RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-27 Thread Eitan Gurari
Page, Bill writes: > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/images/book--main--1/bookvol1.tex > > As a pdf file this is about 800 pages. As html it generates nearly > 600 png files and my browsers (both FireFox and Explorer) die while > trying to render it. And the download is pretty horrendous

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Page, Bill
Eitan, On Tuesday, August 22, 2006 1:12 PM you wrote: > > > > I tried to compile the file for native dvi latex output and > > > was successful only after introducing the following disabling > > > instructions. > > > > > > \let\spadfunFrom=\empty > > > \def\spadgraph#1{} > > >

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Page, Bill
On Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:05 AM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: > .. > I remember I have seen that thing in graphviz.sty. > Nevertheless, could you send over this SAGE file. I don't > have SAGE running here. > See attachment below. > >> The \begin{axiomoutput}{somenumber} ... \end{axiomoutput} > >> e

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Eitan Gurari
> > I tried to compile the file for native dvi latex output and was > > successful only after introducing the following disabling instructions. > > > > \let\spadfunFrom=\empty > > \def\spadgraph#1{} > > \let\nwfilename=\empty > > \long\def\nwbegincode#1\nwendcode{

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
HyperDoc processes exactly the lines preceded by +++ . So the line isomorphismTypes: Set L -> Generator %; is out of reach for HyperDoc. I'd like to have ALLPROSE instead of \adthisname{} write \spadfun{isomorphismTypes}. And, if possible Would you be happy with the \addefinename{...} thin

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
I tried to compile the file for native dvi latex output and was successful only after introducing the following disabling instructions. \let\spadfunFrom=\empty \def\spadgraph#1{} \let\nwfilename=\empty \long\def\nwbegincode#1\nwendcode{} \long\def\moddef#1\endmoddef{}

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Eitan Gurari
> instead of > \begin{axiominput} > solve(x**49-49*x**4+9 = 0,1.e-49) > \end{axiominput} > \begin{axiomoutput} > ... repeat the thing above (which should be autogenerated anyway) > \end{axiomoutput} > > I have no way to simply modify a .sty or .4ht file to make that coloring > happen

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Eitan Gurari
Ralf, > I believe it would, but the problem is that I cannot easily make the > documentation smaller, because it would basically mean that I find the > problem myself. Yes, in the sense that the problem will be isolated and so its cause easier to identify. For pagination essentially one

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Martin Rubey
Ralf Hemmecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > No, I'm not. I need this in the generated .spad (or .as) file, i.e., here > > +++ \begin{addescription}{Generates all isomorphism types.} > > +++ \end{addescription} > > +++ \begin{ToDo} > > +++ \begin{rhx} 14-Aug-2006: > > +++ It is no

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
On 08/22/2006 05:26 PM, Eitan Gurari wrote: > I wouldn't care too much. tex4ht can split pages at section points (or > in fact anywhere you like). Unfortunately, for some strange reason I do > not get it to work with ALLPROSE. Maybe I haven't tried hard enough. And > it was not so urgent

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
On 08/22/2006 05:26 PM, root wrote: Well, maybe we should start with dhmatrix. I somehow agree with you and Eitan. Writing TeX should not be considered the best way of writing a .pamphlet file. LaTeX is so much more structured that it is easier to convert to other formats. One cannot do all the

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread root
> Quite doable. Now, the question is: Are Axiom developers and > users really motivated to use this sort of thing?? probably i am; but i can't figure out what 'this sort of thing' is. *) what are you trying to achieve? *) where can i see examples *) what are the benefits/cost? *) what tools do i

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
On 08/22/2006 04:20 PM, Martin Rubey wrote: Ralf Hemmecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] in that chunk, then that corresponds to \atthistype. (And, yes Martin, that can be replaced on the fly by the appropriate \adtype{DomainName}, GREAT! could you send me an appropriate patch, please. The

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread root
> Well, maybe we should start with dhmatrix. I somehow agree with you and > Eitan. Writing TeX should not be considered the best way of writing a > .pamphlet file. LaTeX is so much more structured that it is easier to > convert to other formats. One cannot do all the TeX tricks and outputs > eq

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Eitan Gurari
> I wouldn't care too much. tex4ht can split pages at section points (or > in fact anywhere you like). Unfortunately, for some strange reason I do > not get it to work with ALLPROSE. Maybe I haven't tried hard enough. And > it was not so urgent to me. It should be easy for me to identify

