Re: [Axiom-developer] Units and Dimensions - example pdf and dvi files

2005-11-29 Thread root
All of the versions of latex I've tried on axiomunit_v2.tex blow up on the \pdfoutput=1. bad karma has come to haunt me. rather than trying to generate pdf files in latex i'd suggest using latex to gen a .dvi file and then use dvipdfm or dvi2pdf. dvi2pdf is a shell script that reads: dvips -e 0 -

RE: [Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread Page, Bill
On Tuesday, November 29, 2005 9:34 PM C Y wrote: > > Tim Daly (root) wrote: > > ... > > (a) the code isn't linear, > > (b) we eventually want it all available in a browser frontend > > and > > (c) a way to use this in graphs would give us a good "map" > > ability > > As you can see in t

RE: [Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread Page, Bill
On Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:04 PM C Y wrote: >... > Tim Daly (root) wrote: > > i've never seen latex output a pdf. always a dvi. > > this must be new behavior. > > I believe it is. This thread is another instance of someone seeing > this behavior: > > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-3

RE: [Axiom-developer] Units and Dimensions - example pdf and dvi files

2005-11-29 Thread Page, Bill
On Tuesday, November 29, 2005 11:37 PM C Y wrote: > ... > > The line breaker code (written by Robert Sutor - one of the > > original Axiom developers) that we use with Axiom on both > > MathAction and in the Windows version of the TeXmacs interface > > is written in C. The original version was ru

RE: [Axiom-developer] Units and Dimensions - example pdf and dvi files

2005-11-29 Thread C Y
--- "Page, Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday, November 29, 2005 9:56 PM Tim Daly (root) wrote: > > > > > I got a bit fancy and allowed automatic resizing of a > > > couple of large equations based on the two margin sizes, > > > but breqn would be a preferable solution there if t

RE: [Axiom-developer] Units and Dimensions - example pdf and dvi files

2005-11-29 Thread Page, Bill
On Tuesday, November 29, 2005 9:56 PM Tim Daly (root) wrote: > > > I got a bit fancy and allowed automatic resizing of a > > couple of large equations based on the two margin sizes, > > but breqn would be a preferable solution there if the > > license is ever straightened out. (Or we implement

Re: [Axiom-developer] breqn

2005-11-29 Thread C Y
Perhaps I should clarify that breqn is not a standalone program but a LaTeX package. \usepackage{breqn} is how you include it, IIRC. If Axiom removes the need for it I would be very very interested to see this - otherwise, given our preference for large margins I think we should look more deeply i

[Axiom-developer] breqn

2005-11-29 Thread C Y
--- root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I got a bit fancy and allowed automatic resizing of a > > couple of large equations based on the two margin sizes, > > but breqn would be a preferable solution there if the > > license is ever straightened out. (Or we implement our own > > version of i

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread C Y
--- root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > i'm DEEPLY opposed to conditional branching in tex > > > documents. > > > even if there is one good use i assure you some bright spot > > > down the line will figure out a way to conditionally build > > > algebra documents based on half-a-thousand switc

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread root
> > i'm DEEPLY opposed to conditional branching in tex documents. > > even if there is one good use i assure you some bright spot > > down the line will figure out a way to conditionally build > > algebra documents based on half-a-thousand switches. and if > > something gets skipped it is hard t

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread root
> > it would be cool to take the src/doc/endpapers.pamphlet and > > make it display well on MathAction with hyperref links to the > > algebra. > > Hmm :-). For the inattentive among us, what is endpapers.pamphlet > again? the old axiom hardcover book has two diagrams on the inside covers of the

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread C Y
--- root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 1) hyperref (which I see you've already decided to include) > > agreed. this is important because > (a) the code isn't linear, > (b) we eventually want it all available in a browser frontend > and > (c) a way to use this in graphs would give us a

Re: [Axiom-developer] Units and Dimensions - example pdf and dvi files

2005-11-29 Thread C Y
--- root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CY, > > I liked the 'axiomunit_diagramtest' version a lot. > I'll have to try that with src/doc/endpaper. > Can you post or send the diagram code? Actually, the whole tex file is posted, I just didn't link to it ;-). http://portal.axiom-developer.org/Memb

Re: [Axiom-developer] Units and Dimensions - example pdf and dvi files

2005-11-29 Thread root
> I got a bit fancy and allowed automatic resizing of a couple of large > equations based on the two margin sizes, but breqn would be a > preferable solution there if the license is ever straightened out. (Or > we implement our own version of it.) if breqn is an equation line breaker we have one

[Axiom-developer] [PlayingTogether]

