Re: [Aus-soaring] overflying property ...

2012-03-25 Thread Geoff Vincent
The most intuitive and capable person I've ever met whilst flying AEFs was asked "what kind of work to you do". She replied "I train horses" and it showed in the almost natural way she handled the controls. It works both ways. Regards, Geoff V At 01:04 PM 26/03/2012, Catherine Conway wrote

Re: [Aus-soaring] overflying property ... (?Monarto International)

2012-03-25 Thread Texler, Michael
> My local Council continues to be hot-to-trot favouring an international airport within its area. The selected location has its boundary fence 500metres from my strip. That's terrible. OMG, think of all the animals at Monarto Zoo that will be scared to death!!! I hope jet proofing the animals

Re: [Aus-soaring] overflying property ...

2012-03-25 Thread emilis prelgauskas
My local Council continues to be hot-to-trot favouring an international airport within its area. The selected location has its boundary fence 500metres from my strip. Council has told the landowners just how much money they will make, and a succession of consultants have written the reports that

Re: [Aus-soaring] Riding around in a header

2012-03-25 Thread Mark Newton
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 02:41:25PM +1100, Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON wrote: > it would be a pity that the poor experiences of a few colour our > thinking about the majority of wonderful people we meet during > our adventures in the bush. Reminds me of a comment in an American forum I frequent fa

Re: [Aus-soaring] Riding around in a header

2012-03-25 Thread Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON
My experiences have been similar to Michael's, the hospitality some people turn on for their unexpected visitor has been fantastic; it would be a pity that the poor experiences of a few colour our thinking about the majority of wonderful people we meet during our adventures in the bush. SDF

[Aus-soaring] Riding around in a header

2012-03-25 Thread Texler, Michael
I remember when I did my Silver C distance in an ES59 Arrow (GNF) many moons ago. The outlanding paddock (a lovely stubble paddock, flat as a billiard table) was right next to town of Crystal Brook (galvanized iron fences were on one side of the paddock). After securing the aircraft, I walked acr

Re: [Aus-soaring] overflying property ...

2012-03-25 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
And it would be a worry if a "stud" died of a hard attack :-) BTW my daughters farrier disliked most horsey people. Good business though for him. - Original Message - From: rolf a. buelter To: aus soaring Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] overfly

Re: [Aus-soaring] overflying property ...

2012-03-25 Thread rolf a. buelter
Forgive my spelling, it was obviously a heart attack, and yes, it proved pigs can fly, albeit briefly only. Rolf > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:55:18 +1030 > From: new...@atdot.dotat.org > To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] overflying property ... > > On Mon, Mar 2

Re: [Aus-soaring] overflying property ...

2012-03-25 Thread Mark Newton
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 01:20:19PM +1100, rolf a. buelter wrote: > A glider pilot and balloonist friend of mine back in Germany drove > his hot air ballon not too high across a farm with their prized > stud pig in the yard. When he lit the burner, the pig did a flick > roll and died of a hard

Re: [Aus-soaring] overflying property ...

2012-03-25 Thread rolf a. buelter
A glider pilot and balloonist friend of mine back in Germany drove his hot air ballon not too high across a farm with their prized stud pig in the yard. When he lit the burner, the pig did a flick roll and died of a hard attack. It cost my friend dearly. Rgds - Rolf From: jar...@optusnet.com.

Re: [Aus-soaring] overflying property ...

2012-03-25 Thread Drew McKinnie
Well said Cath, too many horse owners take a hands off approach re conditioning, they are very smart and can be conditioned to all manner of loud noises, crowds, movements - even riots and police roles, noisy mines and quarries. Horses also get bored - they like activity and stimulation. gli

[Aus-soaring] OUDIE UPDATE

2012-03-25 Thread Mark Goodley
Hello all. Thought this might be of interest to those that have an OUDIE. Contact Go Soaring for shipping details. http://www.naviter.si/content/view/148/1/lang,en/ ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soarin

Re: [Aus-soaring] overflying property ...

2012-03-25 Thread Catherine Conway
All of this is a matter of conditioning for the horses. I used to take my horse gliding. Not kidding. He was great for clearing the sheep off the runway. He would stand at the launch point and watch the gliders launch and land.Then again, this horse lived in a paddock at North Glenelg al

Re: [Aus-soaring] overflying property ...

2012-03-25 Thread Peter F Bradshaw
Hi; I image that in this case we would be talking about torts. A pilot does not have to be in violation of any la or regulation to be subject to a tort (just ask anybody in business). The fact that a glider is in the air is irrelevant. On Mon, 26 Mar 2012, DMcD wrote: > Horsies and their owners

Re: [Aus-soaring] overflying property ...

2012-03-25 Thread Jarek Mosiejewski
Most dogs, including mine, are absolutely terrified by hot air balloons. has that ever been raised as an argument to stop them flying over the Melbourne suburbia? Regards Jarek > tom claffey wrote: > > Free range pigs and ostriches are a problem as well. > Tom > > > > ___

Re: [Aus-soaring] overflying property ...

2012-03-25 Thread Ron Fox
Location, location - The Dublin Gliding Club is over the fence from the Irish National Equestrian Center. The club enforced a rule of never overflying the Equestrian Center if there was an event on and not to use airbrakes in the vicinity of horses. Made for interesting approaches when it was a

Re: [Aus-soaring] overflying property ...

2012-03-25 Thread tom claffey
Free range pigs and ostriches are a problem as well. Tom From: Terry Neumann To: "Aus >> "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."" Sent: Sunday, 25 March 2012 7:35 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] overflying property ... I'm not sure what Terry's

Re: [Aus-soaring] overflying property ...

2012-03-25 Thread DMcD
Horsies and their owners are a real problem for outlandings. Around the Mt Tambourine area in QLD, you are warned never ever to land in anything other than a designated outlanding area. In the UK they suggest that if a paddock has horses in it and the next best option is flying into the side of a m

Re: [Aus-soaring] Easements in the air

2012-03-25 Thread Peter Stephenson (Internode)
Title: Untitled Document I have offered them an AEF at my expense. PeterS On 25/03/2012 7:12 AM, Tim Shirley wrote: I'm not sure what Terry's neighbour was growing...  or perhaps he is the president of the local nudist club... Perhaps som

[Aus-soaring] overflying property ...

2012-03-25 Thread Terry Neumann
I'm not sure what Terry's neighbour was growing... or perhaps he is the president of the local nudist club... OK, I had better explain the circumstances of the question regarding the right to fly over someone's property ... Firstly, he wasn't a neighbour, but a friend who lived about 20 km

Re: [Aus-soaring] Easements in the air

2012-03-25 Thread emilis prelgauskas
On 25/03/2012, at 6:42 AM, Tim Shirley wrote: A smile and a friendly explanation goes a long way, I find.  And so, I expect, would an up front apology and offer to pay for damage, if it was necessary.  I can't imagine the need for police, or lawyers.  Or documents in the glove box. Lik