Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (was Re: AUSNOG)

2019-01-29 Thread Mehmet Akcin
>> On Fri, 4 Jan 2019, Brad Peczka wrote: >> >> Not entirely. >> >> I think the Trident cable has been cancelled (Paul?), and Australia West >> Express appears to be little more than a website and >> some press releases. >> >> Happy to be

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (was Re: AUSNOG)

2019-01-28 Thread David Hughes
; Cc: <mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> <mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (was Re: AUSNOG) On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 04:22, Peter Tonoli <mailto:peter+aus...@metaverse.org> wrote: Happy new year. At the risk of resurrecting an old thread, I saw

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (was Re: AUSNOG)

2019-01-28 Thread Mehmet Akcin
other > systems is currently somewhat diminished. > > > Regards, > > -Brad. > > > From: AusNOG > On Behalf Of Jonathan Brewer > Sent: Friday, 4 January 2019 5:28 PM > To: Peter Tonoli > Cc: > > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (was Re:

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (was Re: AUSNOG)

2019-01-06 Thread Paul Brooks
MW3 being 50/50 depending on the phase of the moon), the need for the >>>> other systems is currently somewhat diminished. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> -Brad. >>>> >>>> >>>> From: AusNO

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (was Re: AUSNOG)

2019-01-04 Thread James Andrewartha
> >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> -Brad. > >> > >> > >> From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Jonathan Brewer > >> Sent: Friday, 4 January 2019 5:28 PM > >> To: Peter Tonoli > >> Cc: > >> Subject: Re: [AusNOG]

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (was Re: AUSNOG)

2019-01-04 Thread Matt McDonough
rrently somewhat diminished. >> >> >> Regards, >> >> -Brad. >> >> >> From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Jonathan Brewer >> Sent: Friday, 4 January 2019 5:28 PM >> To: Peter Tonoli >> Cc: >> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (was

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (was Re: AUSNOG)

2019-01-04 Thread James Andrewartha
need for the other > systems is currently somewhat diminished. >   > > Regards, > > -Brad. >   > > From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Jonathan Brewer > Sent: Friday, 4 January 2019 5:28 PM > To: Peter Tonoli > Cc: > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (was Re: AUSN

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (was Re: AUSNOG)

2019-01-04 Thread Brad Peczka
being 50/50 depending on the phase of the moon), the need for the other systems is currently somewhat diminished. Regards, -Brad. From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Jonathan Brewer Sent: Friday, 4 January 2019 5:28 PM To: Peter Tonoli Cc: Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (was Re: AUSNOG) On Fri, 4

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (was Re: AUSNOG)

2019-01-04 Thread Cameron Murray
Shame Brisbane doesn't On Fri, 4 Jan. 2019, 7:29 pm Jonathan Brewer > On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 04:22, Peter Tonoli > wrote: > >> Happy new year. At the risk of resurrecting an old thread, I saw the >> Hurricane Electric has a pretty impressive atlas of their operations >> https://he.net/3d-map/ ..

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (was Re: AUSNOG)

2019-01-04 Thread Jonathan Brewer
On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 04:22, Peter Tonoli wrote: > Happy new year. At the risk of resurrecting an old thread, I saw the > Hurricane Electric has a pretty impressive atlas of their operations > https://he.net/3d-map/ .. > So cool that Perth has six submarine cables now! __

[AusNOG] Network Atlas (was Re: AUSNOG)

2019-01-03 Thread Peter Tonoli
Happy new year. At the risk of resurrecting an old thread, I saw the Hurricane Electric has a pretty impressive atlas of their operations https://he.net/3d-map/ .. Cheers, Peter. On 7/11/18 03:59, Mehmet Akcin wrote: > Hello everyone, > > We wanted to share several updates about our project Netwo

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-12-02 Thread Mehmet Akcin
I am more than happy to move on. I do not want to however leave those who have taken their times to ask questions, I think that would be rude, since there are no further questions, I won't need to carry on. On Sun, Dec 2, 2018 at 3:41 PM David Hughes wrote: > > There’s been quite a lot of traffi

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-12-02 Thread David Hughes
There’s been quite a lot of traffic on this mailing list over the past few weeks about your request for information. I’m sure anyone who wants to contribute their data to your project now has your contact details and will contact you should they wish to do so. Let’s move on please. David …

