root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
| Part of the difficulty in our discussions is that we are often
| arguing from different starting points. I tend to start from
| the philosophy and work "top down" and insist that the ideas
| should shape the tools, Some others tend to start with the tool
> I would like to be able to explain the differences between Tim
> Daly's results above and this one. Could you both please provide
> detailed information about the computer hardware and operating
> system? What cpu? What version of OSX?
Machine Name: iBook G4
Machine Model: PowerBook6.5
CPU Type:
Bill,
> My current proposal is that when Tim's merge of the old svn /trunk
> into svn /silver is accomplished, then svn /silver should become the
> new official "trunk" and the existing svn /trunk should be deleted.
> As I understand it, whether or not we eventually rename svn /silver
> to svn /tr
> Axiom's a pretty complex system, and it seems to have picked up a bunch
> of other projects like clef, noweb, and gcl, and like all good lisp
> systems, even recursive project dependencies like gcl has it's own bfd,
> and gmp.
>
> There is still a set of external dependencies that have to be sa
"Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
| The only problem you *might* have is that to build Axiom you
| also need the noweb literate programming tools. A version of
| noweb is in the build-improvements distribution and should be
| built automatically as the first step of the build if you d
Humberto,
On November 2, 2006 10:36 PM you wrote:
> ...
> I have a working gcl on the ppc,
Excellent! :-)
> what do I need to do to build build-improvements?
>
> Just pull the source with:
>
> svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/axiom/ \
> branches/build-improvements axiom.bui
Thanks!
For the record the same details for the machine I am using is
attached below your message.
Regards,
Bill Page.
On November 2, 2006 10:25 PM Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote:
> ...
> The machine is a Dual G5 running OS X 10.4.8.
>
> neverblows:~/src/working humberto$ arch
> ppc
> neverblows
Bill Page wrote:
> I will let you know when I have another binary. It will probably
> not be before the weekend. Maybe someone else with there hands
> directly on a MAC would like also to give this a try? If so I
> recommend pulling the most recent sources from the build-
> improvements branch on
Bill Page wrote:
> I would like to be able to explain the differences between Tim
> Daly's results above and this one. Could you both please provide
> detailed information about the computer hardware and operating
> system? What cpu? What version of OSX?
The machine is a Dual G5 running OS X 10.4.
On November 2, 2006 2:28 PM Tim Daly wrote:
>
> Bill Page wrote:
>
> > Please download the new binary for AXIOMsys on MAC OSX PowerPC from:
> >
> > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/public/AXIOMsys-ppc-20061102.tgz
>
> Error: Cannot open the file
> /home
Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
> What specifically did you want to do with malloc/malloc.h?
Add i386-macosx to powerpc-macosx test for malloc/malloc.h:
$ cvs diff -Nau configure.in
Index: configure.in
===
RCS file: /sources/gcl/gcl/configu
"Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
| There are two active svn branches on SourceForge, build-improvements
| and hersen-algebra-improvements. Both of these were originally
| cloned from svn /trunk. There might be some advantage to retain
| the original svn /trunk until at least the merg
Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote:
> Axiom's a pretty complex system, and it seems to have picked up a bunch
> of other projects like clef, noweb, and gcl, ...
> What are people thinking about the builds of axiom?
I'm sorry, I just found the September 2006 archive of the
axiom-developer list where the
Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Axiom's a pretty complex system, and it seems to have picked up a bunch
| of other projects like clef, noweb, and gcl, and like all good lisp
| systems, even recursive project dependencies like gcl has it's own bfd,
| and gmp.
|
| There is sti
Gaby and Waldek,
As we discussed last week (see "famous" diagram attached below),
SourceForge svn /silver was created so that we would have an
svn branch automatically maintained in sync with Tim's "official"
tla axiom--silver--1. This is now in place. A Tailor script runs
every night to update sv
Axiom's a pretty complex system, and it seems to have picked up a bunch
of other projects like clef, noweb, and gcl, and like all good lisp
systems, even recursive project dependencies like gcl has it's own bfd,
and gmp.
