Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-02 Thread Chris Ford
 Paul, > I think we can envisage that the proposed regime could be made to work by > issuing content providers > with Technical Capability Notices that would require the content provider to > create asecure channel for > access to the clear text, similar to how secure OOB can be enabled for

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-02 Thread trs80
On Mon, 3 Sep 2018, Chad Kelly wrote: > On 9/3/2018 12:00 PM, ausnog-requ...@lists.ausnog.net wrote: > > > The government is going to be able to enforce the Assistance and Access > > Bill, because to operate a business in Australia, requires a local > > presence. Your trade marks and

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-02 Thread Chad Kelly
On 9/3/2018 12:00 PM, ausnog-requ...@lists.ausnog.net wrote: The government is going to be able to enforce the Assistance and Access Bill, because to operate a business in Australia, requires a local presence. Your trade marks and intellectual property need recognition, and you require a

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-02 Thread trs80
On Mon, 3 Sep 2018, Paul Wilkins wrote: > "Sure they will be able to enforce it against others, but their whole > argument for these laws is to go after those actors when it is manifestly > ineffective for that." > > Yes, and no. There's actors, and then there's their actions. There's 2 >

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-02 Thread Chris Ford
Paul, I agree with you in general as to the point that if we are happy with the premise of the current TIA Act that LEAs should be able to intercept communications with a duly authorised warrant, then extending that to encrypted services seems a reasonable extension to keep up with

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-02 Thread Paul Wilkins
Bradley, The Common Law has always allowed judicial scrutiny of our privacy. There's always been the right for judicial search warrants to override what's considered one's private domain. I'm supportive of this bill where it extends judicial oversite to the cyber domain, which is a gap that exists

Re: [AusNOG] ISOC event on encryption etc Canberra Monday

2018-09-02 Thread Christian Heinrich
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Christian Heinrich wrote: > https://livestream.com/internetsociety/aussiesencrypt Also https://twitter.com/isocny/status/1032276275690258432 and https://youtu.be/kn8Baq2paEk and https://www.facebook.com/InternetSociety/videos/275405293068989/ The only point I

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-02 Thread Bradley Silverman
So for the sake of catching someone doing something illegal online, we should allow police the right to see everything we do online? Well for the sake of the road toll, they should low jack all of our cars and know what they are doing at all times. For the sake of muggings, we should all have GPS

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-02 Thread Paul Wilkins
"Sure they will be able to enforce it against others, but their whole argument for these laws is to go after those actors when it is manifestly ineffective for that." Yes, and no. There's actors, and then there's their actions. There's 2 different sorts of traffic on the internet that law

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-09-02 Thread trs80
On Sun, 2 Sep 2018, Paul Wilkins wrote: > The government is going to be able to enforce the Assistance and Access Bill, > because to operate a business in Australia, > requires a local presence. Your trade marks and intellectual property need > recognition, and you require a registered company

[AusNOG] Shirts

2018-09-02 Thread Brad Peczka
Hi Folks, If there was anyone at the conference who picked up a Medium sized shirt, and would prefer a Large instead, I'm up for a trade. Email me off list to arrange. Cheers, -Brad. ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net