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-12-02 Thread simon thomason
trepreneurial powers for good in the future. > > Best wishes. > Ross Marston > > > From: Mehmet Akcin > Date: Monday, 3 December 2018 at 7:21 am > To: Ross Marston > Cc: "" > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help) > > hi Ross, > >

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-12-02 Thread Mehmet Akcin
owever appreciate the explanation, and I for one hope you find a way > to use your entrepreneurial powers for good in the future. > > Best wishes. > Ross Marston > > > From: Mehmet Akcin > Date: Monday, 3 December 2018 at 7:21 am > To: Ross Marston > Cc: ""

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-12-02 Thread Ross Marston
December 2018 at 7:21 am To: Ross Marston Cc: "" Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help) hi Ross, thank you for your message.  As we have explained in our website , http://www.networkatlas.org -- Network Atlas is a crowd-sourced near real-time map of the global Internet infr

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-12-02 Thread Mehmet Akcin
hi Ross, thank you for your message. As we have explained in our website , www.networkatlas.org -- Network Atlas is a crowd-sourced near real-time map of the global Internet infrastructure detailing the world's submarine and terrestrial networks in real time. I am not claiming we are network plan

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-12-01 Thread Ross Marston
Hi Mehmet, I must admit I am at somewhat of a loss to see the benefit of this product to anyone other than those who are either, bored and have nothing better to do than look at network maps, or those with an interest in harming those networks. I'd be fascinated to hear your view on what it's

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-12-01 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Dear Jonathan, It is here, please go to https://dev.networkatlas.org and see the logo "Powered by Fibermap" - we have no affiliation with Fibermap, they have provided us all these KMZs, + Attributions that are there, makes complete map. I have added following text to make sure it's clear Thanks t

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-12-01 Thread Jonathan Brewer
Mehmit, Your updates of 16 hours ago took care of some attribution issues. But still there's data on your map that is not attributed. I asked in particular for detail on African terrestrial networks - and you failed to answer. Where did it come from? Who is responsible for its accuracy? These are

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-12-01 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Dear Jonathan, Please look at https://github.com/networkatlas/v1/commits/d3bccafea796546901e85e5c7bdbd586df4e88ac/attributions you will clearly see the attributions were there since September 29, 2018. What I have done yesterday was to add further Greg's details so it was carried over (Greg is hel

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-12-01 Thread Jonathan Brewer
Attributions did not exist until 16 hours ago. Github is great for exposing bullshit like this. https://github.com/networkatlas/v1/commit/d3bccafea796546901e85e5c7bdbd586df4e88ac#diff-4029522360c0e138d09ba64471884ed8 Mehmet, what you should have said was: "We haven't been attributing suppliers of

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-11-30 Thread Mehmet Akcin
this area. > > > > Cheers > > > > [b] > > > > *From: *AusNOG on behalf of Mehmet > Akcin > *Date: *Saturday, 1 December 2018 at 5:09 pm > *To: *Jonathan Brewer > *Cc: *"" > *Subject: *Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help) > > >

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-11-30 Thread Bevan Slattery
: AusNOG on behalf of Mehmet Akcin Date: Saturday, 1 December 2018 at 5:09 pm To: Jonathan Brewer Cc: "" Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help) Jonathan, please look at the right bottom corner of our website which refers to attributions. We are currently leveraging www.fiberma

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-11-30 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Jonathan, please look at the right bottom corner of our website which refers to attributions. We are currently leveraging www.fibermap.com data set and greg's cable map and additional maps that was made available via direct email submission of authorized people from companies. If you are having tr

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas

2018-11-30 Thread Mehmet Akcin
tive relief > restraining Market Clarity from reproducing, licensing, publishing or > communicating to the public maps of PIPE Networks' fibre optic cables. > > > > > -- > *From:* Mehmet Akcin > *Sent:* Saturday, December 1, 2018 4:10 pm &g

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas

2018-11-30 Thread Bevan Slattery
elief restraining Market Clarity from reproducing, licensing, publishing or communicating to the public maps of PIPE Networks' fibre optic cables. From: Mehmet Akcin Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2018 4:10 pm To: Bevan Slattery Cc: Gavin Tweedie;