There is still a set of external dependencies that have to be satisfied,
lik
> Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> | On one machine documentation searching did not work. The problem
> | was that on that machine there was already intalled 'htsearch'
> | program (which is searching trough HTML pages) and hypertex
> | picked the instlled program (which was on the P
Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote:
> No such luck. Considering that h/powerpc-macosx.h has inline (PowerPC)
> assembly, it's not likely to work (line 91).
>
> The code is for "Processor cache synchronization code." I'm definitely
> in over my head here. I don't have the foggiest notion how to implement
I just re-tried using gcl-2.6.8 on Debian unstable. Previously
build died when making BSD (due to 'msgfmt'). I wanted to test
'--disable-nls' option, but this time build failed much earlier,
already gcl configure barfed:
# Subconfigure of BFD done
#
#
checking for l
Camm Maguire wrote:
> locbfd should be the default on macosx, as we have Aurelien's specific
> mods for .o file loading. Extending this default to the intel should
> resolve the -lintl 'out of the box'. This said, I'd be quite
> (pleasantly) surprised if Aurelien's code works as is on intel. Th
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| I did a checkout of
|
| cvs -z9 -q co -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl
| With the patch to remove the -lintl from h/powerpc-macosx.defs LIBS line
I'll commit that patch to gcl-2.8.pre, and update axiom.build-improvements.
-- Gaby
_
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| I did a checkout of
|
| cvs -z9 -q co -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl
| With the patch to remove the -lintl from h/powerpc-macosx.defs LIBS line
| ./configure --enable-locbfd --disable-statsysbfd --disable-nls
| make
| ./bin/gcl
| (setq a 3)
| (system::s
Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| On one machine documentation searching did not work. The problem
| was that on that machine there was already intalled 'htsearch'
| program (which is searching trough HTML pages) and hypertex
| picked the instlled program (which was on the PATH) insted
I did a checkout of
cvs -z9 -q co -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl
With the patch to remove the -lintl from h/powerpc-macosx.defs LIBS line
./configure --enable-locbfd --disable-statsysbfd --disable-nls
make
./bin/gcl
(setq a 3)
(system::save-system "test")
./test
a
yields 3
successfully
Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
| > Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| >
| > | > "Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > | >
| > | > | Waldek,
| > | > |
| > | > | Thank you! Your patch to openpty for MAC OSX worked perfectly.
| > | > | clef now
On one machine documentation searching did not work. The problem
was that on that machine there was already intalled 'htsearch'
program (which is searching trough HTML pages) and hypertex
picked the instlled program (which was on the PATH) insted of
Axiom version. AFAICS the simplest solution for
Camm,
I removed the -lintl from powerpc-macosx.defs LIBS line
and now I can successfully build GCL on MAC OSX with the options
./configure --enable-locbfd --disable-statsysbfd --disable-nls
on the MAC OSX PPC platform.
I tried:
GCL
> (setq a 3)
> (system::save-system "test")
./test
a
and get t
I wrote:
> root wrote:
> > Apparently the ptys are opened in raw mode and do not interpret the
> > control characters but pass them down the pipe to AXIOMsys. However
> > the (read) from axiom simply gets the cntrl-D and tries to parse it.
> >
> > I'm not really sure how this should be handled. Cl
root wrote:
> I moved from fink to Xcode for Axiom development at the suggestion
> of someone on the list. Fink was not working well for me, probably
> due to my lack of MAC experience.
I'm a little confused. I have both fink and XCode installed. AFAIK, fink
requires the XCode gcc compilers and t
Camm Maguire wrote:
>
> Without any path setting? In any case, I jsut checked, and it just
> skips the msgfmt calls now, the libintl et.al. stuff is the same.
