands

RE: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Kittel, Stephen W \(ETSA\)
Title: RE: [Aus-soaring] more metric > -Original Message- > From: Mike Borgelt > Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] more metric > What is so great about factors of 10 anyway in an age > of electronic > calculators? Cos when I am out in the shed doing some woodbutchering* even WITH

Re: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Mark Newton
Mike Borgelt wrote: What is so great about factors of 10 anyway in an age of electronic calculators? The factors of ten aren't important. The important bit is the reproducibility of accurate measurement. With the exception of the kilogram, all SI units are derived from well-documented readily obs

Re: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Mark Newton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Providing you live life in the fast lane, divisions of a second are all 'metric' I believe, viz. milli-, nano-, femto-, etc. Important conversion factor: 1 kt = 1.852 km/h = 20.167 attoparsecs per microfortnight. - mark

RE: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 12:36 PM 10/11/04 +1050, you wrote: >> But I'm still trying to resolve in my own mind why my new >> powerboat has a speedo calibrated in MPH > >The Yanks are really weird, a speedboat nut at work (an >Aussie) always talks about his racing speeds in mph. When >asked why not knots, "It's always be

RE: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> But I'm still trying to resolve in my own mind why my new > powerboat has a speedo calibrated in MPH The Yanks are really weird, a speedboat nut at work (an Aussie) always talks about his racing speeds in mph. When asked why not knots, "It's always been like that". They also use mph in aircraft

Re: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Would'nt it be great to have a 10 hour day with a hundred > divisions (minutes) and 1000 degrees in a circle. Providing you live life in the fast lane, divisions of a second are all 'metric' I believe, viz. milli-, nano-, femto-, etc. Leigh Bunting __

[Aus-soaring] boats too!

2004-11-09 Thread sales
Oh wow! Such a database we are! On a similar thread, as Allan mentioned with his new watercraft, NSW law (and AUST, but I only have a NSW MSB licence) has us passing each other on the opposite side to all state road laws (oncoming traffic to our left hand side). When on a big river, all licenced

Re: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
I "think" aircraft initially used "local" measurements for speed and distance until they developed and could operate globally and thus the majority moved to knots & NM. Many iconic A/C from WW2 started out with MPH ASI's and ended up later with knots. My two shillings (20c) worth is with knots and

RE: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Allan Armistead
Title: RE: [Aus-soaring] more metric And while we are resolving the measuring units, how about we all go to UTC instead of working on local time. Then we wouldn't have to change all those clocks and watches and everything else with a timepiece in it twice a year. After all it's only a number

RE: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Kittel, Stephen W \(ETSA\)
Title: RE: [Aus-soaring] more metric I think it goes a _real_ long way back, Chris. Vague memories of the _Babylonians_ using a base 12 numbering system as the basis of their astrological/mathematical systems. (I am prepared to get extremely corrected on this though!) SWK   > Does an

RE: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Derek Ruddock
There was an attempt by the French to introduce a 10 hour day: >From http://www.decimaltime.hynes.net/times.html French Decimal Time >From 1793-1795 the French government officially used decimal time of day, >using analog clocks with decimal hour and minute hands. There were 10 hours in >a day,

RE: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Derek Ruddock
This from http://www.springfrog.com/converter/decimal-time.htm Why are there 60 minutes in an hour and 24 hours in a day? The fact that we have 24 hours in a day dates back to the Ancient Egyptians. The Egyyptians actually had 10 hours during the day, and developed a sundial around 1500 B.C wh

[Aus-soaring] 24 and 360

2004-11-09 Thread Michael Texler
Both numbers have a large number of divisors, otherwise I dunno 24 can be divided by 2, 3, 4, 6, 8 and 12 360 can be divided by 2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10,12,15,18,20,24,30,36,40,45,60,72,90,180 ___ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To check or change s

Re: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Nick Gilbert
The story I remember from school (whether true or false) was that these numbers were chosen because they are easily divisible: i.e. all multiples of 60 are divisible by 1,2,3,4,5,6 Once again, I'm not sure if it is true. Nick. - Original Message - From: Christopher Mc Donnell <[EMAIL

Re: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
Trite I know, but it all relates back to somebod(ies) dividing the siderial day into 24 hours and a circle into 360 degrees. Would'nt it be great to have a 10 hour day with a hundred divisions (minutes) and 1000 degrees in a circle. Politically and economically impossible though. Does any "gun"

RE: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Kittel, Stephen W \(ETSA\)
Title: RE: [Aus-soaring] more metric Agree with Mark here. It isn't that hard. For the reverse situation in Germany (me) flying their gliders with height in metres and ASI in kph was not really harder (nor easier!), just another "set" of numbers to use. Of course, German power pilots use f

RE: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Allan Armistead
Storm in a teacup, really. It's a set of units which are relevant to the activity (and have a logical basis as explained by Wombat), like my wife (radiation therapist) talks about "millions of electron volts" in treating cancer patients which mean not much to most of us but the people who need to k

Re: [Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread Mark Newton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are valid and interesting points, guys, and I stand humbly corrected with some of the detail. My point however, was not for us, but for our grandchildren. We all know how to convert and utilize the current system. It just appears alien to newcomers within Australia-the

[Aus-soaring] more metric

2004-11-09 Thread sales
They are valid and interesting points, guys, and I stand humbly corrected with some of the detail. My point however, was not for us, but for our grandchildren. We all know how to convert and utilize the current system. It just appears alien to newcomers within Australia-the upcoming pilots in ou

Re: [Aus-soaring] Schleicher announces new model

2004-11-09 Thread Rob & Colleen Moore
Nothing as good as the original H304 that will be flying at Waikerie if all goes well At 04:56 PM 9/11/2004 +1000, you wrote: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; be on the lookout for hph 304s on a competition scoresheet soon! rob see www.hph.cz

Re: [Aus-soaring] metric

2004-11-09 Thread Mike Cleaver
At 06:12 PM 9/11/2004 +1100, SDF wrote: Glider pilots insist on reporting in Kms when the aviation standard is NM. We (with my gliding hat on) are out of step with the remainder of the aviation community. Easy solution is when talking distances on MBZ/CTAF frequencies or talking to a spam can driv

[Aus-soaring] 18metre records

2004-11-09 Thread Harry Medlicott
Any reference to Beryl Hartley in relation to claims for 18M records is to be deleted from my previous information.  Please ensure that any details are forwarded to Wendy medlicott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or phone (02)43653626.  Any claim forms are to be sent to P.O. Box 541 Terrigal. 2260   We

Re: [Aus-soaring] metric

2004-11-09 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 07:32 PM 9/11/04 +1100, you wrote: >On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 18:12:39 +1100, you wrote: > >> > Its tricky, SDF, because we mainly drive, using thousands of METRES, >> at speeds in KILOMETRES. The people who follow us, rescue us, >> communicate with us (including potential future pilots) think now i

Re: [Aus-soaring] metric

2004-11-09 Thread John Giddy
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 18:12:39 +1100, you wrote: > > Its tricky, SDF, because we mainly drive, using thousands of METRES, > at speeds in KILOMETRES. The people who follow us, rescue us, > communicate with us (including potential future pilots) think now in > METRIC. Our temperatures are degrees C