[Axiom-developer] backslashes and awk

2006-10-25 Thread Page, Bill
Corrected subject line. Delete previous email. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] rg] On Behalf Of Page, Bill Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:27 AM To: Gabriel Dos Reis Cc: axiom-developer@nongnu.org Subject: RE: [Axiom-developer] postprop.lisp Gaby,

RE: [Axiom-developer] postprop.lisp

2006-10-25 Thread Page, Bill
Gaby, Here are some simple patches to build-improvements required by some versions of awk. Of course you need also to rebuild the corresponding Makefile.in files. - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/axiom.build-improvements$ hg diff . The following patch ensures that if make is restarted, it does not app

Re: [Axiom-developer] postprop.lisp

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Well, beauty of Lisp: the same things are defined in 'property.lisp' | (except for |special| property, which is unused). You are probably | right that depsys picks definitions from 'postprop.lisp'. In my | experiments (IIRC using AXIOMsys) changing 'po

Re: [Axiom-developer] postprop.lisp

2006-10-25 Thread root
> > | > > > | > Tim -- > > | > > > | > The source file postprop.lisp is compiled into depsys, but loaded > > | > in interpreted form in AXIOMsys. What is the reason for that? > > | > > > | > > | AFAIK postprop.lisp is unused -- IMHO it should be removed. > > > > It is compiled into depsys -

Re: [Axiom-developer] postprop.lisp

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > > | > | > > | > Tim -- | > > | > | > > | > The source file postprop.lisp is compiled into depsys, but loaded | > > | > in interpreted form in AXIOMsys. What is the reason for that? | > > | > | > > | | > > | AFAIK postprop.lisp is unused -- IMHO it should

Re: [Axiom-developer] postprop.lisp

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | > | > | > | > Tim -- | > | > | > | > The source file postprop.lisp is compiled into depsys, but loaded | > | > in interpreted form in AXIOMsys. What is the reason for that? | > | > | > | | > | A

Re: [Axiom-developer] postprop.lisp

2006-10-25 Thread Waldek Hebisch
> Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | > > | > Tim -- > | > > | > The source file postprop.lisp is compiled into depsys, but loaded > | > in interpreted form in AXIOMsys. What is the reason for that? > | > > | > | AFAIK postprop.lisp is unused -- IMHO it should be removed. > >

[Axiom-developer] def.lisp

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Tim -- def.lisp is loaded twice into debugsys. -- Gaby ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer

Re: [Axiom-developer] postprop.lisp

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | > Tim -- | > | > The source file postprop.lisp is compiled into depsys, but loaded | > in interpreted form in AXIOMsys. What is the reason for that? | > | | AFAIK postprop.lisp is unused -- IMHO it should be removed. It is compiled into deps

Re: [Axiom-developer] postprop.lisp

2006-10-25 Thread Waldek Hebisch
> > Tim -- > > The source file postprop.lisp is compiled into depsys, but loaded > in interpreted form in AXIOMsys. What is the reason for that? > AFAIK postprop.lisp is unused -- IMHO it should be removed. -- Waldek Hebisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] __

[Axiom-developer] postprop.lisp

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Tim -- The source file postprop.lisp is compiled into depsys, but loaded in interpreted form in AXIOMsys. What is the reason for that? -- Gaby ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axi

Re: [Axiom-developer] Hypertex and pty

2006-10-25 Thread Vanuxem Grégory
Le jeudi 26 octobre 2006 à 02:36 +0200, Waldek Hebisch a écrit : > I wanted to try hypertex in silver on Gentoo Linux. It turned out > that I can not start sman, becouse 'ptyopen' was failing. Atfter > a little investigation I found out that the machine (which otherwise > uses bleeding edge new s

Re: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread root
Bill, I did a checkout of the sourceforge SVN root. I'll diff the SVN vs axiom--silver--1 so nothing gets lost. t ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer

Re: [Axiom-developer] Hypertex and constructors

2006-10-25 Thread Waldek Hebisch
> Waldek, > > Could you latex bookvol1.tex and let me know why it stops? > This file is a copy of the published tutorial. > The problem is very simple: '\spadgraph' is defined both in 'axiom.sty' and at the beginiing of 'bookvol1.pamphlet'. It is fixed in build-improvements (and I suppose also in