I still was having problems with libintl not being found, I finally
figured out that my makedefs file still had -lintl, I think we need t
Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
> Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> | > "Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> | >
> | > | Waldek,
> | > |
> | > | Thank you! Your patch to openpty for MAC OSX worked perfectly.
> | > | clef now compiles correctly. :-)
> | > |
> | > | I think this change
Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > "Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| >
| > | Waldek,
| > |
| > | Thank you! Your patch to openpty for MAC OSX worked perfectly.
| > | clef now compiles correctly. :-)
| > |
| > | I think this change should go in.
| >
| > If it is tested to wo
> "Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> | Waldek,
> |
> | Thank you! Your patch to openpty for MAC OSX worked perfectly.
> | clef now compiles correctly. :-)
> |
> | I think this change should go in.
>
> If it is tested to work, then please add apporpriate ChangeLog entry
> to commit to b
"Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Waldek,
|
| Thank you! Your patch to openpty for MAC OSX worked perfectly.
| clef now compiles correctly. :-)
|
| I think this change should go in.
If it is tested to work, then please add apporpriate ChangeLog entry
to commit to both build-improvements
> Please download the new binary for AXIOMsys on MAC OSX PowerPC from:
>
> http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/public/AXIOMsys-ppc-20061102.tgz
chdir /tmp/powerpc-apple-darwin6
export AXIOM=`pwd`
cd bin
./AXIOMsys
-> )set mes auto on
Error: The variable BLOCK is unbound
>> :b
> Please download the new binary for AXIOMsys on MAC OSX PowerPC from:
>
> http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/public/AXIOMsys-ppc-20061102.tgz
chdir /tmp/powerpc-apple-darwin6
export AXIOM=`pwd`
cd bin
./AXIOMsys
starts ok, loads databases, but typing 1 at the axiom prompt
> Please download the new binary for AXIOMsys on MAC OSX PowerPC from:
>
> http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/public/AXIOMsys-ppc-20061102.tgz
Error: Cannot open the file
/home/users/b/bi/billpage/asx/axiom.build-improvements/target/powerpc-apple-darwin6/algebra/compress
Raymond,
Please download the new binary for AXIOMsys on MAC OSX PowerPC from:
http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/public/AXIOMsys-ppc-20061102.tgz
This version was created using the version of libintl that is
internal to gcl. I have tried it without any LIBRARY_PATH setting
and after removing the
Waldek,
Thank you! Your patch to openpty for MAC OSX worked perfectly.
clef now compiles correctly. :-)
I think this change should go in.
Cheers,
Bill Page.
On November 2, 2006 4:50 AM Waldek Hebisch wrote:
> > ...
> > > OTOH this security problem is solved by Unix 98 pty's (in
> > > other w
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
> root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> | At the time clef, hyperdoc, graphics, etc were written we were using
> | X10 (not the house wireless, the pre-X11 windows) on 6MHz PCs. These
> | ideas were invented within the group to solve problems, not because
>
> Note also that Camm committed new changes to gcl-2.6.8pre
> just this morning that could affect this behaviour.
ok. i'll do a fresh checkout and walk it across all of the systems again.
t
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"Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| On November 2, 2006 11:09 AM I wrote:
| > ...
| > > >
| > > > ./configure --enable-locbfd --disable-statsysbfd
| > > >
| > > > These should be the default of MAC OSX
| > >
| > > Actually that fails also with the same output.
| > >
| >
| > ???
| >
| >
Greetings!
"Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On November 2, 2006 10:37 AM Tim Daly wrote:
> >
> > > > ...
> > > > fails on MAC OSX PPC
> > > >
> > > > config.status: creating po/Makefile.in
> > > > config.status: executing depfiles commands
> > > > config.status: executing default comm
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > > ...
| > > fails on MAC OSX PPC
| > >
| > > config.status: creating po/Makefile.in
| > > config.status: executing depfiles commands
| > > config.status: executing default commands
| > > file=./`echo fr | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \
| > > && rm -f $file && PATH=..
