Re: [AusNOG] NBN to offshore NOC?

2023-03-16 Thread Matthew Moyle-Croft
Can someone print that and show NBN next time they claim their purpose above all else is to "deliver an investment grade return" when they argue about price/reliability/competition/etc? On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 10:59 AM John Edwards wrote: > NBN's purpose is to lift the digital capability of Aust

Re: [AusNOG] NBN to offshore NOC?

2023-03-16 Thread John Edwards
NBN's purpose is to lift the digital capability of Australia. https://www.nbnco.com.au/corporate-information/about-nbn-co/our-purpose The takeaway from offshoring activities is that the Australian government does not consider Network Operations to be a digital capability. John On Fri, 17 Mar

Re: [AusNOG] NBN to offshore NOC?

2023-03-16 Thread Matthew Moyle-Croft
Saving money on one thing can cost a LOT in other ways. The large siloed organisation run by accountants story. On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 10:10 PM Luke Thompson wrote: > I'm with you on follow the sun, much like iiNet & Co. did back in the day > (very effectively, almost a work of art it was so go

Re: [AusNOG] NBN to offshore NOC?

2023-03-16 Thread Luke Thompson
I'm with you on follow the sun, much like iiNet & Co. did back in the day (very effectively, almost a work of art it was so good) with some functions. In the context of a national network though, much as with Telstra the people are its greatest asset - and while it can be nightmarish landing th

Re: [AusNOG] NBN to offshore NOC?

2023-03-16 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 16/3/23 4:06 pm, Luke Thompson wrote: NOC offshoring is nightmare territory - depending on how it's done. The national broadband network ought to be just that. I'll mostly agree with that. Pure NOC offshoring isn't great. Splitting a NOC into two or three sites for follow-the-sun coverage

Re: [AusNOG] NBN to offshore NOC?

2023-03-15 Thread Luke Thompson
I'm fairly sure field techs have to ring through to an offshore team for fibre splice checking / approvals already. So they have some crews overseas now for several years (unless this has since been onshored, though I'm doubtful). Many techs have remarked about how long the queue can be to spe

[AusNOG] NBN to offshore NOC?

2023-03-15 Thread Ben Colt
Talk today about this happening. It would be disaster for jobs and technology support if it happened. Australia the dumb country? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/