I had the Outback 3.0/6 - FANTASTIC all-road/retrieval vehicle.
Peter Stephenson wrote:
How many on this list have a Subaru Forester? I know three of us have
them at my Club (Caboolture GC.)
PeterS
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Sent: Monday, 10 September 2007 1:27 PM
To: Dave
Cc: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
Dave wrote:
If you want powerful a Forrester
very good Anthony.
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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:50 PM
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> I did note tha
malvern star
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From: "Mitchell Preston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:49 PM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car: and the winner is...
> Datsun 120Y?
07 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
I have to throw in my 2 cents for the Subaru option.
I have a subie Impreza which unfortunately doesn't have quite the official
towing capacity needed for a heavy trailer (max 900kg), athough in reality it
tows quite well. When I tow
nt when it is your own children whose safety is a
> concern.
>
> Is "yeh whatever" as your way of saying of yes you're right?
>
> I knew this was a worms....
>
> Dave
>
>
>
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>
>
> al Message-
> From: Mark Newton [mailto:[EMAIL
27;Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
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Dave wrote:
> Spot the boy racer huh. I gave up worrying about dragging people
20+
> years ago.
> Thing is Mark, the more weight is a good thing for towing bringing a
> definite improv
At 09:00 AM 11/09/2007, you wrote:
>Interesting attitude. This is like saying because I drive a 1960s US
>8l V8 that gets about 25l/100k, I should pay less tax to make up for
>my expensive choice of car.
>
>Europe has moved to a tax system based on emissions - the less fuel
>burnt, the fewer emissi
a.
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
>
> Re: Fuel price in NZ.
>
> Current price of ULP in Auckland $1.59
> Current price of diesel in Auckland $1.09
>
> Consider a 1000Km trip with trailer. Fuel useage based on Cathrin
: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 8:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
Re: Fuel price in NZ.
Current price of ULP in Auckland $1.59
Current price of diesel in Auckland $1.09
Consider a 1000Km trip with trailer. Fuel useage based
n, the supposed
> translation from the rumour
> is rubbish.
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My experience with Magna's is all positiveI ran a '95 3L V 6 auto wagon
to 280,000 km over nearly ten years with no problemsok I replaced the
radiator because the plastic tanks deteriorated [just before I sold it], but
I sold it with original ancillary and air con equipment, other than the
on of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
Dave wrote:
> If you want powerful a Forrester GT has the WRX turbo motor, and enough
mass
> to have some stability.
Same power, more weight and worse fuel economy. Great. So the WRX will
blow
ralia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
You can figure out the average age of members of this list by the fact
that no one has yet suggested a car with REAL pulling power
:)
Tim
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Datsun 120Y?
On 10/09/2007, at 7:11 PM, Tim Shirley wrote:
>
> You can figure out the average age of members of this list by the fact
> that no one has yet suggested a car with REAL pulling power
>
> :)
>
> Tim
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You can figure out the average age of members of this list by the fact
that no one has yet suggested a car with REAL pulling power
:)
Tim
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
I've been watching the posts and must comment. I've towed all sorts of
trailers in many varying makes -but most recently in my 0/6 Outback. The
outback is by far the best towing vehicle I have
t;
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
>
>
> I hink cars can be somewhat idiosyncratic. I still have a '94 Magna Wagon
> which has been fantastically reliable. But then I don't tow with it :-)
>
> The Outback is a fantas
Finding a car is a balance between your essential needs and
your nice to have desires. It is a personal thing, where
everyone goes and finds their own balance.
Every new car presently on the market will have a towing
capacity. One of the factors is vehicle mass. You
certainly should not be towin
Dave wrote:
> Spot the boy racer huh. I gave up worrying about dragging people 20+
> years ago.
> Thing is Mark, the more weight is a good thing for towing bringing a
> definite improvement in stability.
Thing is, Dave, this thread has already covered a bit where it was
pointed out that the Euro
ificant percentage. Apples with apples mate!
>
> I can print you a sticker cheap if you'd like a better looking car
>
>
> Dave
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>
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>
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> Sent: Monday, 10 September 2007 12:57 PM
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Dave wrote:
> If you want powerful a Forrester GT has the WRX turbo motor, and enough
mass
> to have some stability.
Same power, more weight and worse fuel economy. Great. So the WRX will
the 95RON PULP,
though.
Dave L
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
I have a 1993 Magna wagon
_However_ dont buy a Magna, they are junk cars. This one is the most
unreliable piece of rubbish I have ever owned and I won't consider buying a
Mitsub
Nah, it's to make pushing easier when it breaks down.
