Re: [Aus-soaring] UK airspace incursion

Send them some winch wire and tell them what it does!  :] --- On Thu, 26/8/10, Christopher Mc Donnell wrote: From: Christopher Mc Donnell Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] UK airspace incursion To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Received: Thursday, 26 August, 2010, 3:16 PM

Re: [Aus-soaring] UK airspace incursion

Years ago I had trouble with Singapore Airforce doing beatups in all directions over Keepit. We would stop winching while and waited for them to settle down but the winch wire through post sure got a phone response - I also reminded then 4 people were killed in a GA plane hitting a winch wire in S

[Aus-soaring] the Swift has a mishap

More pictures.  Very, very lucky to not be seriously injured.   http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=2933393   ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring

Re: [Aus-soaring] UK airspace incursion

I believe that is exactly what Chris Rollings, the then National Coach, did to all known helicopter organisations several years ago. It may have helped, but certainly did not stop overflights of winch sites. In my experience here in the UK the main offenders do seem to be helicopters. Perhaps a

[Aus-soaring] Tip camera

Does anyone know of/or how to install a tip camera or anytype of camera on a Puchacz so we can make those cool videos you see on youtube? The sugestions i heard so far involve a lot of duct tape. I certainly dont want to drill a wingtip but theres a tie down hole close to the rollerwheel on the win

Re: [Aus-soaring] Tip camera

As its a puchacz you could probably get an old Bell and Howell 16mm film camera from an op shop and strap it on with the sort of webbing that the (Dads ) army uses, not as sexy as gaffer tape but more in keeping with the general design subtlety. Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:16:55 -0300 Fr

[Aus-soaring] Darling Downs weather forecast for 28 -29 August 2010 - updated

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Death of a Movement

I couldnt agree more, Ian. In addition to 'chivvying' those who have already evidenced some interest by taking a flight, lets get a bit more smart about those we pitch our market to. I have already revealed my disinterest in the treadmill of gift companies/grandpa's birthday/air experience

Re: [Aus-soaring] UK airspace infringement

Last Sunday I attended the 18m Nationals briefing at Lasham, where the Red Arrows Display with its Temporary Restricted Airspace was briefed as a no-go penalty zone. I left when the weather seemed slow to clear, and indeed they scrubbed the day and have only flown 1 day (Tuesday) with only one f

Re: [Aus-soaring] Death of a Movement

There is a club near Sydney that has become so dependent on joy rides that they have 32 listed instructors but just 125-ish flying members, no cross country or competition curriculum. They run a full time operation yet cry poor. I may be overstating it, but not by much. Is this what you’re talking

Re: [Aus-soaring] UK airspace incursion

At 10:04 PM 26/08/2010, you wrote: Send them some winch wire and tell them what it does! :] - Yes you might even convince the Helicopter Association to have the Regulator ban winching or otherwise restrict it. I have knowledge of concern about the hazard from other UK airspace users. Mike

Re: [Aus-soaring] Death of a Movement

Hi Gavin, Given that I have been trying to convince people that the schools are a major market to pitch to and at the last Avalon we based our display on START YOU AVIATION CAREER GLIDING and just not having the time to put a DVD together I would really appreciate a copy of your DVD. I wont go

Re: [Aus-soaring] Tip camera

Hi, I'm not commenting on the legalities, but I'm told GoPro camera work a treat. You can set them up to either take photos or video, and they attach via a very strong suction cup. Please don't put one near a control surface. I'm told wingtips are fine, but attaching near the tail may cause insta

[Aus-soaring] Let's ban winching, let's burn a witch....

> Yes you might even convince the Helicopter Association to have the Regulator ban winching or otherwise restrict it. I have knowledge of concern about the hazard from other UK airspace users. By reductio ad absurdum then SWER lines should be banned and restricted too (I think more chopper pilots

Re: [Aus-soaring] Tip camera

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.44188 <--- I have one of these for my model glider The video quality isn't great, but for the price and size it's quite good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pE_nqx05wQ Here's a sample from a few weeks ago, qual

Re: [Aus-soaring] Death of a Movement

I would also add a pitch to get the parents roped in. For the near to medium term we want the mums and dads - they have the disposable income and some of the skill sets we need. Getting to them through the schools works two ways: it sows the seeds in the kids (most of whom we lose again when t