2005-11-29 Thread unknown
Changes http://www.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/PlayingTogether/diff -- http://www.fortune.com/fortune/ceo/articles/0,15114,1135298-2,00.html -- forwarded from http://www.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Axiom-developer m

[Axiom-developer] [PlayingTogether]

2005-11-29 Thread unknown
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[Axiom-developer] [PlayingTogether]

2005-11-29 Thread unknown
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Re: [Axiom-developer] Units and Dimensions - example pdf and dvi files

2005-11-29 Thread root
CY, I liked the 'axiomunit_diagramtest' version a lot. I'll have to try that with src/doc/endpaper. Can you post or send the diagram code? re: 1 inch margins (2.54 cm for our other friends :-)) my book publisher told me that a 6 inch line was an industry standard because, in their experience, it

RE: [Axiom-developer] Units and Dimensions - example pdf and dvi files

2005-11-29 Thread C Y
--- "Page, Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:14 PM C Y wrote: > > > > Well, still not approved for public visibility > > Sorry, I've been a bit busy with other things. Do you still > want these documents approved or would you like to wait for a > more final ver

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Axiom Wiki FrontPage re-design

2005-11-29 Thread root
> Call me old-fashioned, but in order to edit pamphlet files, I would get > the arch-sources and do something locally and then submit. Only for > small changes the web-access to the sources makes sense to me. Anyway, > it is not quite clear to me how modifications to the sources made over > the

[Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread root
> > The thebibliography environment is superfluous if we agree on ONE big > .bib file and UNIQUE BibKeys. It is even more flexible. > > > === > > > > and now the way I work with these: > > > > =

[Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread root
> > By the way, you need "dummyindex" because you have > \input{${PROJECT}.ind} below. \printindex is enough. > > > \eject > > \begin{thebibliography}{99} > > \bibitem{1} nothing > > \end{thebibliography} > > <>= > > \begin{theindex} > > \item none > > \end{theindex} > > \printindex > > \input

[Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread root
> > For the .dvi generation I rather like to write a script so that the > inverse search becomes available. this comment is lost on me. please explain in detail. t ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/m

[Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread root
> > I don't say it is generally a bad idea, but I cannot say that I like it. > In particular, I don't see, why the variables TANGLE, WEAVE, etc. should > be repeated in every file. oh, this is an artifact of an OLD debate. people want to use their "standard" version of notangle even though i ke

[Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread root
> > > === > > and now the standard "tail": > > === > > \section{Makefile} > > <<*>>= > > PROJECT=tpd > > TANGLE=/usr/local/bin/NOTANGLE > > WEAVE=/usr/local/bin/N

[Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread root
> Maybe you don't like it, but I use a slightly different approach in > ALLPROSE. What comes out as defn and use in your case comes out in red > and blue color in the index in ALLPROSE. And you would simply say: > \defineterm{foo} and \useterm{foo}. Read the description of > rhxterm.sty.nw on h

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread root
> > For what it's worth, I would estimate I'll eventually ask to have the > following available, since they are very standard and too big to reall > : > > 1) hyperref (which I see you've already decided to include) agreed. this is important because (a) the code isn't linear, (b) we eventually w

[Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread root
> > So the focus is on providing the parts. In the spirit of ALLPROSE that > could mean the following: > > 1) Write some chapters about the general idea. > Then a chapter that lists the files names (of the files that form the > contents of the book) together with a short description of what th

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: ACL2 compiling problems

2005-11-29 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings, and thanks Tim! I thought this was unnecessary with 2.6.8pre, no? Take care, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > === > FAQ 36: Axiom won't build on FC3 > ===

[Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread root
> I also do not agree to the goal that each file is ONE literate program > and in some sense stand alone. I, therefore, think that "head" and > "tail" should not be part of a file, just the things that are inside the > \begin{document} ... \end{document}. > > If you like a wrapper, write a litt

[Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread root
> > Each file I make into a "literate program" has a "head" and a "tail" > > that contains essentially the same code for the same reasons. The only > > major deviation is that I will occasionally include the "axiom.sty" file > > in the literate document if it is meant to be stand-alone and the user

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread root
whew. hours worth of email! 95 new, nonspam emails! > Many contributions consist of several packages, categories and domains, which > are somehow related. There are some clear relations. For instance, many files contain more than one category, domain, or package (CDP). The very highest level

[Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread root
> > I promised to give you some idea of the pamphlet and book file coding > > "standards". This is the current "state of the world" which evolves > > as I write more pamphlet files. However, as I re-edit old files I > > modify them to conform to these standards. > > In ALLPROSE I have specifically

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread root
> My problem with HyperDoc is that there are quite a number of commands > and no good documentation what they are for. I would clearly prefer my > aldordoc.sty even though it does not cover all things HyperDoc can do. we probably need to re-think the input language for the browser. we can take u

