Re: [AusNOG] NBN as an end to end solution - Failure or, Success?

2019-01-25 Thread Tony Wicks
>NZ is a tiny country compared to Australia so doing Fiber throughout the >country would of been a lot cheaper, This is a very poor argument. NZ is way physically smaller so yes backhaul between cities takes more resource. However Australia has much bigger cities with bigger population densiti

Re: [AusNOG] NBN as an end to end solution - Failure or Success?

2019-01-25 Thread Jason Leschnik
e doing a good job with a sh&t set of policies.” > > > > Kind regards, > > Bryan > > > > > > *From:* AusNOG *On Behalf Of *Jason > Leschnik > *Sent:* Thursday, 24 January 2019 2:04 PM > *To:* AUSNOG > *Subject:* [AusNOG] NBN as an end to end s

Re: [AusNOG] NBN as an end to end solution - Failure or, Success?

2019-01-25 Thread Chad Kelly
On 1/26/2019 12:00 PM, ausnog-requ...@lists.ausnog.net wrote: NBN ws a classic case of a race horse designed by a committee (you get a 3 legged camel) and noses in the trough. It?s now here and a growing a number of customers are resisting moving across but under the rules once in an area you ha

Re: [AusNOG] NBN as an end to end solution - Failure or Success?

2019-01-25 Thread Chris Hurley
27;Reilly Date: Thursday, 24 January 2019 at 4:44 pm To: 'Jason Leschnik' , "ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN as an end to end solution - Failure or Success? As a telco mentor of mine said (no names as he¹s on this list) ³NBN co are doing a good job with a sh

Re: [AusNOG] NBN as an end to end solution - Failure or Success?

2019-01-23 Thread Bryan O'Reilly
As a telco mentor of mine said (no names as he’s on this list) “NBN co are doing a good job with a sh&t set of policies.” Kind regards, Bryan From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Jason Leschnik Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2019 2:04 PM To: AUSNOG Subject: [AusNOG] NBN as an end to end solu

Re: [AusNOG] NBN as an end to end solution - Failure or Success?

2019-01-23 Thread Noel Butler
On 24/01/2019 13:20, Jason Leschnik wrote: > Hi Mark, > > I considered posting it there but I decided to post to AusNOG instead as I > think WP is most of the time biased with Not to mention its run by paranoid power tripping fools who ban you just for kicks, but what do you expect when the re

Re: [AusNOG] NBN as an end to end solution - Failure or Success?

2019-01-23 Thread Mark Smith
On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 14:20, Jason Leschnik wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > I considered posting it there but I decided to post to AusNOG instead as I > think WP is most of the time biased with Customer complaints instead of > seeing the NBN as a technical end-end solution. > To do the sort of analysi

Re: [AusNOG] NBN as an end to end solution - Failure or Success?

2019-01-23 Thread Jason Leschnik
Hi Mark, I considered posting it there but I decided to post to AusNOG instead as I think WP is most of the time biased with Customer complaints instead of seeing the NBN as a technical end-end solution. @Nathan.Ridge - I appreciate the reply and information. On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 14:11, Mark S

Re: [AusNOG] NBN as an end to end solution - Failure or Success?

2019-01-23 Thread Mark Smith
A topic for discussion on Whirlpool. On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 14:05, Jason Leschnik wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm just trying to get myself a little bit better informed about NBN as an > end to end solution. I see a lot of angst out in the community about the > different access types (FTTx) and the

[AusNOG] NBN as an end to end solution - Failure or Success?

2019-01-23 Thread Jason Leschnik
Hi all, I'm just trying to get myself a little bit better informed about NBN as an end to end solution. I see a lot of angst out in the community about the different access types (FTTx) and the remaining aging Copper portion of the network and how far behind we are. I also see people happy with th