[Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen

2006-10-18 Thread Alfredo Portes
On 10/18/06, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we should remove, update, or link to the Fedora livecd the > http://daly.axiom-developer.org/doyen/doyen04262005.iso image. > > What do you think? good idea. done. --t Thank you. ___ Axiom-dev

[Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen

2006-10-17 Thread root
> I think we should remove, update, or link to the Fedora livecd the > http://daly.axiom-developer.org/doyen/doyen04262005.iso image. > > What do you think? good idea. done. --t ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: doyen

2006-10-17 Thread Alejandro Jakubi
CY That's not possible in general - if nothing else, the hardware platforms on which software is run will not remain static. A result turned out on a PDP-8 Certainly, bitwise reproducibility does not seem realistic. But for the purposes of scientific documentation, a weaker form, the reprodu

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: doyen

2006-10-17 Thread CY
On Monday 16 October 2006 20:05, Alejandro Jakubi wrote: > Tim, Alfredo, CY > > One doesn't always want to achieve that. The first question to be asked > > should be "is this new behavior wrong, or was the old behavior wrong?" > > (In more subtle cases - obviously a crash is wrong.) It is possi

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: doyen

2006-10-16 Thread root
> Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs) > Memory: 2048MB RAM > SONY CD-RW CRX320E: 52X max CD-R write, 52X max CD read, 16X max DVD read, > 32X CD-RW write. 2MB buffer memory. o, nice toy package it up and send it so we can debug the problem. :-) t _

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: doyen

2006-10-16 Thread Alfredo Portes
Hi Alejandro, Thanks for the feedback. Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs) Memory: 2048MB RAM SONY CD-RW CRX320E: 52X max CD-R write, 52X max CD read, 16X max DVD read, 32X CD-RW write. 2MB buffer memory. Note that out of these 5 minutes or so, the timeout for bringing up eth

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: doyen

2006-10-16 Thread Alejandro Jakubi
Alfredo Something is wrong. Doyen does not take 5 minutes to load, not even in a virtual machine. Can you give me the specs of the machine you are testing please (memory - cpu - cdrom speed). Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs) Memory: 2048MB RAM SONY CD-RW CRX320E: 52X max

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: doyen

2006-10-16 Thread Alfredo Portes
Alejandro, OK, some feedback: 1. I could not run properly doyen04262005 on my machine at home because it produced some ammount of cloop readerror messages. It run fine on an older machine at the office, though. Sadly, there is no md5 file to check the iso file. Anyway, I have found that this Kn

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: doyen

2006-10-16 Thread Alejandro Jakubi
Tim, Alfredo, CY The axiom-developer@nongnu.org mailing list is the best forum for this discussion. I've taken the liberty of copying your questions and comments to the list so we can all contribute. Please subscribe to this list so you can be up to date with the project. I have subscribed,

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: doyen

2006-10-13 Thread CY
On Friday 13 October 2006 21:18, root wrote: > Clearly this involves a lot of "assumed infrastructure". It assumes > that literate programs will show up at conferences. Carlo Traverso > (Univ. of Pisa, Math Dept. Chair) is working to create a new, referred > Journal that accepts and reviews liter

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: doyen

2006-10-13 Thread Alfredo Portes
Alejandro, Good to hear that you are interested on the Doyen idea. Please subscribe to this list so you can be up to date with the project. > and later on, I have been found some more information distributed in several > places like: > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/doyencd This page surel

[Axiom-developer] Re: doyen

2006-10-13 Thread root
The axiom-developer@nongnu.org mailing list is the best forum for this discussion. I've taken the liberty of copying your questions and comments to the list so we can all contribute. Alejandro Jakubi writes: > A short time ago, by chance, I have came across with your page about > the Doyen proje

[Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen Docs

2006-09-14 Thread Bill Page
On September 14, 2006 11:58 AM Alfredo Portes wrote: > While editing: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/DoyenDocs , > I got this error: Some or all of this page may not have rendered properly, > because of the following error: > noweb: cd '/var/zope/var/LatexWiki/'; > /usr/local/axiom/mnt/linux/bi

[Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen and Sage

2006-09-14 Thread Alfredo Portes
 Tim,Can the two of you work on bringing the docs up to speedwith the Doyen CD distribution?   The latest work to add Sage is not in the docs yet. However,  the current docs should allow anybody to reproduce the  latest CD. Of course the docs can always be improved.  I will revise the documentation

[Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen and Sage

2006-09-14 Thread root
Bill, > Tim, since you "own" the Axiom book on Lulu can you look into how > to do this? Of course I can arrange to publish it as a separate > item and I will also add it to the CafePress Axiom Gear - but > you know, I am disappointed by how little "gear" actually gets > ordered :( I like my Axiom

[Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen and Sage

2006-09-14 Thread root
On a different note, both to Bill and Jose, It is important that we document everything we do in a way that others can easily reproduce our work. Jose, I know you've heard this song many times so I'll just sing the first verse. Bill, I think it is important that we keep the doyen build documenta

[Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen and Sage

2006-09-14 Thread root
Alfredo, > > On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:03 PM you wrote: > > > ... > > I created an image of Doyen with Sage: > >http://alfredo.axiom-developer.org/DoyenSage.iso > > > I exhort to try it and let me know if anything is missing. > Excellent work. You're really adding va

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen and Sage

2006-09-14 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Hi Alfredo, I strongly believe that you should put your name onto http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/SandBoxActiveAxiomDevelopers Or send me some data and I'll do it. Your work on Doyen and Sage is important for Axiom. Thanks. Ralf ___ Axiom-develope

[Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen and Sage

2006-09-13 Thread Alfredo Portes
  Bill,Man. You're good! :-)  I have learned more from you and Tim than in many of my CS classes.   I wish I could contribute more regarding source code...some day.Did I miss it? I didn't see the Sage icon.   Applications -> Doyen -> Sage Expect the update to the repository in a couple of days.   O

[Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen and Sage

2006-09-13 Thread William Stein
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:47:36 -0700, Page, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I created an image of Doyen with Sage: http://alfredo.axiom-developer.org/DoyenSage.iso I exhort to try it and let me know if anything is missing. Man. You're good! :-) Indeed! I put a Sage ico

[Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen and Sage

2006-09-13 Thread Page, Bill
Alfredo, On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:03 PM you wrote: > ... > I created an image of Doyen with Sage: http://alfredo.axiom-developer.org/DoyenSage.iso > I exhort to try it and let me know if anything is missing. Man. You're good! :-) I downloaded it, burned the CD and

[Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen and Sage

2006-09-13 Thread Alfredo Portes
Bill, I don't think it is necessary to wait for that. I may be afew more months away.   Ok.  If there is anything I can do to help please let me know. But both Axiom and Sage (about 300MB) are quite large. Doyou think they would both fit + DoyenWiki and Magnus on the same CD?   Yeah it is okay, ke

[Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen and Sage

2006-09-13 Thread Page, Bill
On Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:19 PM Alfredo Portes writes: > I saw few emails regarding adding Sage to the Doyen CD. > > Would you want me to add it now or wait until a possible > support for Axiom inside Sage. I don't think it is necessary to wait for that. I may be a few more months away.

[Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen and Sage (was: [SAGEsupport] SAGE)

2006-09-13 Thread Alfredo Portes
Hi Bill,I saw few emails regarding adding Sage to the Doyen CD.Would you want me to add it now or wait until a possiblesupport for Axiom inside Sage.I could have a CD only with Sage for now. Also, should add your work on LatexWiki to support Sageto the Doyen CD?Regards,Alfredo Portes __

[Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2006-07-30 Thread Bill Page
Alfredo Thanks for setting this up. This content on the DoyenCD is very important. I hope some other people here on this list take a few moments to review the pages that you have already added and to suggest a few more pages that should be merged from the Axiom Wiki. It is very easy to update the

[Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen content

2006-07-25 Thread Page, Bill
On Tuesday, July 25, 2006 11:48 AM Alfredo Portes wrote: > > I started merging the content of axiom-developer into Doyen: > http://doyen.sytes.net > Great. The web site above does not seem to be responding right now: The connection has timed out The server at 24.44.150.177 is taking too lon

[Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2006-06-21 Thread Page, Bill
Alfredo, On Wednesday, June 21, 2006 7:36 AM you wrote: > > Bill Page wrote: > > Are you actually planning to run this version of Axiom+Aldor > > to allow the use of \begin{aldor} ... \end{aldor} on the > > DoyenCD? Or just have it there for local installation? > > I did not try the \begin{aldor

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2006-06-21 Thread Page, Bill
Alfredo, On Wednesday, June 21, 2006 6:35 AM you wrote: > > The machine I was using to build the latest Axiom sources was > removed from the CAISS lab :(. Unfortunately, I have lost all > the data, and I was not able to include this version of Axiom > in the new Doyen build. > > I do not know

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2006-06-21 Thread Alfredo Portes
The machine I was using to build the latest Axiom sources was removed from the CAISS lab :(. Unfortunately, I have lost all the data, and I was not able to include this version of Axiom in the new Doyen build. I do not know if somebody has the binaries for Fedora Core 3 of this latest Axiom. I wo

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2006-06-21 Thread Martin Rubey
"Page, Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Also, I would like to know if the "Axiom+Aldor (binary, > > 48.8 Mbytes) LatexWiki Image Recommended Download" is recent > > enough to put in the CD. > > Yes I think so. It is based on the September 2005 sources for > Axiom, but it is exactly what we a

[Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2006-06-20 Thread Page, Bill
Alfredo, On Saturday, June 17, 2006 2:28 PM you wrote: > > Hope your conference went ok. Yes. The presentations were of mixed quality but meeting old friends made it wothwhile. Some of the presentations will be published. > My research in ORNL has been delayed, so I will have more time > to wo

[Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen @ ASEE Mid-Atlantic Spring Conference 2006

2006-04-30 Thread root
you guys have done an excellent job! this is going to mean so much more than just coursework on your resumes. anybody can take courses but few people build a science platform using open source. Consider writing up the work and submitting it to an external conference. The more exposure you get the b

[Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen @ ASEE Mid-Atlantic Spring Conference 2006

2006-04-30 Thread Bill Page
On April 30, 2006 10:43 AM Alfredo Portes wrote: > Attached to this email there are some pictures of the ASEE poster > presentation at City Tech. > > This is the website of the conference: http://websupport1.citytech.cuny.edu/Faculty/hli/asee/asee/default.asp Great work guys! Your poster looks v

[Axiom-developer] Re: doyen and virtual appliance

2006-03-04 Thread root
My understanding of the "virtual appliance" concept would be something like a regular application stripped down to the essential elements and packaged as a virtual machine. So, for instance, you could take ProTools or Cakewalk (music software), add a bunch of special purpose tools like LilyPond (op

[Axiom-developer] Re: doyen and virtual appliance

2006-03-04 Thread root
Yeah, I'm familiar with Xen. It requires kernel tweaks. The $200K was the bait, actually. One way to get funding is to put together a proposal. Not sure if there is only one payout and if there is only one payout Doyen is unlikely to win. But if they pay for multiple projects then it is possible

[Axiom-developer] RE: doyen and virtual appliance

2006-03-04 Thread Bill Page
Tim, On February 28, 2006 1:20 PM you wrote: > ... > So Doyen would be a virtual machine focused on adding and > integrating scientific software into a single purpose platform. > A hyper-packaging concept. Instead of installing a dozen tools > to get a local axiom wiki working you just copy the V

[Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen

2006-01-23 Thread Alfredo Portes
For the version of Zope I am using: zope-2.8.0-2.fc3.i386.rpm.In my steps, I really never install ZWiki 0.35, I actually justdownload ZWiki and LatexWiki from your repository. I guessthis is okay, because Latex and Axiom work fine for me. Now the pamphlet problem, to be specific, let's say I makea

[Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2006-01-23 Thread Page, Bill
Alfredo, On Monday, January 23, 2006 10:12 PM you wrote: > For the version of Zope I am using: zope-2.8.0-2.fc3.i386.rpm. > > In my steps, I really never install ZWiki 0.35, I actually just > download ZWiki and LatexWiki from your repository. I guess > this is okay, because Latex and Axiom work f

[Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2006-01-23 Thread Page, Bill
Alfredo on Monday, January 23, 2006 5:16 PM you wrote: > I have a concern regarding the instructions in > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/InstallingMathAction > on how to install AxiomWiki. > > The first thing is that if I follow the instructions, > ZWiki does not appear in Zope products (meaning

[Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2006-01-20 Thread Bill Page
Alfredo, On January 20, 2006 6:58 PM you wrote: > I am having a little problem with the pamphlets and the > latex wiki. I get this error: > > noweb: cd '/var/zope/var/LatexWiki/Doyen'; /usr/local/axiom/mnt/linux/bin/lib/noweave > -delay 'LatexWiki.pamphlet' > ' LatexWiki.tex' > /usr/local/axiom/m

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2006-01-18 Thread Alfredo Portes
Hi Bill,I will look into the way you call the notangle inside your scripts. Right now we have this application: http://toolbox1.sytes.net/doyen/dragdrop/ If you drag and drop a pamphlet file here, (you must drag the link of course)the application will read the pamphlet extract the make file and pro

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2006-01-17 Thread Page, Bill
On Tuesday, January 17, 2006 4:41 PM Alfredo Portes wrote: > I have a few questions regarding the way ZWiki handles new > pages. I would like to integrate the little app we have for > drag and drop in the CD to the Latex Wiki. Is it possible to > create pages in the Wiki without doing this manuall

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2006-01-10 Thread Page, Bill
Jose, On Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:19 AM you wrote: > Sorry Bill that I did not answer your email before, having > multiple exams this week. No problem. > I was thinking I did all the steps, but probably I missed > something. I will try them again. I have to admit that it's pretty complicate

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2006-01-07 Thread Bill Page
Jose, I am sorry that it has taken me a little while to get back to you. On January 5, 2006 1:04 PM you wrote: > Dear Mr. Page, Enough formality. Please just call me Bill. :) > Thank you for the help. The fix that you gave me solved the error, > together with moving axiom to the /usr/local dir

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2006-01-05 Thread Bill Page
On January 5, 2006 2:04 AM Alfredo Portes > Bill Page wrote: >> cmdLine = >> "cd '%s'; /usr/local/axiom/mnt/linux/bin >> /lib/noweave -delay '%s.pamphlet'" >> >> which of course is specific to the installation of Axiom on >> the axiom-developer.org server. You will have to change this >> and ot

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2006-01-04 Thread Alfredo Portes
Dear Mr. Page,cmdLine =  "cd '%s'; /usr/local/axiom/mnt/linux/bin/lib/noweave -delay '%s.pamphlet'" which of course is specific to the installation of Axiom onthe axiom-developer.org server. You will have to change thisand other similar local references.Let me know if this helps. In the Doyen CD, A

[Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen

2006-01-04 Thread Alfredo Portes
Thank you Mr. Page. I was not able yet to try this fix. I will try this tomorrow. I will keep you updated. I was working on the instructions for the Live CD. The old ones were wrong. These are the updated instructions: http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/DoyenCD (Tim: Today the got the internet back

[Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2006-01-04 Thread Bill Page
Jose, On January 4, 2006 3:19 PM you wrote: > ... > > * Module Products.LatexWiki.pamphletWrapper, line 29, in renderPDF > > NameError > ... Line 29 of pamphletWrapper.py is: ... class LatexSyntaxError(Exception): pass class NowebError(Exception): pass< compare class