[Axiom-developer] construc.lisp

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Tim -- Is there a reason why construc.lisp is not loaded into debugsys? -- Gaby ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer

Re: [Axiom-developer] Hypertex and constructors

2006-10-25 Thread root
Waldek, Could you latex bookvol1.tex and let me know why it stops? This file is a copy of the published tutorial. Tim ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer

[Axiom-developer] RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2

2006-10-25 Thread Page, Bill
Camm, See output of objdump as suggested below. On Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:10 AM you wrote: > ... > > > > > > This might be instructive with srget in place of cos: > > > > > > objdump -x /usr/lib/gcl-2.6.7/unixport/saved_gcl |grep cos > > > 0812f590 l F .text015b

Re: [Axiom-developer] Hypertex and constructors

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | I wrote: | > I tested build-improvements on x86-64 Debian testing, using bundled | > noweb and gcl. Now, I also tested silver on 32-bit Debian sarge | > (x86-64 Debian testing is still working on silver). | | Unfortunatly, silver does not build on x86

[Axiom-developer] Hypertex and pty

2006-10-25 Thread Waldek Hebisch
I wanted to try hypertex in silver on Gentoo Linux. It turned out that I can not start sman, becouse 'ptyopen' was failing. Atfter a little investigation I found out that the machine (which otherwise uses bleeding edge new software) has only old legacy pty's -- the new '/dev/ptmx' and '/dev/pts'

Re: [Axiom-developer] Hypertex and constructors

2006-10-25 Thread Waldek Hebisch
> I wrote: > > I tested build-improvements on x86-64 Debian testing, using bundled > > noweb and gcl. Now, I also tested silver on 32-bit Debian sarge > > (x86-64 Debian testing is still working on silver). > > Unfortunatly, silver does not build on x86-64 Debian testing: > > 1 linking /var/tmp/

Re: [Axiom-developer] Hypertex and constructors

2006-10-25 Thread Waldek Hebisch
I wrote: > I tested build-improvements on x86-64 Debian testing, using bundled > noweb and gcl. Now, I also tested silver on 32-bit Debian sarge > (x86-64 Debian testing is still working on silver). Unfortunatly, silver does not build on x86-64 Debian testing: 1 linking /var/tmp/hebisch/axp7/sil

[Axiom-developer] RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2

2006-10-25 Thread Page, Bill
Camm, On Wednesday, October 25, 2006 11:10 AM you wrote: > ... > OK, will try to reactivate my sourceforge status. Something > changed over the summer. Yes, there were some problems with access to the compile farm. That seems to be fixed now. > In the meantime, here is what needs doing: > >

Re: [Axiom-developer] Hypertex and constructors

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | > This looks fine to me. Could say on which platform you built and | > tested this change? Please add appropriate ChangeLog entry. This | > change should go to silver too; please send a corresponding patch | > for review (I

Re: [Axiom-developer] Hypertex and constructors

2006-10-25 Thread Waldek Hebisch
Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > This looks fine to me. Could say on which platform you built and > tested this change? Please add appropriate ChangeLog entry. This > change should go to silver too; please send a corresponding patch > for review (I appreciate some path changes on build-improvements are

RE: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread Page, Bill
Onednesday, October 25, 2006 6:21 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: > > Bill Page wrote: > > Well, the procedure that we agreed on (I think) was the Tim > > would be solely responsible for committing changes to Silver > > (axiom--silver-1 == SVN /trunk). Tim's preferred way to do this > > is entirely a man

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2

2006-10-25 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings! OK, should be optional now. Please let me know if not. Take care, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Camm Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | Greetings, and thanks! > | > | Should we make makeinfo a build dependency of GCL? We cannot generate > | any documentati

Re: [Axiom-developer] Hypertex and constructors

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | > [...] | > | > | @ | > | -<>= | > | -${OUT}/libdb.text: $(srcdir)/libdb.text | > | - @ echo 4300a copying $< to $@ | > | - $(INSTALL_DATA) $< $@ | > | - | > | -@ | > | > Given this, the file libdb.

