FW: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-20 Thread Page, Bill
-Original Message- From: Davide P. Cervone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 7:29 PM To: Bill Page Subject: Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath Bill: Thanks for CCing me on the conversation about jsMath in the Axiom- Developer mailing list. I read

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread root
> Are you sure about that? The source code comment labels it "HACK". t ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread Bill Page
On December 19, 2005 12:43 AM William Sit wrote: > OK, again, without doing anything more than the last time > (after installing the jsMath fonts and restarting Firefox): > > http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/temp/jstest.html > > works without a warning. However the > > http://page.axiom-develo

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread Bill Page
On December 19, 2005 2:09 AM Tim Daly (root) writes: > ... > jsMath is a javascript program that gets downloaded but does not > show up in the source page. the warning is issued by the jsMath > javascript program. That is correct. > it is looking at the size of a particular character in your tex

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread root
William, > Since I don't see the red box warning message: > Warning: It looks like you don't have the TeX math fonts > installed. The mathematics on this page may not look right without > them. The jsMath Home Page has information on how to download the > needed fonts. In the meantime, we will do

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread William Sit
Bill Page wrote: > > On December 18, 2005 11:05 PM William Sit wrote: > > > > Bill Page wrote (to Tim): > > > > > Does Eitan's original link work for you? > > > > > > http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/temp/jstest.html > > > > > > The version of jstest.html page on axiom-developer is identica

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread Bill Page
On December 18, 2005 11:05 PM William Sit wrote: > > Bill Page wrote (to Tim): > > > Does Eitan's original link work for you? > > > > http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/temp/jstest.html > > > > The version of jstest.html page on axiom-developer is identical > > to Eitan's but the version of jsMa

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread William Sit
Bill Page wrote (to Tim): > Does Eitan's original link work for you? > > http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/temp/jstest.html > > The version of jstest.html page on axiom-developer is identical > to Eitan's but the version of jsMath itself on axiom-developer > is the older version. I (not

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread root
http://www.math.union.edu/~dpvc/jsMath/examples all work perfectly http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/temp/jstest.html fails i followed the directions on pubpages.unh.edu/~jsh3/jsMath ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org htt

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread William Sit
Bill Page wrote: > It works fine for me on Windows with both FireFox 1.5 and > with Microsoft Explorer. Hi Bill: Unlike Tim, I did not add ANYTHING to my computer except to visit the page http://www.math.union.edu/~dpvc/jsMath/examples/Henrici.html and related links there. I tried this in F

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread Bill Page
> -Original Message- > From: root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: December 18, 2005 10:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > axiom-developer@nongnu.org > Subject: Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath > Previously

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread root
the third point was written before i sat down and read the jsMath source code. i have a better understanding of it now. i'm WAY behind the curve on the browser-based technologies. i have been considering the browser as a "front-end" technology and it is more of a "platform" technology. it's a ve

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread root
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RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread Bill Page
On December 18, 2005 6:47 PM Tim Daly (root) wrote: > > third, jsMath clearly seems the way to go. at some point we > can certainly generate jsMath just like we generate tex code > from axiom. perhaps this could be a "summer of code" project. > (added) > I am not sure what you mean by "generate

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread Bill Page
On December 18, 2005 7:20 PM Tim Daly (root) wrote: > > I installed the fonts per the jsMath home page and all > of their pages render properly. > > But http://page.axiom-developer.org/jstest.html > fails to render with the warning about not finding fonts. > > i reinstalled the fonts on both li

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread root
Bill, I installed the fonts per the jsMath home page and all of their pages render properly. But http://page.axiom-developer.org/jstest.html fails to render with the warning about not finding fonts. i reinstalled the fonts on both linux and windows but no luck. t

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread root
wow. i must say that i'm really out of my element here but a few things are apparent. first, by "cooperation" i meant that i'd like to figure out how to work with the authors of pages on PlanetMath, perhaps by setting up links that would contain axiom demonstrations of some of the math concepts.

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread Eitan Gurari
Bill, Thanks! I changed the accessible modes to be also executable besides readable and the rendering now works. -eitan > Further to your earlier email, here is your example page > loaded on the axiom-developer.org site where I know that > the jsMath directory is accessible: > > http://p

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread Bill Page
Eitan, Further to your earlier email, here is your example page loaded on the axiom-developer.org site where I know that the jsMath directory is accessible: http://page.axiom-developer.org/jstest.html It seems to work fine. Regards, Bill Page. On December 18, 2005 5:05 PM Bill Page wrote: > ..

[Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread Bill Page
Eitan, On December 18, 2005 12:31 PM you wrote: > > I have much of the core work done to configure tex4ht to output > ams/la/tex dialects for math. Wonderful! > I'm stuck with the jsmath tex side due to a lack of a testing > environment, because I'm failing somewhere to correctly deal > with th

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread Eitan Gurari
> > LaTeX2HTML uses a different approach than tex4ht for translating > > latex into hypertext, and I do think the axiom people should > > consider the option of using LaTeX2HTML instead of tex4ht. > > Could you please explain why you think we should consider LaTeX2HTML > instead of tex4ht

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread Bill Page
Eitan, On December 18, 2005 3:26 PM you wrote: > ... > LaTeX2HTML uses a different approach than tex4ht for translating > latex into hypertext, and I do think the axiom people should > consider the option of using LaTeX2HTML instead of tex4ht. Could you please explain why you think we should con

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread Eitan Gurari
Tim, If collaboration refers to how pages are created, then please note that the planetmath.org site uses the LaTeX2HTML tool for translating latex into html. LaTeX2HTML uses a different approach than tex4ht for translating latex into hypertext, and I do think the axiom people should consider th

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread root
Just saw planetmath.org. interesting site. must be some way to collaborate with them from axiom. t ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer

[Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-12-18 Thread Eitan Gurari
Dear all, I have much of the core work done to configure tex4ht to output ams/la/tex dialects for math. I'm stuck with the jsmath tex side due to a lack of a testing environment, because I'm failing somewhere to correctly deal with the jsmath software requirements. Specifically, when I point a

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-10-20 Thread Page, Bill
Tim, On Thursday, October 20, 2005 4:25 PM you asked: > > ok, i'll bite. > what could "old latex" mean? > does anyone have a pointer to a document? > See: http://www.ams.org/jourhtml/latexbenefits.html Appendix 1: How To Tell Whether a LaTeX Document is Old LaTeX or LaTeX 2e? Regards, Bill P

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-10-20 Thread root
ok, i'll bite. what could "old latex" mean? does anyone have a pointer to a document? t ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/axiom-developer

[Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-10-20 Thread Page, Bill
On Thursday, October 20, 2005 2:40 PM Eitan Gurari wrote: > ... > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/algebra/fspace.spad > > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/scripts/tex > > The file doesn't compile at my place for native latex on a few > different machines. > >

[Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-10-20 Thread Eitan Gurari
> > http://baruch.ev-en.org/proj/chktex/ > > > > it issues warnings about possible typographical errors. > > > > Excellent! I think I will add this as an online tool in > MathAction. > > > On the other hand, we could simply say: a proper pamphlet > > file is a file that is correctl

[Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-10-20 Thread Eitan Gurari
Page, > Will tex4ht convert any of these legacy codes? Yes, provided native latex can compile the file. > > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/algebra/fspace.spad > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/axiom--test--1/src/scripts/tex The file doesn't compile at my place for na

[Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-10-20 Thread Page, Bill
Martin, On Thursday, October 20, 2005 5:45 AM you wrote: > ... > Bill Page wrote: > > > > Besides a stronger discipline, how can we insure that our > > LaTeX coding meets certain minimum standards so that it > > doesn't cause the conversion programs to barf? Do you know > > of any sort of 'lint

[Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-10-20 Thread Page, Bill
On Thursday, October 20, 2005 12:34 PM Eitan Gurari wrote: > ... > > > Some visual problems need to be corrected, in particular > > > for \eqno. > > > > I think that's a macro in axiom.sty? > > No, it is a primitive instruction of TeX. > Oh ya... in fact there are quite a number of places whe

[Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-10-20 Thread Eitan Gurari
Martin, > > > I'll provide a jsmath mode. Probably during the winter break. Maybe > > > before that. > > This would be wonderful! Looks like an email of mine from Saturday saying the same got lost somewhere. > Oh dear. This is really true? Would this be better with jsMath? I believe

[Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-10-20 Thread Eitan Gurari
Bill, > But maybe it's a bit shocking though that the MathML result > is nearly twice the size of the pdf file. :( Well, I guess > I knew that MathML was verbose ... TeX4ht adds many hints into the MathML code to facilitate post-processing of the code. It is quite easy to get rid of that ext

[Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-10-20 Thread Martin Rubey
Dear Bill, Dear Eitan, Page, Bill writes: > Eitan > > On Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:37 AM you wrote: > > > > I'll provide a jsmath mode. Probably during the winter break. Maybe > > before that. This would be wonderful! > But maybe it's a bit shocking though that the MathML result is

[Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-10-20 Thread Page, Bill
Eitan On Thursday, October 20, 2005 1:37 AM you wrote: > > I'll provide a jsmath mode. Probably during the winter break. > Maybe before that. Thanks! > > > But our "acid test" - a pamphlet file called > > 'dhmatrix.spad.pamphlet', which can be processed by dvipdfm > > to a good quality pdf

[Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-10-19 Thread Eitan Gurari
Page, > I took a look at this file but this sort of LaTeX coding is > way past my level of incompetence! I will be very happy if > or when you have time to modify it to create a jsmath mode! :) I'll provide a jsmath mode. Probably during the winter break. Maybe before that. > But our "acid

[Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-10-19 Thread Page, Bill
Eitan, On Saturday, October 15, 2005 2:05 PM you wrote: > Bill Page wrote: > > If I were to attempt to change the mathml.4ht config file > > myself can you suggest some documentation/tutorial to get me > > started quickly? > > Take a look at the literate source tex4ht-mathml.tex of > mathml.4ht,

[Axiom-developer] RE: tex4ht and jsmath

2005-10-15 Thread Bill Page
On October 15, 2005 11:14 AM Eitan Gurari wrote: > > I just reviewed the jsmath site and was very impressed of what > it offers. > > I think it would be an interesting exercise requiring a few days > of work to add to tex4ht a jsmath output format. It looks like > all that will be required is