Re: [AusNOG] Optus downtime chat + affecting SMS verification toTelstra?

2023-11-16 Thread Ben Buxton
ike Nokia >> or Juniper. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: AusNOG On Behalf Of DaZZa >> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 2:38 PM >> To: Andrew Oakeley >> Cc: michael.beth...@australiaonline.au; Luke Thompson < >> luk...@tn

Re: [AusNOG] Optus downtime chat + affecting SMS verification toTelstra?

2023-11-16 Thread Luke Thompson
usNOG On Behalf Of DaZZa Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 8:15 AM To: Luke Thompson Cc: michael.beth...@australiaonline.au; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Optus downtime chat + affecting SMS verification toTelstra? And now Singtel have returned serve and are denying it was them.

Re: [AusNOG] Optus downtime chat + affecting SMS verification toTelstra?

2023-11-16 Thread Christopher O'Shea
riginal Message- > From: AusNOG On Behalf Of DaZZa > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 2:38 PM > To: Andrew Oakeley > Cc: michael.beth...@australiaonline.au; Luke Thompson < > luk...@tncrew.com.au>; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Optus downtime chat +

Re: [AusNOG] Optus downtime chat + affecting SMS verification toTelstra?

2023-11-16 Thread Tony Wicks
ia or Juniper. -Original Message- From: AusNOG On Behalf Of DaZZa Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 2:38 PM To: Andrew Oakeley Cc: michael.beth...@australiaonline.au; Luke Thompson ; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Optus downtime chat + affecting SMS verification toTe

Re: [AusNOG] Optus downtime chat + affecting SMS verification toTelstra?

2023-11-16 Thread DaZZa
u/news/2023-11-17/asx-markets-business-live-news-optus-outage-senate-inquiry/103115518 > > -Original Message- > From: AusNOG On Behalf Of DaZZa > Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 8:15 AM > To: Luke Thompson > Cc: michael.beth...@australiaonline.au; ausnog@lists.ausnog.ne

Re: [AusNOG] Optus downtime chat + affecting SMS verification toTelstra?

2023-11-16 Thread Andrew Oakeley
Behalf Of DaZZa Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 8:15 AM To: Luke Thompson Cc: michael.beth...@australiaonline.au; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Optus downtime chat + affecting SMS verification toTelstra? And now Singtel have returned serve and are denying it was them. https://www

Re: [AusNOG] Optus downtime chat + affecting SMS verification toTelstra?

2023-11-16 Thread DaZZa
And now Singtel have returned serve and are denying it was them. https://www.zdnet.com/article/singtel-refutes-reports-that-its-system-upgrade-caused-optus-outage/ It's like watching kids trying to blame each other for who broke the window with the cricket ball. D On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 at 11:01,

Re: [AusNOG] Optus downtime chat + affecting SMS verification toTelstra?

2023-11-13 Thread Ben Buxton
Blaming routing updates from peers is a scapegoat and never is the cause of an outage - public BGP is the wild west and you're always getting broken information - it's your responsibility to filter those updates and (unless it's a zero-day poison packet bug) you only have yourself to blame if you f

Re: [AusNOG] Optus downtime chat + affecting SMS verification toTelstra?

2023-11-13 Thread Reuben Farrelly
There is sometimes the option of a session reset and session restart at a specified interval after the event has triggered. Vendor dependent of course, but the option exists in IOS XE at least and most likely other vendors too. This allows for a recovery once too many prefixes have been recei

Re: [AusNOG] Optus downtime chat + affecting SMS verification toTelstra?

2023-11-13 Thread John Edwards
The default behaviour of the "maximum prefix" BGP feature is to bring down the BGP session with the peer. The alternate behaviour is to log a warning and accept a prefix. I am not aware of an implementation that just allows "Accept up to X routes and then don't accept any more". That sounds logi

Re: [AusNOG] Optus downtime chat + affecting SMS verification toTelstra?

2023-11-13 Thread Michael Bethune
"Optus network received changes to routing information from an international peering network following a software upgrade" I note they are very careful to avoid nominating whose software upgrade. I also note that when they say they received routing updates, don't they limit the number of prefi

Re: [AusNOG] Optus downtime chat + affecting SMS verification toTelstra?

2023-11-13 Thread francisfides
Looks like it was a software upgrade: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-13/optus-identifies-cause-of-nationwide-outage-software-upgrade/103099902 Nothing in their media centre, just appears as a new box on their outage response page: https://www.optus.com.au/notices/outage-response Cheers -