Re: [Aus-soaring] thoughts on aerotowing - the future - be pro-active!

2008-11-05 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 04:31 PM 4/11/2008, you wrote: Fact: there is change and new development happening. Yes, it is wise to be cautious - but don't be so negative! I'm not being negative. I worry when magical thinking is substituted for rational analysis. Fact: Ultralights / Microlights / Recreational pla

Re: [Aus-soaring] thoughts on aerotowing - the future - be pro-active!

2008-11-03 Thread erich wittstock
Fact: there is change and new development happening. Yes, it is wise to be cautious - but don't be so negative! Fact: Ultralights / Microlights / Recreational planes are being developed and utilised for glider towing (already overseas, OZ will follow). Fact: development doesn't stop - someone might

Re: [Aus-soaring] thoughts on aerotowing - the future - be pro-active!

2008-11-03 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 06:56 PM 3/11/2008, you wrote: Looks like I skimped on 10 kilos there. I instruct in the Jabiru 170C and had a go in the Jabiru 160. Both are 4 cylinder, 80hp on the paper - not ok for towing; speeds / Vs are a definite issue. We'll get a Jabiru 230 soon. The 230 is already approved for to

Re: [Aus-soaring] thoughts on aerotowing - the future - be pro-active!

2008-11-03 Thread Catherine Conway
I was in an ASH25E which winch launched with the engine running off a short strip in Germany. -Cath On 03/11/2008, at 9:39 PM, Jim Staniforth wrote: Hallooo: On days when the airport was too busy to allow self-launching (Back taxi glider runway, use full length of the power runway. Aer

Re: [Aus-soaring] thoughts on aerotowing - the future - be pro-active!

2008-11-03 Thread erich wittstock
Awesome Jim! McPhee - when are we launching? ;-) Erich On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Jim Staniforth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Hallooo: > On days when the airport was too busy to allow self-launching (Back taxi > glider runway, use full length of the power runway. Aerotow start line is > m

Re: [Aus-soaring] thoughts on aerotowing - the future - be pro-active!

2008-11-03 Thread Jim Staniforth
Hallooo:   On days when the airport was too busy to allow self-launching (Back taxi glider runway, use full length of the power runway. Aerotow start line is mid field of the glider runway and gliders land short of that) I have aerotowed the AS-H26E with the engine running behind a Pawnee. Just

Re: [Aus-soaring] thoughts on aerotowing - the future - be pro-active!

2008-11-03 Thread Ian Mc Phee
Erich and others I recently got an email from Ken Flower who has regularly been flying motorglider launches in South Africa (RSA) from sites at 6500ft AMSL and talked about towplane launches of motorgliders and turbos He mentioned that at some sites *"You must"* take an aero assisted launches for

Re: [Aus-soaring] thoughts on aerotowing - the future - be pro-active!

2008-11-03 Thread erich wittstock
Looks like I skimped on 10 kilos there. I instruct in the Jabiru 170C and had a go in the Jabiru 160. Both are 4 cylinder, 80hp on the paper - not ok for towing; speeds / Vs are a definite issue. We'll get a Jabiru 230 soon. The 230 is already approved for towing. In theory it is very comparable t

Re: [Aus-soaring] thoughts on aerotowing - the future - be pro-active!

2008-11-03 Thread Al Borowski
Hi Erich, RAA are actually trying for 760kg because that permits quite a few more 2-seat GA aircraft. According to the RAA, there is no reason why you couldn't register a touring motorglider (ie with a fixed engine) with them. The MTOW of a super dimona is 770kg - so you'd only lose 10 kilos if y

Re: [Aus-soaring] thoughts on aerotowing - the future - be pro-active!

2008-11-02 Thread JR
us-soaring] thoughts on aerotowing - the future - be pro-active! hello everyone, Glaser Dirks already got it approved: Aero-towing of sutainers with motor gliders. (I call gliders that can't launch but can get home on their own account a sustainer. Jets are already available from the m

[Aus-soaring] thoughts on aerotowing - the future - be pro-active!

2008-11-02 Thread erich wittstock
hello everyone, Glaser Dirks already got it approved: Aero-towing of sutainers with motor gliders. (I call gliders that can't launch but can get home on their own account a sustainer. Jets are already available from the manufacturer (no need to re-invent the wheel). Turbo's will be seen in the not