On 10/09/2007, at 13:21 , Dave wrote:
>
> WRX Comes with an ironing board mounted on the boot too. Rumour has
> it that
> this type of spoiler is a substitute for having an "I am a wonker"
> sticker
> on the bumper bar
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Dave wrote:
> If you want powerful a Forrester GT has the WRX turbo motor, and enough mass
> to have some stability.
Same power, more weight and worse fuel economy. Great. So the WRX will
blow the doors off of that too!
> Of course the insurance is very expensive for turbo cars.
Yeah. Cost m
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Dave wrote:
> As mentioned a Subaru Outback or Forrester is just about ideal,
Get a
Dave wrote:
> As mentioned a Subaru Outback or Forrester is just about ideal,
Get a WRX. Same drive train as an Outback, tows like a dream, _and_ you
get to blow the doors off V8 Commodores when you drag them on the runway
:-)
- mark
007 11:17 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
Further to what Mike said.
The newer Holdens are not so good in the rear suspension area (from personal
experience).
I have a 1993 Magna wagon since new which I have used extensively. It
Conway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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My old 80 series landcruiser does a great job of towing anything.
Its turbo diesel and uses about 13 l/100km
I once drove
s distance based and purchased in multiples of
1000km. For cars this is about $30 per 1000km I think.
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From: Terry Neumann
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
G&#
pping power was huge even though
the trailers brakes don't work
Thats my experience
Todd
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G'day Richard,
Whatever you get - and there has been plenty o
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My old 80 series landcruiser does a great job of towing anything.
Its turbo diesel and uses about 13 l/100km
I once drove
gons would be better than most,
> but I
> haven't towed with one, so can't say for sure.
>
> Regards
> SWK
>
>
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ion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
At 10:31 AM 8/09/2007, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>We are new to Oz and are about to purchase a
>family car - which will need a tow bar suitable
>to tow
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
I don't know either but if the air:fuel ratio is correct on the LPG
conversion then there should be significantly lower carbon monoxide and
unburned hydrocarbon engine-out emissions. That would suggest that the
oxidation cat
7 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
G'day Richard,
Whatever you get - and there has been plenty of advice so far - look for a
vehicle with sufficient weight (and this probably means size) to able to remain
the dominant influence in the towing combination. I know of sever
"John Giddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
> Catalytic converters get hot from the exothermal reaction. Don't know
> what ha
Catalytic converters get hot from the exothermal reaction. Don't know
what happens with LPG conversion though.
John G.
Richard Gynes wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks to all who replied on and off list.
>
> The budget for the family car is flexible - what does not go on the car goes
> towards the glider
Hi,
Thanks to all who replied on and off list.
The budget for the family car is flexible - what does not go on the car goes
towards the glider +/or caravan. Or more expensive car means enforced
cheaper glider/syndicate. So it is probably a used vehicle in question.
Do catalytic converters get ho
G'day Richard,
Whatever you get - and there has been plenty of advice so far - look
for a vehicle with sufficient weight (and this probably means size) to
able to remain the dominant influence in the towing combination. I know
of several road dramas with gliding trailers where the towing car
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Subject: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
Hi,
We are new to Oz and are about to purchase a family car - which will need a
tow bar suitable to tow a single seat glider trailer (glider yet to be
purchased).
Any recommendations for good tow vehicles and gotchas to be
Another thought. Peugeot 405SRDT or 406Hdi diesel. Masses of towing
torque, low fuel consumption, very comfortable for long distance
driving. Quite a few for sale second hand. If new, the 407 Hdi in sedan
or wagon. Also Mike's comments re VW diesels.
Cheers
Graeme
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At 10:31 AM 8/09/2007, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>We are new to Oz and are about to purchase a
>family car which will need a tow bar suitable
>to tow a single seat glider trailer (glider yet to be purchased).
>
>Any recommendations for good tow vehicles and gotchas to be aware of?
>
>What weight does t
ssan Pulsar 1.6 litre with no problems. I'll be interested to see the
replies
Cheers
Tom W
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From: Richard Gynes
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 10:01 AM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
Hi,
We a
Family Tow CarFord V8 maybe, but the sixes have a little problem with head
gaskets.
JR
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From: opsworx
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
Peter Heath
- Original Message -
From: Richard Gynes
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 10:31 AM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
Hi,
We are new to Oz and are about to purchase a family car - which will need a
tow bar suitab
I am not in any way associated with GMH ).
regards JR
- Original Message -
From: Richard Gynes
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 10:01 AM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] Family Tow Car
Hi,
We are new to Oz and are about to purchase a f
Hi,
We are new to Oz and are about to purchase a family car which will need a
tow bar suitable to tow a single seat glider trailer (glider yet to be
purchased).
Any recommendations for good tow vehicles and gotchas to be aware of?
What weight does the car need to be able to tow all up for a
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