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen

2005-12-23 Thread root
Note1: i forgot to mention that you have to set some shell variables to run under cygwin (HTPATH is optional) set DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0.0 set AXIOM=/cygwin/c/page/int/hyper set HTPATH=doc/hypertex Note2: the hyperdoc compiled below will also run OUTSIDE of cygwin: (be careful about /

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen

2005-12-23 Thread root
Bill, 1) get the files save hyperdoc from http://daly.axiom-developer.org/hyperwin.tgz 2) start the X server get Xming from http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Xming install Xming (just run the exe) in a command prompt window cd C:\Program Files\Xming xlaunch (use multip

RE: [Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen

2005-12-20 Thread Page, Bill
On Monday, December 19, 2005 11:14 PM Tim Daly (root) wrote: > ... > Jose wrote: > > the discussions and possible future work. We managed to > > have Zwiki-Latex working on the CD (the Fedora version). > > Some problems in the lab stopped us from uploading it. > > We will do that as soon as possib

[Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen

2005-12-19 Thread root
Jose, good to hear from you and good to see that you're still interested. doyen has been discussed on the mailing list and we're hoping to have enough support put together to get it ready to distribute at ISSAC 2006 (Genova Italy http://issac2006.dima.unige.it/call2.html) i normally get asked to

[Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2005-11-17 Thread Bill Page
On November 16, 2005 8:38 PM Tim Daly Jr. wrote: > ... > > Really, I don't want to play with any of this. > > It shows. > Thank you. > > I want to use computer algebra for theoretical physics. > > I would prefer if heavy lifting was done in a collaborative > > manner, shared among several peo

[Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2005-11-16 Thread Tim Daly Jr.
> Really, I don't want to play with any of this. It shows. > I want to use > computer algebra for theoretical physics. I would prefer if > heavy lifting was done in a collaborative manner, shared among > several people. But instead, the suggestion is that I should > start by studying a textbook

RE: [Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen

2005-11-16 Thread Page, Bill
On Wednesday, November 16, 2005 3:56 PM Jens Axel Søgaard asked: > > Page, Bill wrote: > > > I guess that learning how to program well in lisp is quite a > > different thing than learning code re-use in general. In fact > > Peter Norvig has argued that Lisp is not particularly well > > suited to

[Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen

2005-11-16 Thread Jens Axel Søgaard
Page, Bill wrote: I guess that learning how to program well in lisp is quite a different thing than learning code re-use in general. In fact Peter Norvig has argued that Lisp is not particularly well suited to hetrogenuous projects that involve several different kinds of tools and programmers wi

[Axiom-developer] RE: Doyen

2005-11-16 Thread Page, Bill
On Wednesday, November 16, 2005 6:55 AM Tim Daly Jr. wrote: > ... > > Axiom has been ported by writing compatibility layers that emulate > the Lisp it was being ported from. At least for the code I > looked at, it's no more a Common Lisp program than it is a CLTL1 > (a previous semi-standard) p

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen

2005-11-16 Thread Andrey G. Grozin
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005, Tim Daly Jr. wrote: On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 02:11 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Maxima compiled on GCL as a Common Lisp application? I don't know. It is possible to compile Maxima on a Common Lisp, but I don't think that GCL is a complete Common Lisp implementation yet.

[Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen

2005-11-16 Thread Tim Daly Jr.
On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 02:11 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is Maxima compiled on GCL as a Common Lisp application? I don't know. It is possible to compile Maxima on a Common Lisp, but I don't think that GCL is a complete Common Lisp implementation yet. I think Raymond Toy was responsible for

[Axiom-developer] Re: Doyen

2005-11-15 Thread bill.page1
"Tim Daly Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 00:24 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > Must people don't run Apache on their desktop configurations. > > What? I don't know these most people, but most of the people > I know run Apache. Oh, that's good. I thought that