[Axiom-developer] Re: ACL2 compiling problems

2005-11-29 Thread root
=== FAQ 36: Axiom won't build on FC3 === You need to turn off dynamic library load point randomization. As root do: echo 0 >/proc/sys/kernel/exec-shield ===

RE: [Axiom-developer] Units and Dimensions - example pdf and dvi files

2005-11-29 Thread Page, Bill
On Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:14 PM C Y wrote: > > Well, still not approved for public visibility Sorry, I've been a bit busy with other things. Do you still want these documents approved or would you like to wait for a more final version? No problem either way. I am just hesitating because I a

RE: [Axiom-developer] PDFs and dvis loaded into Portal, but need some kind of review?

2005-11-29 Thread Page, Bill
On Tuesday, November 29, 2005 9:40 AM C Y wrote: > > I uploaded a variety of pdf and dvi files into my account on > portal.axiom-developer.org, but apparently they need to be > "published" to be visible to the world. I "submitted" them > but I have no idea who is supposed to be on the other end t

[Axiom-developer] Units and Dimensions - example pdf and dvi files

2005-11-29 Thread C Y
Well, still not approved for public visibility but it looks like a direct link to each file will allow folks to view them. This is a collection of a variety of formatting options that can be achieved with the options included in the preamble. For those who want the fanciest result, I recommend th

[Axiom-developer] PDFs and dvis loaded into Portal, but need some kind of review?

2005-11-29 Thread C Y
I uploaded a variety of pdf and dvi files into my account on portal.axiom-developer.org, but apparently they need to be "published" to be visible to the world. I "submitted" them but I have no idea who is supposed to be on the other end to complete the process. Also, seeing as these are public dr

[Axiom-developer] [LaTeX]

2005-11-29 Thread unknown
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[Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Dear Tim, well, i'm WAS planning to do a document-and-cleanup cycle on axiom.sty so that (a) only the things that are used survive (there is cruft from history in there (b) it formats nicely so i can append it to stand-alone documents and (c) the macros are documented like everything else. i hav

[Axiom-developer] [PlayingTogether]

2005-11-29 Thread unknown
Changes http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/PlayingTogether/diff -- \begin{axiom} int(sin(sqrt(x)),x); \end{axiom} -- forwarded from http://page.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-d

[Axiom-developer] [AxiomInterface]

2005-11-29 Thread unknown
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Re: [Axiom-developer] Fancy LaTeX preamble

2005-11-29 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Hi Clifford, Here is the preamble I am currently using - for any more elaborate posting I'll have to wait until I'm back home. I brought this one with me but didn't have time to sort everything out. \documentclass{article} \usepackage{axiom} \usepackage{ifthen} \usepackage{fontenc} The ifthe

[Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Hi Tim, root wrote: Ralf, I promised to give you some idea of the pamphlet and book file coding "standards". This is the current "state of the world" which evolves as I write more pamphlet files. However, as I re-edit old files I modify them to conform to these standards. In ALLPROSE I have s

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Axiom Wiki FrontPage re-design

2005-11-29 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Hi Tim, root wrote: Again: I think that our aim should be to make MathAction be the *only* entry point to the Axiom world. Email has one property that a website lacks. It forms a private linear queue of work for me to accomplish (or not :-)). Well, agreed. But you are certainly not new to Ax

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: article "standard" header/footer

2005-11-29 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Hi Martin, Could you set up a page on MathAction of this discussion thread? Or better, could someone tell me how to create a new page. What you state here are some visions that should be recorded and not be forgotten in the mailinglist-archive. Martin Rubey wrote: Ralf Hemmecke <[EMAIL PR

[Axiom-developer] Re: Axiom Wiki FrontPage re-design

2005-11-29 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
On Friday, November 25, 2005 4:51 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: ... I don't think that it is actually the amount of text which is a problem, it is rather its organisation. I agree partially. You are probably right that the amount is less of a problem than it's organisation. Exactly. If there is a

Re: [Axiom-developer] MathAction to email list connection

2005-11-29 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Here is a draft alternate page to be displayed when you on (2): 2'. http://www.axiom-developer.org/zope/mathaction/SandBoxFrontPage Do you think that organization of this new page would be easier to understand for new Axiom users? Oh, just beautiful!!! Ralf

Re: [Axiom-developer] MathAction to email list connection

2005-11-29 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Page, Bill wrote: On Friday, November 25, 2005 4:51 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: Bill Page wrote: ... Perhaps this is a good time to suggest that we disconnect the axiom-developer email list from the Axiom Wiki web site? Good idea. I usually just remove those emails. A much better idea would be t