Re: [Aus-soaring] Death of a Movement

What opportunity might there be to join forces with Air Force Cadets? They are a group of kids who have obviously shown a ganuine interest in aviation as a career. I believe they do get some flying exposure during their training, but I get the impression they are limited to what the RAAF can affo

[Aus-soaring] IN THE MAIL

> The September issue of Gliding International went in the mail this afternoon. > The first new format issue of the magazine.Page size and format upgraded > to read like a TIME magazine - THE FEATURE STORIES IN THE SEPTEMBER ISSUE OF GLIDING INTERNATIONAL. We thought you might like to know w

Re: [Aus-soaring] Death of a Movement

The Air Cadets regularly contact Gliding Clubs ( we have been on several occasions in the past) to ask if we can provide flying experience for their cadets. We have complied at times, but find the red tape and procedures needed to take up under 18yo potential pilots and the amount of money the

Re: [Aus-soaring] Death of a Movement

The air force cadets are already involved in gliding. I joined the cadets several years ago and took up gliding seperately after becoming frustrated at the lack of progress. Things seem to have changed, they are regularly flying out of murray bridge now. Perhaps someone involved can comment in more

Re: [Aus-soaring] Death of a Movement

The air cadets is a good spot to look for interest. Out of the six juniors regularly coming up to Bacchus Marsh at the moment, five are air cadets - and I'm an army cadet... ;-) They've actually started funding more direct flying, with about four gliding scholarships for Victoria. Best Regards Ai

Re: [Aus-soaring] Death of a Movement

The AAFC are pretty active around the Sydney area and other parts of NSW. The organisers are members of gliding clubs as well and there are courses run at Bathurst, for example and elsewhere. The result of the courses is some cadets joining clubs. NSW Gliding started a program this year giving GFA

Re: [Aus-soaring] Tip camera

The Go-Pro Hero HD is the go. We stuck one onto the tip of a glider with the supplied taped attachments and it didn't fall off (Don't expect to get the tape off too easily!). I don't have any vid uploaded to the net but the quality is amazing. Todd From: Matt

Re: [Aus-soaring] Death of a Movement

Paul, You are right. It is rather sad that the gliding club close to the largest city in Australia does not seem to convert many of its large number of its AEFs to gliding. Do they hand out pamplets or preferably videos etc.? It seems that many instructors get their flying free from the back se

Re: [Aus-soaring] Death of a Movement / Reinvigoration of a movement

Hi all, Very interested in the discussion on development of gliding to avoid the death threat in the subject. I changed it to be more positive, 'reinvigoration of a movement' like that Ian? We host a local towns cadets (Marlborough) once a year. 24 or so cadets over two days. We are w

Re: [Aus-soaring] Tip camera

One of our members attached a HD cam to the wing of Nigel’s Fox. Used tape and it had a safety string that we attached to the wheel hole. You Tube Video of aerobatic routine if you’re interested: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSkskfiMnNo Kinde

Re: [Aus-soaring] Death of a Movement

Like yourself and Paul and many others I know, I do something every week and every day to grow gliding and get more members. I happen to be a member of said Sydney Club and I talk with people actively and dont just "take their money". I know a whole bunch of people who do similar at my Club. Say w

Re: [Aus-soaring] Let's ban winching, let's burn a witch....

At 11:53 AM 27/08/2010, you wrote: > Yes you might even convince the Helicopter Association to have the Regulator ban winching or otherwise restrict it. I have knowledge of concern about the hazard from other UK airspace users. By reductio ad absurdum then SWER lines should be banned and restric

Re: [Aus-soaring] Death of a Movement

At 07:46 AM 27/08/2010, you wrote: I couldnt agree more, Ian. In addition to 'chivvying' those who have already evidenced some interest by taking a flight, lets get a bit more smart about those we pitch our market to. I have already revealed my disinterest in the treadmill of gift companies/g

Re: [Aus-soaring] Let's ban winching, let's burn a witch....

>don't jump up out of the ground to 2000 feet or more AGL at unpredictable intervals. Maybe unpredictable intervals during daylight hours, but winch launching is located at predictable well documented places (unlike many SWER lines). Refer to the charts for the location of winch launch sites. >An