Re: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread Waldek Hebisch
Bill Page wrote: > Well, the procedure that we agreed on (I think) was the Tim > would be solely responsible for committing changes to Silver > (axiom--silver-1 == SVN /trunk). Tim's preferred way to do this > is entirely a manual process - send him patches and copy the > axiom-developer list. Pers

RE: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread Page, Bill
On Wednesday, October 25, 2006 5:08 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote: Bill Page wrote: > > ... Is deleteing and re-creating /trunk a safe and sensible > > thing to do? > > I am not sure if it is safe, but I wonder if it has any > advantages (like preserving history) compared to other options. > My plan w

Re: [Axiom-developer] Hypertex and constructors

2006-10-25 Thread Waldek Hebisch
> Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > | @ > | -<>= > | -${OUT}/libdb.text: $(srcdir)/libdb.text > | - @ echo 4300a copying $< to $@ > | - $(INSTALL_DATA) $< $@ > | - > | -@ > > Given this, the file libdb.text should also be removed from the repo. > there are two 'libd

Re: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
First, I think we can agree that axiom--silver--1 is the master copy. (I haven't yet looked at it but it probably contains all the history since Tim started.) So in fact the history in the sourceforge or google mirror of silver are not too important. But anyway, if they the log data should b

Re: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread Waldek Hebisch
> One way to do this would be to first of all delete /trunk > from the repository and rebuild it from the current contents > of axiom--silver--1, but given the little I understand about > how SVN works, I am concerned that using svnadmin to delete > /trunk might have serious consequences for any br

RE: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread Page, Bill
On Wednesday, October 25, 2006 4:46 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > Doing a delete via svnadmin... I don't think that's the right way. > I am also worried about this. > ... > One problem with 'svn delete' applied to the trunk and then > recreation from new files is that you basically double the s

Re: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
| One way to do this would be to first of all delete /trunk | from the repository and rebuild it from the current contents | of axiom--silver--1, but given the little I understand about | how SVN works, I am concerned that using svnadmin to delete | /trunk might have serious consequences for any b

Re: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread root
Bill, fire up emacs, start a shell, do a diff -r --brief axiom--silver--1 sourceforge | grep -v svn | grep -v arch and you can see which files need to be copied. t ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/

Re: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
"Page, Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Gaby, | | Since Tim has agreed to what I proposed below and no one | else has disagreed, I would like to plan for this but I | would appreciate your opinion first on how best to do it | without screwing up the SVN repository to badly. Specfically | what

RE: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread Page, Bill
Alfredo, You are right. I guess I will have to talk to him anyway since if we do this on SourceForge, we would still have the problem of updating Google the same say. I am quite sure that my current method of updating Google would not work properly if I were to try to delete SourceForge /trunk and

RE: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread Page, Bill
Gaby, Since Tim has agreed to what I proposed below and no one else has disagreed, I would like to plan for this but I would appreciate your opinion first on how best to do it without screwing up the SVN repository to badly. Specfically what we would be trying to do is to replace the existing /tru

Re: [Axiom-developer] Hypertex and constructors

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] | @ | -<>= | -${OUT}/libdb.text: $(srcdir)/libdb.text | - @ echo 4300a copying $< to $@ | - $(INSTALL_DATA) $< $@ | - | -@ Given this, the file libdb.text should also be removed from the repo. -- Gaby __

Re: [Axiom-developer] Hypertex and constructors

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | > Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | > | As few people noticed hypertex searches for constructors where | > | giving no result, for example clicking on "NAG link" and then | > | on "Browser pages for individual r

Re: [Axiom-developer] Hypertex and constructors

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Waldek, Gaby, | | I understand your enthusiasm for changing things but you do realize | that you're going to make it very difficult to merge your changes. | You started out "fixing make" and, as you learn more, you're starting | to change files. However, you're

Re: [Axiom-developer] Hypertex and constructors

2006-10-25 Thread root
Waldek, Gaby, I understand your enthusiasm for changing things but you do realize that you're going to make it very difficult to merge your changes. You started out "fixing make" and, as you learn more, you're starting to change files. However, you're not packaging these changes into changesets in

Re: [Axiom-developer] Hypertex and constructors

2006-10-25 Thread Waldek Hebisch
Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | As few people noticed hypertex searches for constructors where > | giving no result, for example clicking on "NAG link" and then > | on "Browser pages for individual routines" gives: > | > | There is no constructor matchin