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > | > | The MAC server on which this was compiled did not have an X-windows
| > | > | environment so it was not possible to compile and test Axiom Graphics
| > | > | and the Hyperdoc browser. Also native MAC OSX10 apparently does not
| > | > | have support for th
> | > | The MAC server on which this was compiled did not have an X-windows
> | > | environment so it was not possible to compile and test Axiom Graphics
> | > | and the Hyperdoc browser. Also native MAC OSX10 apparently does not
> | > | have support for the pts virtual terminal interface so it is
On November 2, 2006 11:09 AM I wrote:
> ...
> > >
> > > ./configure --enable-locbfd --disable-statsysbfd
> > >
> > > These should be the default of MAC OSX
> >
> > Actually that fails also with the same output.
> >
>
> ???
>
> Are you double sure of this?
By that I mean, did you scrap the pre
root wrote:
> Yum does not know about binutils-dev which is a debian package
> so Fedora 6 still won't build. I searched for the binutils-dev
> equivalent but have not yet found it.
>
> There is no apt-get or yum tool for the MAC that I can find.
>
Fedora name is 'binutils-devel' (for i386 the f
On November 2, 2006 10:37 AM Tim Daly wrote:
>
> > > ...
> > > fails on MAC OSX PPC
> > >
> > > config.status: creating po/Makefile.in
> > > config.status: executing depfiles commands
> > > config.status: executing default commands
> > > file=./`echo fr | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \
> > > && rm -f $f
Yum does not know about binutils-dev which is a debian package
so Fedora 6 still won't build. I searched for the binutils-dev
equivalent but have not yet found it.
Here is the binutils-dev package from Fedora:
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/6/i386/os/Fedora/RPMS/binutil
> > ...
> > fails on MAC OSX PPC
> >
> > config.status: creating po/Makefile.in
> > config.status: executing depfiles commands
> > config.status: executing default commands
> > file=./`echo fr | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \
> > && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH msgfmt -o $file fr.po
> > /bin/sh: lin
Page, Bill wrote:
On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:18 PM Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote:
...
On PowerPC, make fails:
gcc -o raw_pre_gcl \
-L.-lpre_gcl `echo -lSM -lICE -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXmu -lXt -lXext
-lXaw -lX11-lm -lreadline -lncurses | sed -e 's/-lncurses/ /'`
-lintl -lc -lgclp
> > Sure many files *look* like text files, but you have heard Tim saying that
> >
> > 1) a SCM should never change the line ending format
>
> Tell that to Windows folks.
Consider the domain and range of an SCM. It should map files to files
as an identity operation with a side-effect of maintain
Camm Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
| In all of the following, --disable-statsysbfd --enable-locbfd is
| needed. configure should be smarter, but I'm unsure as to whether
| automating this determination should go into 2.6.8, as it could be
| tricky.
I have the following on axiom.bui
Greetings!
"Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On November 2, 2006 2:29 AM Tim Daly wrote:
> > ...
> > fails on MAC OSX PPC
> >
> > config.status: creating po/Makefile.in
> > config.status: executing depfiles commands
> > config.status: executing default commands
> > file=./`echo fr | sed
Camm,
On November 2, 2006 9:22 AM you wrote:
> ...
> Bill Page wrote:
> >
> > Here is a recipe that seems to work for me and avoids reference
> > to fink or other non-gcl related libraries:
> >
> > $ export
LIBRARY_PATH=/home/users/b/bi/billpage/osx/new/gcl-2.6.8pre/binutils/intl
> > $ make cl
... should now be removed, thanks to Gaby's suggestion --
--disable-nls added to the subconfigures.
Please let me know if problems persist here.
Take care,
--
Camm Maguire[EMAIL PROTECTED]
===
Greetings!
"Page, Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:18 PM Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote:
> > ...
