Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)

2018-05-15 Thread Mark Andrews
cDonald Richards > <mcdonald.richa...@gmail.com> > Cc: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke) > > A beancounter must have realised they had lots of unused Australia -> US > capacity and decided they wanted to make some profit from it. >

Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)

2018-05-15 Thread Pieter Berkel
nald Richards < > mcdonald.richa...@gmail.com> > Cc: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke) > > A beancounter must have realised they had lots of unused Australia -> US > capacity and decided they wanted to make some profit from it. > &

Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)

2018-05-15 Thread Benoit Page-Guitard
> Original message > From: Nick Stallman <n...@agentpoint.com> > Date: 16/5/18 7:32 am (GMT+08:00) > To: Pieter Berkel <pieter.ber...@gmail.com>, McDonald Richards < > mcdonald.richa...@gmail.com> > Cc: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net > Subject: Re: [Au

Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)

2018-05-15 Thread Matt Richards
I requested a direct BGP session with HE and they had it configured in under 10 minutes, received a *lot* more prefixes than from the Equinix RS but it hasn't fixed the problem. I've also set my Vocus transit to no-export to HE, but I suspect this will just push it on to my other transit (TPG

Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)

2018-05-15 Thread Bradley Amm
gmail.com>, McDonald Richards < mcdonald.richa...@gmail.com> Cc: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke) A beancounter must have realised they had lots of unused Australia -> US capacity and decided they wanted to make some profit from it. On 16/05/18 09:29, Piete

Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)

2018-05-15 Thread Nick Stallman
A beancounter must have realised they had lots of unused Australia -> US capacity and decided they wanted to make some profit from it. On 16/05/18 09:29, Pieter Berkel wrote: Fair -- but where does "bits we both end up paying for" fit into that spectrum? On 16 May 2018 at 09:25, McDonald

Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)

2018-05-15 Thread Pieter Berkel
Fair -- but where does "bits we both end up paying for" fit into that spectrum? On 16 May 2018 at 09:25, McDonald Richards wrote: > standard route policy: bits you pay me for > bits I get for free > bits I > pay for. > > On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Pieter

Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)

2018-05-15 Thread McDonald Richards
standard route policy: bits you pay me for > bits I get for free > bits I pay for. On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Pieter Berkel wrote: > Matt and Gavin are right: this asymmetric routing seems to only impacts > providers that buy transit from HE in SJC (TPG and Vocus

Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)

2018-05-15 Thread Pieter Berkel
Matt and Gavin are right: this asymmetric routing seems to only impacts providers that buy transit from HE in SJC (TPG and Vocus being the two main ones I've noticed). It would appear from the below post that HE policy is to preference transit over peering links (presuming that AS paths for both

Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)

2018-05-15 Thread Dave Browning
All good if on MegaIX SYD Tracing route to tserv1.syd1.he.net [216.218.142.50] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms vl666.cr01.b1.bne.qld.au.sentrian.net.au [103.226.9.138] 215 ms16 ms14 ms vl3.cr01.s1.syd.nsw.au.sentrian.net.au [103.226.9.245] 313 ms

Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)

2018-05-15 Thread Matt Richards
That's not congestion at the IX, that's HE.net routing traffic back to you (and me) via California. They're prefering my Vocus transit in SJC over the shorter AS path in Sydney. Try doing a traceroute from their Sydney router on http://lg.he.net Matt. On 16/05/2018 10:46 AM, Edwin

Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)

2018-05-15 Thread Edwin Groothuis
>From Internode there seems to be congestion at the exchange point: traceroute to tserv1.syd1.he.net (216.218.142.50), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets 1 192.168.129.1 (192.168.129.1) 2.043 ms 2.373 ms 1.887 ms 2 lo0.bras1.syd2.on.ii.net (150.101.32.61) 30.334 ms 31.081 ms 30.884 ms 3

Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)

2018-05-15 Thread Scott Howard
Based on a traceroute from my Comcast connection in the San Jose area, it's definitely located in Sydney. Looks to me like the path back from HE to you is going via the US. 10ge5-10.core1.sjc2.he.net 0.0%14 15.9 16.4 15.6 20.4 1.1 9. 10ge4-4.core1.sjc1.he.net

Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)

2018-05-15 Thread Gavin Tweedie
TPG buys transit from HE /in the US/ so routing via the US is expected, twice. TPG SYD -> TPG SJC -> HE SJC -> HE SYD -> HE SJC -> TPG SJC -> TPG SYD Yours looks like it's staying in Sydney on the way there, and coming back via the US I agree.. You don't have any indications in your traceroute

Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)

2018-05-15 Thread Chris
Hi, On 15/05/2018 4:06 PM, Christopher Hawker wrote: Hi All, I've seen that HE now supposedly run a IPv6 Tunnel Server in Sydney, although I have doubts as to it's location after a few traceroutes. This is from SY4 via NSW-IX: The traffic being sent to the destination looks correct, but

[AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)

2018-05-15 Thread Christopher Hawker
Hi All, I've seen that HE now supposedly run a IPv6 Tunnel Server in Sydney, although I have doubts as to it's location after a few traceroutes. This is from SY4 via NSW-IX: default.master@cr1:~$ traceroute 216.218.142.50 traceroute to 216.218.142.50 (216.218.142.50), 30 hops max, 38 byte