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas

2018-11-30 Thread Mehmet Akcin
nt:* Saturday, December 1, 2018 2:28 am > *To:* be...@slattery.net.au > *Cc:* Gavin Tweedie; > *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas > > I was always told that is the case and when I asked my prior vendors in > australia they kindly gave me these , so I would really love to see 1) t

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas

2018-11-30 Thread Bevan Slattery
/story/2017/06/01/russia-spies-espionage-trump-239003 At least there is a potential client for you here :) B From: Mehmet Akcin Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2018 2:28 am To: be...@slattery.net.au Cc: Gavin Tweedie; Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas I was

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas

2018-11-30 Thread Mehmet Akcin
- > *From:* AusNOG on behalf of Mehmet > Akcin > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 7, 2018 11:13 am > *To:* gavin.twee...@megaport.com > *Cc:* ausnog@lists.ausnog.net > *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas > > O.K. :) > > thank you for the correction Gavin >

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-11-28 Thread Jonathan Brewer
Hi Mehmet, I had two questions. You answered one. The question you didn't answer was about attribution. "What's going to be your policy on crediting the suppliers of the data?" I ask because the current iteration of your map doesn't have any attribution to its data. A lot of data suppliers out t

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-11-27 Thread Cameron Murray
I am not sure this is 100% as I know many providers share their Data between each other and "Not meant to have it" I guess what you would be best starting with is setting guidelines on at what detail you are looking data to be eg. down to the the Meter or City A > City B via Point 1, 2, 3, 4 at at

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-11-27 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Also thank you 8-10 people who told me nobody in AU will share their KMZs ;-) looking forward to an authorized person to share one ;) On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 8:02 PM Mehmet Akcin wrote: > That is a fantastic question. Thank you for asking! > > We are running a kickstarter and looking for some sp

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-11-27 Thread Mehmet Akcin
That is a fantastic question. Thank you for asking! We are running a kickstarter and looking for some sponsors to develop self service portal. This portal will give the fiber owner(s) access to modify the data and remove We hope to have this feature ready by early 2019 (if we can secure the fundi

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-11-27 Thread Jonathan Brewer
Hi Mehmet, What's going to be your policy on crediting the suppliers of the data? And how will you make sure it is accurate & up-to-date? Regards, Jon On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 11:46, Mehmet Akcin wrote: > Team, > > I am looking for help for https://dev.networkatlas.org project in > Australia. I

[AusNOG] Network Atlas (AU Help)

2018-11-27 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Team, I am looking for help for https://dev.networkatlas.org project in Australia. I can't seem to be able to collect KZMs from people ;) if you are able to help us get KMZs (terrestrial) it would be great. thanks bunch in advance. ps; if you want to help in any other way, please reach out. meh

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas

2018-11-07 Thread Bevan Slattery
, November 7, 2018 11:13 am To: gavin.twee...@megaport.com Cc: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas O.K. :) thank you for the correction Gavin On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 5:10 PM Gavin Tweedie wrote: > > FYI > > TPG does own AAPT > Superloop does not own Meg

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas

2018-11-06 Thread Mehmet Akcin
O.K. :) thank you for the correction Gavin On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 5:10 PM Gavin Tweedie wrote: > > FYI > > TPG does own AAPT > Superloop does not own Megaport > > Gavin > > > > On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 at 09:02, Mehmet Akcin wrote: >> >> thank you someone who pinged me privately and told me some conta

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas

2018-11-06 Thread Gavin Tweedie
FYI TPG does own AAPT Superloop does not own Megaport Gavin On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 at 09:02, Mehmet Akcin wrote: > thank you someone who pinged me privately and told me some contacts > from various companies who have fibre on the ground. We are in the > process of building a self service portal

Re: [AusNOG] Network Atlas

2018-11-06 Thread Mehmet Akcin
thank you someone who pinged me privately and told me some contacts from various companies who have fibre on the ground. We are in the process of building a self service portal however, if you want to send me high level KMZs (we need them to be good but not perfectly accurate (like manhole by manho

[AusNOG] Network Atlas

2018-11-06 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Cameron, We are working on it. We hope that soon we will have some terrestrial data available. I honestly think it will be a miracle if we can get anyone to share though, because i think there are some major single points of failure in the infrastructure and operators don't want to share that. On T