> > On PowerPC, make fails:
> >
> > gcc -o raw_pre_gcl \
> > -L.-lpre_gcl `echo -lSM -lICE -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXmu -lXt -lXext
> > -lXaw -lX11-lm -lread
"Page, Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
| If you do have libintl somewhere on you system, perhaps you
| can try setting
|
| export LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/where-ever-it-is
That should be taken care of by configure
| I am surprised to see the AXIOMsys binary include a full
| path name to
Greetings!
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> cvs -z9 -q co -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl
>
> successfully builds on FreeBSD
>
>
>
> fails on MAC OSX PPC
>
> config.status: creating po/Makefile.in
> config.status: exec
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
| fails on Fedora 6
|
|
| gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer
-I/root/gcl-2.6.8pre/o -I../h -I../gcl-tk fat_string.c
| fat_string.c:17:17: error: bfd.h: No such file or directory
| fat_string.c:18:21: error: bfdlink
Greetings!
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> cvs -z9 -q co -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl
>
> successfully builds on RedHat 9
>
>
>
>
>
> yields
>
> gcc -c -Wall -DVOL=volatile -fsigned-char -pipe -O3 -fomit-frame-p
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| > | The MAC server on which this was compiled did not have an X-windows
| > | environment so it was not possible to compile and test Axiom Graphics
| > | and the Hyperdoc browser. Also native MAC OSX10 apparently does not
| > | have support for the pts virtual te
Greetings!
Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Page, Bill wrote:
> > On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:18 PM Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga wrote:
>
> >> On Intel, configure of gmp fails, as it can't figure out the machine
> >> type. I have gmp 4.2.1 installed with fink, but I don't thi
On November 2, 2006 2:29 AM Tim Daly wrote:
> ...
> fails on MAC OSX PPC
>
> config.status: creating po/Makefile.in
> config.status: executing depfiles commands
> config.status: executing default commands
> file=./`echo fr | sed 's,.*/,,'`.gmo \
> && rm -f $file && PATH=../src:$PATH msgfmt -o $
Ralf Hemmecke wrote:
> On 11/02/2006 01:04 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
> > .ht, .pht, .bitmap, .pixmap, .xbm and .data in Axiom distribution are
> > text files. Hyperdoc uses byte counts to access .ht and .pht, but
> > the file positions should be recomputed anyway.
>
> Since I don't live too deep
Hello,
On 11/02/2006 01:04 PM, Waldek Hebisch wrote:
Ralf Hemmecke wrote:
Sure many files *look* like text files, but you have heard Tim saying that
1) a SCM should never change the line ending format
Tell that to Windows folks.
Well, as you see, I did not (yet) remove the svn:eol-style p
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 07:05:52PM -0500, Page, Bill wrote:
> Second, clef does have some Axiom command completions that are not
> built-in to readline but I think readline is also configurable,
> and could provide such functionality, right?
I've been using Axiom together with readline plus c
Ralf Hemmecke wrote:
> Sure many files *look* like text files, but you have heard Tim saying that
>
> 1) a SCM should never change the line ending format
Tell that to Windows folks.
> 2) some files are random access files. If SVN replaces \n by \r\n at
> checkout time, they are corrupt, since t
> On Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:45 PM Waldek Hebisch wrote:
> >
> > I am affraid I can not really offer Mac experience. However
> > the first Goole hit for: MACOSX pty is:
> >
> > Mac OS X pty Permission Security Issue
> >
> > Now, something which does not exits should have no security
> >
> > "Page, Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > | The MAC server on which this was compiled did not have an X-windows
> > | environment so it was not possible to compile and test Axiom Graphics
> > | and the Hyperdoc browser. Also native MAC OSX10 apparently does not
> > | have support for the pts
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, Gabriel Dos Reis wrote:
> "Page, Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> | The MAC server on which this was compiled did not have an X-windows
> | environment so it was not possible to compile and test Axiom Graphics
> | and the Hyperdoc browser. Also native MAC OSX10 apparently doe
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