[Axiom-developer] Gold source tarball

2006-09-02 Thread Vanuxem Grégory
Hello, In the page http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomSources, it is written : "the stable release is avaiblable either via a direct source tarball or via access to CVS or TLA archives. You find more details at AxiomGoldBranch" but where is/are the source tarball(s)? It could be a good idea to a

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Jay Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | ... | > Basically, here is what I would like to see: | > On all non-linux platforms (and fedora platforms), check out a copy | > of the build-improvements. configure and make it and send me (gdr | > at

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Jay Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] | > Why don't you register at SF | | I am registered at SF; I'm belanger there. Great! | > and fix the build environment so that you can report on testings | | I don't know what that would involve, but I'd be happy to look into | it. Basical

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sat, 2 Sep 2006, Ralf Hemmecke wrote: | > We are primarily interested in testing Axiom. Consequently, I | > believe we should make it possible to allow people to test Axiom on | > system lacking latex. I don't see how that harms Axiom. | | Gaby, in order to stop the whole debate... You've hea

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sat, 2 Sep 2006, Alfredo Portes wrote: | Gaby, | | Why don't you register at SF and fix the build environment so that | > you can report on testings if you believe that Axiom should not be | > allowed in build environement without latex? That way we can | > meaningfully reject any help amo

Re: [Axiom-developer] Debian build failure

2006-09-02 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Hi Tim, Do these lines help you? >echo Hello | awk '{print "\${MID}"}' awk: warning: escape sequence `\$' treated as plain `$' ${MID} >echo Hello | awk '{print "${MID}"}' ${MID} Unfortunately I have no idea whether $ should be escaped or not. I was unable to find an appropriate line in the ga

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
We are primarily interested in testing Axiom. Consequently, I believe we should make it possible to allow people to test Axiom on system lacking latex. I don't see how that harms Axiom. Gaby, in order to stop the whole debate... You've heard Tim. He is not preventing people to do anything goo

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread Alfredo Portes
  Gaby,  Why don't you register at SF and fix the build environment so thatyou can report on testings if you believe that Axiom should not be allowed in build environement without latex?  That way we canmeaningfully reject any help amounting to test Axiom in an environmentwithout latex.  I think wh

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread Jay Belanger
Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jay Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | ... > | > Someone, peopel seems to interpret allowing Axiom to be built if latex > | > is not present as making Axiom non-literate. > | > | (Some "if"s, I

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sat, 2 Sep 2006, root wrote: | Gaby, | | This is an sourceforge project admin detail. I'll handle it. | I've sent a request to the sourceforge response team. Great! latex and svn are missing. -- Gaby ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-develope

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread root
Gaby, This is an sourceforge project admin detail. I'll handle it. I've sent a request to the sourceforge response team. Tim ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer

Re: [Axiom-developer] Some typos in src/algebra

2006-09-02 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Vanuxem Grégory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | See attachment... applied to build-improvements. -- Gaby ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Jay Belanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | ... | > Someone, peopel seems to interpret allowing Axiom to be built if latex | > is not present as making Axiom non-literate. | | (Some "if"s, I know.) | If being built refers to being built by people wh

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sat, 2 Sep 2006, Alfredo Portes wrote: | Gaby, | | I knew this part was going to be taken in another context, and by no means | I tried to underestimate the work you are doing. Plus, I do recall your | email | explaining that you did not want waste time testing on systems, when you | could

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread Jay Belanger
Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ... > Someone, peopel seems to interpret allowing Axiom to be built if latex > is not present as making Axiom non-literate. (Some "if"s, I know.) If being built refers to being built by people who might make changes (others will eventually use pre-bu

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread Alfredo Portes
Gaby,  I knew this part was going to be taken in another context, and by no means I tried to underestimate the work you are doing. Plus, I do recall your email explaining that you did not want waste time testing on systems, when you  could focus on your research or teaching.Here is a concrete propo

[Axiom-developer] Some typos in src/algebra

2006-09-02 Thread Vanuxem Grégory
See attachment... Greg --- src/algebra/attreg.spad.pamphlet.old 2006-09-02 19:00:53.0 +0200 +++ src/algebra/attreg.spad.pamphlet 2006-09-02 19:01:09.0 +0200 @@ -65,7 +65,7 @@ ++ \spad{additiveValuation} implies ++ \spad{euclideanSize(a*b)=euclideanSize(a)+euclideanSize(b)

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
"Alfredo Portes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] | In a perfect world Axiom would not have any dependency, but if it must have | it then let the | user install it in the system. How hard is to have latex on a system | nowdays. I am with Tim in this, regarding that future projects will require

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread Raymond E. Rogers
Alfredo Portes wrote: > Ray, > > On 9/2/06, *Raymond E. Rogers* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Alfredo, > Oh, please please; what good is "literate programing" if nobody > understands what is said. Known > error outs should automatically tell the user (typically inexperienced) > what to do. > > Ra

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread Alfredo Portes
Ray,On 9/2/06, Raymond E. Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Alfredo,Oh, please please; what good is "literate programing" if nobody understands what is said.  Known error outs should automatically tell the user (typically inexperienced) what to do.RayAlfredo Portes wrote: and the> error is s

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread Raymond E. Rogers
Alfredo, Oh, please please; what good is "literate programing" if nobody understands what is said. Known error outs should automatically tell the user (typically inexperienced) what to do. Ray Alfredo Portes wrote: and the > error is shown to the user telling them what is needed. >

Re: [Axiom-developer] --patch-50

2006-09-02 Thread Raymond E. Rogers
root wrote: >>> does it compile in debian stable? >>> i'll try to build a debian machine here. >> I don't know. I have modified the XLIB variable (Debian testing) in >> Makefile.pamphlet. Debian stable uses X11R6/lib directory I believe. > > This is what the 'fedora5' stanza does automatically. >

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | If I may, I have a couple questions/observations: | | 1) If there is functionality developed in a branch, what are the | mechanisms for deciding if this functionality will become part of the | "main" branch? This is not clear currently. In April 2006, I think

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Requiring LaTeX

2006-09-02 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sat, 2 Sep 2006, root wrote: | Well, after much discussion with a friend | | Are you all concerned that the new makefile won't get into gold? | Because I have philosophical problems with the idea of non-latex builds? | Have I ever said that I wouldn't accept it? | Have I even said it's up t

Re: [Axiom-developer] Debian build failure

2006-09-02 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Hi Tim, Interesting. The two lines from my src/algebra/Makefile look like ${MID}/VECTOR.lsp: ${IN}/vector.spad.pamphlet @${TANGLE} -R"VECTOR.lsp BOOTSTRAP" ${IN}/vector.spad.pamphlet>${MID}/VECTOR.lsp No \ there. I am using debian. awk --version GNU Awk 3.1.4 But I also heard that there i

[Axiom-developer] Debian build failure

2006-09-02 Thread root
I found it. On most lisp systems the egrep/awk script creates stanzas that look like: ${MID}/ABELGRP.lsp: ${IN}/catdef.spad.pamphlet @${TANGLE} -R"ABELGRP.lsp BOOTSTRAP" ${IN}/catdef.spad.pamphlet>${MID}/ABELGRP.lsp but on Debian the lines look like: \${MID}/ABELGRP.lsp: \${IN}/catdef

Re: [Axiom-developer] Debian build failure

2006-09-02 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
I don''t really understand, what you mean here. In Makefile.pamphlet I read in section \subsection{Write the Makefile stanzas for the bootstrap files} the following text: Finally we output two lines: \begin{verbatim} ${MID}/vector.spad.pamphlet: ${IN}/vector.spad.pamphlet ${TANGLE} -R"VECTOR.