autoconf test ': emtpy' problem under Ultrix

2001-03-19 Thread Harlan Stenn
I haven't seen any response to this report yet. Is there a good reason the "empty" file can't be done using: rm -f empty touch empty(just to be thorough) or cp /dev/null empty or cat /dev/null empty or ??? Harlan

Re: autoconf test ': emtpy' problem under Ultrix

2001-03-19 Thread Akim Demaille
"Harlan" == Harlan Stenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Harlan I haven't seen any response to this report yet. Is there a Harlan good reason the "empty" file can't be done using: Harlan rm -f empty touch empty (just to be thorough) Up to now we avoided touch. Harlan or Harlan cp /dev/null

Re: autoconf test ': emtpy' problem under Ultrix

2001-03-19 Thread Jim Meyering
Harlan Stenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I haven't seen any response to this report yet. I'm beginning to think that Ultrix's /bin/sh is so bad that polluting, er... changing autoconf to accommodate is may not be worthwhile. Do any of you have an idea of how big the Ultrix-using community is? |

Re: autoconf test ': emtpy' problem under Ultrix

2001-03-19 Thread Akim Demaille
"Jim" == Jim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim I vaguely recall that we couldn't depend on touch. However, it Jim *is* in the list of programs mentioned in standards.info's Jim `Utilities in Makefiles' section. Anyway, we really need to know how to create portably empty files, we use it

Re: autoconf test ': emtpy' problem under Ultrix

2001-03-19 Thread Jim Meyering
Akim Demaille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | "Jim" == Jim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Jim I vaguely recall that we couldn't depend on touch. However, it | Jim *is* in the list of programs mentioned in standards.info's | Jim `Utilities in Makefiles' section. | | Anyway, we really need to

Re: autoconf test ': emtpy' problem under Ultrix

2001-03-19 Thread Akim Demaille
"Jim" == Jim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim | Jim Not everyone has a /dev/null. Jim | Jim | Huh??? What for instance? Jim Er... Well, I guess you've caught me :-) I can't name one Jim offhand. And even if I could, it probably wouldn't be worth Jim making a change. Well I have an

Re: autoconf test ': emtpy' problem under Ultrix

2001-03-19 Thread Akim Demaille
"Paul" == Paul Eggert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Sorry, I lost context. Why can't we ask people to invoke Paul 'CONFIG_SHELL=/bin/sh5 /bin/sh5 configure' on Ultrix? If Paul there's only a few dozen users, we can just inform them of this Paul by hand. I was considering the option of

Re: updated win32 macro

2001-03-19 Thread Akim Demaille
"Robert" == Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robert Well CFLAGS was the autoconf maintainers suggestion. Yes, my opinion was to have a macro which defines WIN32_FLAGS, and let the user do what they want with it: glue it to CFLAGS, AC_SUBST it etc.

Re: updated win32 macro

2001-03-19 Thread Robert Collins
- Original Message - From: "Akim Demaille" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Robert Collins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 10:37 PM Subject: Re: updated win32 macro "Robert" == Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robert Well CFLAGS

Re: updated win32 macro

2001-03-19 Thread Akim Demaille
"Robert" == Robert Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robert Wasn't that for the low level interface? Which I've done - it Robert defines WIN32FLAGS... This is fine! Most people will not want to bother, and having it into CFLAGS is fine, there is nothing else to do. And your low level one

Status of 2.50

2001-03-19 Thread Akim Demaille
Hi People, I am going to release 2.49d within an hour I think. It is time to target 2.50 for real. Let it live one or two weeks, and let it be 2.50. From now on, only fixes for *new* bugs will be applied (i.e., what was broken in 2.13 and is still broken today, won't be fixed in 2.50).

Re: autoconf test ': emtpy' problem under Ultrix

2001-03-19 Thread Nicolas Joly
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 11:23:10AM +0100, Akim Demaille wrote: "Jim" == Jim Meyering [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim I vaguely recall that we couldn't depend on touch. However, it Jim *is* in the list of programs mentioned in standards.info's Jim `Utilities in Makefiles' section. Anyway,

Re: autoconf test ': emtpy' problem under Ultrix

2001-03-19 Thread Akim Demaille
"Nicolas" == Nicolas Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nicolas Ok, but the `diff -u' test is broken (see below). Thanks Nicolas!

Announcing Autoconf 2.49d

2001-03-19 Thread Akim Demaille
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gnu.utils.bug as well. The Autoconf team is extremely proud (and quite relieved) to announce the birth of Autoconf 2.49d, our release candidate. The core Autoconf is not expected to change before the release, while

RE: autoconf test ': emtpy' problem under Ultrix

2001-03-19 Thread Tim Van Holder
| Jim Not everyone has a /dev/null. | | Huh??? What for instance? Er... Well, I guess you've caught me :-) I can't name one offhand. And even if I could, it probably wouldn't be worth making a change. DJGPP doesn't (didn't) have one; its bash does support it, so the current redirecting

Re: Status of 2.50

2001-03-19 Thread Akim Demaille
There is something which is extremely important, and I think Lars can help us on this issue: compatibility with Libtool. I'm almost sure 1.3.5 and before did things that drive 2.50 crazy. AFAIR, the very next Libtool does not have this problem. Is it right?

Re: autoconf test ': emtpy' problem under Ultrix

2001-03-19 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 11:23:10AM +0100, Akim Demaille wrote: Anyway, we really need to know how to create portably empty files, we use it at other places IIRC. echo a | grep b empty-file Yucky, but it works :-) I was going to suggest echo "" | grep . empty-file but if grep ever

Re: Announcing Autoconf 2.49d

2001-03-19 Thread John Poltorak
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:01:32PM +0100, Akim Demaille wrote: The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gnu.utils.bug as well. The Autoconf team is extremely proud (and quite relieved) to announce the birth of Autoconf 2.49d, our release candidate.

Re: Announcing Autoconf 2.49d

2001-03-19 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Mon, Mar 19, 2001 at 05:01:32PM +0100, Akim Demaille wrote: The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gnu.utils.bug as well. The Autoconf team is extremely proud (and quite relieved) to announce the birth of Autoconf 2.49d, our release candidate.

Re: Status of 2.50

2001-03-19 Thread Gary V . Vaughan
On Monday 19 March 2001 6:36 pm, Akim Demaille wrote: There is something which is extremely important, and I think Lars can help us on this issue: compatibility with Libtool. I'm almost sure 1.3.5 and before did things that drive 2.50 crazy. AFAIR, the very next Libtool does not have this

Re: autoconf test ': emtpy' problem under Ultrix

2001-03-19 Thread Harlan Stenn
I got much farther with /bin/sh5: ... configure: creating ./config.status sed: Unexpected End-of-file /bin/sh5: ^Jsrcdir=..^JINSTALL=/usr/bin/install: not found configure: WARNING: you should use --build, --host, --target configure: WARNING: invalid host type: --enable-parse-clocks

Re: autoconf test ': emtpy' problem under Ultrix

2001-03-19 Thread Bob Proulx
I missed something along the way and could not find it in the mail archive. Could someone recap why the following is not a good way to create empty files? It should be a defined behavior for all POSIX shells. I understand that the subject line implies that this does not work under Ultrix. I

Re: autoconf test ': emtpy' problem under Ultrix

2001-03-19 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Mar 19, 2001, Akim Demaille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, we really need to know how to create portably empty files, we use it at other places IIRC. Do we? IIRC, there are filesystems that don't support zero-sized files. So we shouldn't depend on it, and we shouldn't depend on being