Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-08-13 Thread Paul Julian
Equals pretty much anything they want Paul On 14 Aug 2018, at 2:59 pm, Chris Ford wrote: >> I hate to be the ones COMPLIMENTING the Gumbyment, but it's nowhere near >> as bad as I thought they were going to make it. It looks like they've >> actually >> spoken to some people who udnerstand

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-08-13 Thread Chris Ford
> I hate to be the ones COMPLIMENTING the Gumbyment, but it's nowhere near > as bad as I thought they were going to make it. It looks like they've actually > spoken to some people who udnerstand crypto. Read the new Section 317E Listed Acts or Things (page 16 of the exposure draft). It lists

[AusNOG] IINET MTA - Customer Blocked

2018-08-13 Thread Cameron Murray
Guys, Any IINET MTA onlist? We have a customers site who is unable to access pop.netspace.net.au on 110 tia ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-08-13 Thread Mark Delany
> Force a developer to modify the app Most app developers are not under Australian jurisdictions. Especially so for app developers who specialize in dark-web comms. With 20+ million programmers out there, it's not that hard to find someone to develop an app that is immune to Australian

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-08-13 Thread Alex Samad
I'm sure nothing could go wrong there... A On 14 August 2018 at 14:11, Mark Andrews wrote: > A quick reading of the exposure bill would allow for a scenario like this: > > Force a developer to modify the app to send a encrypted copy of the > traffic to > a given address and to issue a new

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-08-13 Thread Mark Andrews
A quick reading of the exposure bill would allow for a scenario like this: Force a developer to modify the app to send a encrypted copy of the traffic to a given address and to issue a new version triggering a “update available” notification. Force the store to return the modified version of

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-08-13 Thread Paul Julian
I think it’s easy to read this, just re-read the bollocks that we have already had to comply with and it should match pretty close. The summary I get from it is that they can’t access encrypted stuff now so they want everybody to make it so they can, but they can’t say that they will force

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-08-13 Thread Robert Hudson
My reading isn't as positive. tl;dr - it's too vague and open to intepretation. >From the Explanatory Document ( https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/consultations/Documents/explanatory-document.pdf ): " Allow the Attorney-General to issue a technical capability notice, requiring a designated

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-08-13 Thread Rob Thomas
I hate to be the ones COMPLIMENTING the Gumbyment, but it's nowhere near as bad as I thought they were going to make it. It looks like they've actually spoken to some people who udnerstand crypto. The important bits seem to be on Pages 8 and 9 here -

[AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-08-13 Thread I
https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/about/consultations/assistance-and-access-bill-2018 ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog

Re: [AusNOG] Strange NBN reports from Baldivis area (WA)

2018-08-13 Thread Mark Newton
Only if you use lemon-scented fabric softener. - mark > On 13 Aug 2018, at 10:32 pm, Tom Storey wrote: > > The ironing is delicious. > >> On 1 August 2018 at 01:36, Mark Newton wrote: >> I’m almost delighted to see Telstra experiencing the same frustrating issues >> with wholesalers

Re: [AusNOG] Strange NBN reports from Baldivis area (WA)

2018-08-13 Thread Tom Storey
The ironing is delicious. On 1 August 2018 at 01:36, Mark Newton wrote: > I’m almost delighted to see Telstra experiencing the same frustrating > issues with wholesalers that everyone else has been forced to deal with for > the last 20 years :D > > - mark

Re: [AusNOG] ATS recommendation

2018-08-13 Thread Bradley Amm
Would my DC provider (NextDC) have any issues with me using the ATS linked above. Trying to get our provider supply dual power supply NTU is becoming a hassle. On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe IT) < r...@latrobeit.com.au> wrote: > Thanks for that > I’m thinking faulty unit > >

Re: [AusNOG] ATS recommendation

2018-08-13 Thread Rhys Cuff (Latrobe IT)
Thanks for that I'm thinking faulty unit Sent from my iPhone On 13 Aug 2018, at 5:51 pm, Brad Peczka mailto:b...@bradpeczka.com>> wrote: I run a fleet of the APC ATSes - some of which are coming on 10 years service - with no noted issues beyond some caveats in the firmware update process.

Re: [AusNOG] ATS recommendation

2018-08-13 Thread Brad Peczka
I run a fleet of the APC ATSes - some of which are coming on 10 years service - with no noted issues beyond some caveats in the firmware update process. In the absence of details on the error the UPSes threw, the original issue sounds like a faulty device. Eaton are a good alternative but

Re: [AusNOG] ATS recommendation

2018-08-13 Thread Nicholas Hobbs
Hi Rhys, We run a number (~6 or so) of the APC ATS' for some of our critical (but only 1 PSU) gear with no issues. We did however have one that was faulty from new that switched between A feeds a bit randomly and was replaced because there was no reason it should have been switching. Have you

Re: [AusNOG] ATS recommendation

2018-08-13 Thread Tim Price
We've got several of these running with no issues for the last few years. https://cdlnz.com/RP-ATS Sounds like you've had a run of bad luck with yours. Sent from my iPhone > On 13/08/2018, at 6:22 PM, Joseph Goldman wrote: > > Kind of defeats the purpose, as that re-introduces single power

Re: [AusNOG] ATS recommendation

2018-08-13 Thread Joseph Goldman
Kind of defeats the purpose, as that re-introduces single power feed loss - the idea of the ATS (im guessing on Rhys' behalf) was to make a single PSU device 'dual power' by means of having it powered off dual feeds. Kind Regards, Joseph Goldman APCS_Logo Joseph Goldman | Network Manager /