Re: [open-axiom-devel] [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-18 Thread Michael.Abshoff
Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] | The name issue has already caused problems. William Stein of SAGE | believe he has Axiom installed when he actually has Fricas. Of course, both you and me cannot speak for William Stein, but there is strong evidence that he knows

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, root wrote: | I only made one request when you forked Axiom. I asked | that, as a professional courtesy, you please use your | own project name. It is called OpenAxiom. When you starts OpenAxiom-1.1.0-xxx it says OpenAxiom: The Open Scientific Computation Plat

Re: [fricas-devel] Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, root wrote: | >| >It seems to me that we have more FUD that concrete data that we can | >| >subject to rational analysis. | >| | >| Sigh. So you don't read the mailing lists. However, you'll remember | >| that Axiom was clobbered by the newer install on the windows platform.

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread root
You win. I give up. I'm tired of this pointless debate. There is no cure for the active denial of the obvious and a simple, global rename is painfully obvious. I only made one request when you forked Axiom. I asked that, as a professional courtesy, you please use your own project name. Waldek s

Re: [fricas-devel] Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread root
>| >It seems to me that we have more FUD that concrete data that we can >| >subject to rational analysis. >| >| Sigh. So you don't read the mailing lists. However, you'll remember >| that Axiom was clobbered by the newer install on the windows platform. > >You reported that you fumbled your instal

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, root wrote: | >| The name issue has already caused problems. William Stein of SAGE | >| believe he has Axiom installed when he actually has Fricas. | > | >Of course, both you and me cannot speak for William Stein, but there | >is strong evidence that he knows he has FriCAS. |

Re: [fricas-devel] Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, root wrote: | >It seems to me that we have more FUD that concrete data that we can | >subject to rational analysis. | | Sigh. So you don't read the mailing lists. However, you'll remember | that Axiom was clobbered by the newer install on the windows platform. You reported t

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread root
>| The name issue has already caused problems. William Stein of SAGE >| believe he has Axiom installed when he actually has Fricas. > >Of course, both you and me cannot speak for William Stein, but there >is strong evidence that he knows he has FriCAS. Actually the Sage .spkg was named AxiomForSag

Re: [fricas-devel] Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread root
>It seems to me that we have more FUD that concrete data that we can >subject to rational analysis. Sigh. So you don't read the mailing lists. However, you'll remember that Axiom was clobbered by the newer install on the windows platform. At minimum, since they both try to use the AXIOM shell vari

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] | The name issue has already caused problems. William Stein of SAGE | believe he has Axiom installed when he actually has Fricas. Of course, both you and me cannot speak for William Stein, but there is strong evidence that he knows he has FriCAS. -- Gaby

Re: [fricas-devel] Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, Martin Rubey wrote: | | root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | > Oh, but they DO. Try to do parallel installations. | > Being able to run Fricas and Axiom in parallel would be great. With OpenAxiom and FriCAS, one can specify their own installation directories at configure ti

Re: [fricas-devel] Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007, C Y wrote: | --- Martin Rubey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > But they wouldn't! Why would you think that any of your work was | > lost when you install axiom after having installed friCAS? | | I think the concern here is accidentally overwriting an installation of | Axiom

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread C Y
--- root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...[snip]... > >Aldor, for example - unless Tim has plans I'm not aware of Axiom > >itself won't be moving in the direction of using Aldor. > > Sigh. I replied to Bill's email a while ago that Axiom will have > aldor available. I explained at that time that

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread root
>But please answer my question: > >> Do you really want to maintain >> >> axiom.el, fricas.el, openaxiom.el, >> axiom.tm, fricas.tm, openaxiom.tm >> axiom.php, fricas.php, openaxiom.php? > Since you posted a literate file for axiom.el I have it in the queue to package it with Axiom. I have to set

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Martin Rubey
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Oh, but they DO. Try to do parallel installations. > Being able to run Fricas and Axiom in parallel would be great. I cannot see any problem running friCAS and axiom in parallel. I do it, for example (because I couldn't get Aldor to run with friCAS yet), and I

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread root
...[snip]... >Aldor, for example - unless Tim has plans I'm not aware of Axiom >itself won't be moving in the direction of using Aldor. Sigh. I replied to Bill's email a while ago that Axiom will have aldor available. I explained at that time that Bill was making a statement about Axiom that was n

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Martin Rubey
C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think the concern here is accidentally overwriting an installation of Axiom > with FriCAS, for example, or having the wrong library used due to path > confusion. In my opinion that concern is valid. So, how much work is it to reinstall axiom or friCAS, or open

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread root
>But they wouldn't! Why would you think that any of your work was >lost when you install axiom after having installed friCAS? The only >difference is, if the names wouldn't change, they wouldn't need to >adjust paths they currently don't even know about. Oh, but they DO. Try to do parallel insta

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread C Y
--- Martin Rubey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But they wouldn't! Why would you think that any of your work was > lost when you install axiom after having installed friCAS? I think the concern here is accidentally overwriting an installation of Axiom with FriCAS, for example, or having the wrong

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Martin Rubey
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It should be possible to have both systems installed, ala CMUCL and SBCL, > even though they do the same things; if only for the reason that it would > make it possible to compare results of system changes. Why should the user > suddenly lose all of their Fricas

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread root
>Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> The following patch changes installation directory from >> $PREFIX/lib/axiom to $PREFIX/lib/fricas and the name of installed >> binary from $PREFIX/bin/axiom to $PREFIX/bin/fricas. >> >> I think that we should do this change to avoid conflicts with

[Axiom-developer] Re: [fricas-devel] Installation directory

2007-12-17 Thread Martin Rubey
Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The following patch changes installation directory from > $PREFIX/lib/axiom to $PREFIX/lib/fricas and the name of installed > binary from $PREFIX/bin/axiom to $PREFIX/bin/fricas. > > I think that we should do this change to avoid conflicts with > othe