[Axiom-developer] [build-improvements] Stop setting default-pathname-defaults

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Hi, As discussed earlier, this patch makes Axiom stop setting *default-pathname-defaults* -- which led to surprising and incoherent behaviour. This variable, while Common Lisp standard, has an implementation-defined meaning that, in fact, Axiom has no business in changing directly. Other cha

Re: [Axiom-developer] Latex hangs

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > > So, I suspect we have to make a list of people for whom either SF or | > > Google SVN works and decide where we go from there. | > > | > | > For me SF SVN works. I did only tiny commits and one of them failed | > (I had to redo it), so I am not sure how wel

Re: [Axiom-developer] Latex hangs

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: | > So, I suspect we have to make a list of people for whom either SF or | > Google SVN works and decide where we go from there. | > | | For me SF SVN works. I did only tiny commits and one of them failed | (I had to redo it),

Re: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] | SVN won't work for me so i have stopped trying to use it. | it should "just work" and it doesn't. Gaby likes it and it works | well for him so he uses it. Bill wrestled heroically with it. You did not look hard enough to see for whom else it is working.

[Axiom-developer] Re: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2

2006-10-25 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings! "Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Camm, > > On October 24, 2006 11:56 AM you wrote: > > > > > > Aha. No "__srget" symbol defined in the gcl image? Isn't it strange? > > > > > > > Yes, in light of this and previous messages. We need a gdb session > > on raw_pre_gcl. Pleas

Re: [Axiom-developer] Latex hangs

2006-10-25 Thread root
> > So, I suspect we have to make a list of people for whom either SF or > > Google SVN works and decide where we go from there. > > > > For me SF SVN works. I did only tiny commits and one of them failed > (I had to redo it), so I am not sure how well will scale. Getting > sources was slow, but

Re: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread root
> > > > > tla get axiom--silver--1 > > ... > > I hope it is not too hard for you to convince "tailor" to move > > the patches from Tim to SourceForge. > > ... > > If everyone agrees (and especially, Tim Daly agrees) then I would > delete the current SourceForge SVN /trunk and replace it with a

Re: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread root
> > i've been unable to use SVN and could generate no interest in GIT. > > It's interesting to me, but I'm somewhat dismayed by the multitude of > systems we are going through. I would have been happy to standardize > on and learn Arch, but as it is no longer maintained that's not really > a viab

Re: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
If everyone agrees (and especially, Tim Daly agrees) then I would delete the current SourceForge SVN /trunk and replace it with a copy of axiom--silver--1 that is automatically maintained in sync by running Tailor every night, like we currently do between SourceForge and Google and between the bui

Re: [Axiom-developer] Latex hangs

2006-10-25 Thread Waldek Hebisch
Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > So, I suspect we have to make a list of people for whom either SF or > Google SVN works and decide where we go from there. > For me SF SVN works. I did only tiny commits and one of them failed (I had to redo it), so I am not sure how well will scale. Getting sources was

RE: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread Bill Page
On October 25, 2006 5:18 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > > > tla get axiom--silver--1 > ... > I hope it is not too hard for you to convince "tailor" to move > the patches from Tim to SourceForge. > ... If everyone agrees (and especially, Tim Daly agrees) then I would delete the current SourceForge SV

Re: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread Alfredo Portes
> You see, Tim applied patches to his Gold-to-be and now Silver is no longer in sync with that. Tim, mirror your Gold-to-be branch publicly and accept the offer of Bill to move your changes to sourceforge. How to move things from any other place back to Tim is another issue. But the mailing-list

Re: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread C Y
--- root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i've been unable to use SVN and could generate no interest in GIT. It's interesting to me, but I'm somewhat dismayed by the multitude of systems we are going through. I would have been happy to standardize on and learn Arch, but as it is no longer maintained

Re: [Axiom-developer] GIT

2006-10-25 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
> I fetched silver from SourceForge. The last ChangeLog entry is from > 2006-09-14 (so it is somewhat old) and it has build problems (fixed > in build-improvenents): one has to remove by hand '.svn' subdirectories, > full Latex installation is needed. I fetched silver about two > weeks ago, but