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Not on the bottle I have
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Recommended dose is 1.5g per day.
Dave L
>Try glucosamine. Works for my knees
>Te tablets are easier to deal with than the powder
?Look for the 1000mg tabs: once a day
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> Ahh Graeme you win this round,
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> Yes i'm still yet to get old and obviously more experience needed.
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> One questio
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>From: "Ben Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Age doesn't relate to experience. Its a common furfy old people have 8-)
Yes it does. I've been your age. You'v
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> From:Graeme Cant
> The US Air Force explored the 'unspinnable' K21's spinning
> behaviour extensively (at their Test Pilots' School IIRC) and
> this ended with two experienced test pilot's deaths.
Graham,
can you give a reference to this statement.
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> From:Graeme Cant
> You might like to read the article by Bob Grimstead (a power
> pilot, I know, but smarter on spins than most glider pilots
> in Australia, I suspect) in Australian Aviation of April 2006
> called "In a Spin". It relates his experiences spin
From: Christopher Mc Donnell
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 2:28 PM
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spin...
"I like my instructors to have grey hair "
Or be bald
Both c
Spins are Fun - aerobatics are fun - we used to practice spins, recovering
to a pre-nominated heading during
the second turn, and during my initial instruction we would practice a
manoeuvre we called the Falling Leaf" where
we would incipient left and right one after the other like a falling a
of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
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Many years ago (in my early flight service career) we were hearing about this
guy south of Halls Creek
who was mustering
case GFA got it right.
regards JR
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x27;t relate to experience. Its a common furfy old people have 8-)
Ben
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x27;t relate to experience. Its a common furfy old people have 8-)
Ben
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, 2007 3:48 PM
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Touchy - gender is not relevant - BUT age does = experience in most cases. I
like my instructors to have grey hair J .
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Overall point of the comment taken, but I missed the relevance of the age
and gender of the power instructor.
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le believe
their instructors therefore it becomes
fact.
SDF
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Dave Lawley.
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Funny, my
MessageSame with feminine records too I suppose :-)
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Overall
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While I stop short of saying "spins are fun" I'm very pleased to have
been taught spins and recovery as part of my gliding training. If only
to underline the fact that I don'
: Monday, 12 February 2007 3:36 PM
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While I stop short of saying "spins are fun" I'm very pleased to have
been taught spins and recovery as par
MessageWhile I stop short of saying "spins are fun" I'm very pleased to have
been taught spins and recovery as part of my gliding training. If only to
underline the fact that I don't want to put myself in a situation where I
accidentally happen upon one.
I was really surprised when I subsequently
is
spins are fun :-)
SDF
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I don't think its a bad idea to intentio
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I don't think its a bad idea to intentionally spin a glider providing it is
rated for them - doesn't hurt to know under controlled circumstances what it's
habits are.
This
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Well what would
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Does anyone know of a Polish glider that wont spin?
Nick.
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Does anyone know of a Polish glider that wont spin?
Nick.
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I flew several hundred hours in a club owned Pirat, from 1975 to 83.
There were two others based in the vicinity and I
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I flew several hundred hours in a club owned Pirat, from 1975 to 83.
There were two others based in the vicinity and I have a photo somewhere of the
3 of t
er, but it was a
big contrast after flying the Pirat to climb into a K6. In comparison that was
delightful to fly.
RKM
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SZD 30 = Polish?? I rigged one and definitely a three person job. Didn't
spin, not my club. GH
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Yes, Polish.
The previously communist government of East Germany ran gliding (and
other) "clubs" in a different way to how we westerners expect them to be
run. Their gliders were mostly from other eastern bloc countries (ie
usually from the SZD stable).
At reunification all the gliders (and Wilga
SZD 30 = Polish?? I rigged one and definitely a three person job. Didn't spin,
not my club. GH
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http://toohardtodo.blogspot.com/2004/0
SWK
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I had an opportunity to fly a Pirat (SZD 30) around '94, at Wellington Club NZ.
What a delightful glider it was.
Just for the record the type first flew it '66. More details
http://www.sailplanedirectory.com/PlaneDetails.cfm?PlaneID=350
BTW I think there may be one for sale at Central Queensl
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