Re: [Aus-soaring] F111 Bird Strike

2008-04-21 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 03:01 PM 22/04/2008, you wrote: > > Just for the record an F-111C model aircraft was brought down many > years ago be a pelican strike. The bird stuck the windscreen, they > crew were not able to activate the escape module and were lost. > > Yes and I knew the pilot. He was one of the instr

Re: [Aus-soaring] F111 Bird Strike

2008-04-21 Thread Tom van Blaricum
Seems to me that you folks are trying to out do one another when it comes to stories about close shaves with military aircraft! Just for the record an F-111C model aircraft was brought down many years ago be a pelican strike. The bird stuck the windscreen, they crew were not able to activate the

Re: [Aus-soaring] F111 Bird Strike

2008-04-21 Thread D S Baker
Now that's worrying =\ Dion On 22/04/2008, Derek Ruddock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I launched off the winch at Yorkshire Gliding Club and had 2 Panavia > Tornados pass directly underneath me… > > > > Derek > > > > > -Original Message- > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL P

Re: [Aus-soaring] F111 Bird Strike

2008-04-21 Thread Derek Ruddock
I launched off the winch at Yorkshire Gliding Club and had 2 Panavia Tornados pass directly underneath me... Derek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Catherine Conway Sent: Tuesday, 22 April 2008 1:39 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to

Re: [Aus-soaring] F111 Bird Strike

2008-04-21 Thread Catherine Conway
I got down to 900' over Callington years ago in the Boomerang and was scratching away when an Orion passed under me ! That was scary. -Cath On 21/04/2008, at 7:01 PM, JR wrote: I shared a thermal at 8,300 feet with an air force Orion!!, that was unexpected JR - Original Message -

Re: [Aus-soaring] Rules for using Flarm

2008-04-21 Thread Geoff Vincent
At 05:25 PM 21/04/2008 +0930, you wrote: > >I think common sense should be applied.  > >In unobscured air with good visibility the alarm going off >just serves to keep your eyes open and a glance at the Flarm >to ensure that no-one is in your blind spots.  See and avoid >should work quite well in

Re: [Aus-soaring] Rules for using Flarm

2008-04-21 Thread Geoff Vincent
Hi all, As far as I'm concerned, given Flarm's lack of precision in accurately pin-pointing a glider threat situation, taking avoiding action before visually seeing the threat could well make matters worse. Let's stick with the well-established "see and avoid" principle and use Flarm only to augme

Re: [Aus-soaring] F111 Bird Strike

2008-04-21 Thread Mark Newton
On 22/04/2008, at 6:56 AM, Terry Neumann wrote: > JR wrote: > >> I shared a thermal at 8,300 feet with an air force Orion!!, that was >> unexpected >> JR >> >> > I hope you were both turning in the same direction :-P I shared a thermal at 13,000' with a horse-drawn zeppelin. He wasn't turning a

Re: [Aus-soaring] F111 Bird Strike

2008-04-21 Thread Terry Neumann
JR wrote: >I shared a thermal at 8,300 feet with an air force Orion!!, that was >unexpected >JR > > I hope you were both turning in the same direction :-P Terry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: [Aus-soaring] F111 Bird Strike

2008-04-21 Thread Gus Stewart
"My student & I had a surprise to once share a thermal at Leeton at 4000' with a large hessian bag!" The tip at Leeton has sprung some very strange things in the air... I've seen quite a few plastic bags at 4,000' + , and even large bits of packaging foam. Good thermal source, but jeez sometimes i

[Aus-soaring] F111 Birdstrike

2008-04-21 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
"My student & I had a surprise to once share a thermal at Leeton at 4000' with a large hessian bag!" Was that Heidi? Is she still flying? :-) ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, vi

Re: [Aus-soaring] Rules for using Flarm

2008-04-21 Thread JR
There should never be a poor visibilty flight, we fly under VFR rules. JR - Original Message - From: "Anthony Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Rules for using Flarm > I

Re: [Aus-soaring] F111 Bird Strike

2008-04-21 Thread JR
I shared a thermal at 8,300 feet with an air force Orion!!, that was unexpected JR - Original Message - From: "Roger Browne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] F111 Bird Strike

Re: [Aus-soaring] Rules for using Flarm

2008-04-21 Thread Mike Borgelt
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Re: [Aus-soaring] Rules for using Flarm

2008-04-21 Thread Anthony Smith
I think common sense should be applied. In unobscured air with good visibility the alarm going off just serves to keep your eyes open and a glance at the Flarm to ensure that no-one is in your blind spots. See and avoid should work quite well in these situations. In the situation with poor vis

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Rules for using Flarm

2008-04-21 Thread Tom Wilksch
I see a potential problem in a busy gaggle at a comp where the Flarm can be going off almost all the time. I love it as a safety device in these circumstances, but if I had to avoid every warning I couldn't see I could never be in the thermal in the first place! Tom - Original Message ---