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Eitan Gurari
> to significant, but I just did a few experiments using htlatex on > > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/images/book--main--1/bookvol1.tex I tried to compile the file for native dvi latex output and was successful only after introducing the following disabling instructions. \let\spadf

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Martin Rubey
Ralf Hemmecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> [...] in that chunk, then that corresponds to \atthistype. (And, yes > >> Martin, > >> that can be replaced on the fly by the appropriate \adtype{DomainName}, > > GREAT! could you send me an appropriate patch, please. Then I can document > > my > >

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Maybe, I am wrong, but for me DHMATRIX is just a domain. A library is something like libaldor, libalgebra, libaxiom. I don't think there is much (formal) difference between a domain and a library. If one domain for you makes a library, so be it. But for me a library covers a certain small are

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Martin Rubey
Hi Ralf, Ralf Hemmecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Aha. Maybe you were misled. no, I don't think so. > In some sense you are right that I would like such a system for all of > Axiom. [...] Yes, but I think that converting the algebra to allprose would be a good start. > >> And as Bill point

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Hi Martin, On 08/22/2006 02:45 PM, Martin Rubey wrote: Ralf Hemmecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin wrote: why won't we use ALLPROSE? I simply have the suspicion that Martin talks about pamphlet files of the form .spad.pamphlet and anybody else means pamphlets with general content s

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/images/book--main--1/bookvol1.tex As a pdf file this is about 800 pages. As html it generates nearly 600 png files and my browsers (both FireFox and Explorer) die while trying to render it. And the download is pretty horrendous anyway :( htlatex indicates a large

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Martin Rubey
Ralf Hemmecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Martin wrote: > > why won't we use ALLPROSE? > I simply have the suspicion that Martin talks about pamphlet files of the form > .spad.pamphlet and anybody else means pamphlets with general content so also > .lisp.pamphlet or Makefile.pamphlet. Am I wr

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Anyway, would it be a good start to take dhmatrix. We could tex->latex it while we try to get an html out of it. The one thing I don't understand about all this is: why won't we use ALLPROSE? All the current pamphlet stuff is legacy code. It simply doesn't fit so easily into ALLPROSE, yet ma

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Page, Bill
Ralf, Thanks for the explanations about .4ht etc. On Tuesday, August 22, 2006 5:09 AM you wrote: > ... > Bill Page wrote: > > When generating .html with embedded images for the formula > > where do the image files go? Subdirectory? Since there will > > be multiple pamphlet files on the wiki, we

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Martin Rubey
Dear Ralf, Ralf Hemmecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anyway, would it be a good start to take dhmatrix. We could tex->latex it > while > we try to get an html out of it. The one thing I don't understand about all this is: why won't we use ALLPROSE? > On Monday, August 21, 2006 1:08 PM Marti

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
If for the purpose of translating that file to html you provide an appropriate axiom.sty (and axiom.4ht) which can be different from the current existing axiom.sty, then I believe that should be doable. Sorry, I've forgotten most of what I once knew about tex4ht. :) Of course we want only one so

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-22 Thread Page, Bill
Eitan, On Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:03 AM you wrote: > > I added a pointer to instructions at the end of the first > paragraph in > >http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/bugfixes.html > > Hopefully they are not buggy. > Thank you! I feel a little more human now. :) and I've now

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-21 Thread Eitan Gurari
> I am "scratching > my head" ... how do I update my installation? Bill, I added a pointer to instructions at the end of the first paragraph in http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/bugfixes.html Hopefully they are not buggy. -eitan

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-21 Thread Page, Bill
On Monday, August 21, 2006 10:21 PM Eitan Gurari wrote: > ... > > Eitan Gurari was also working on a jsMath version of tex4ht. > > I am not sure of the status of that version. > > A jsmath configuration for tex4ht went public on 21 Dec 2005 (see > http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/bu

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-21 Thread Eitan Gurari
> > \documentclass{article} > > \usepackage{axiom} > > \begin{document} > > ... > > \end{document} > What is axiom.4ht? Can it be present in the source .tex even > if I just run latex to get the standard dvi, ps, and pdf? The \usepackage{axiom} instruction requests a general purpose style

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-21 Thread Page, Bill
Ralf, On Monday, August 21, 2006 6:15 PM you wrote: > > On 08/21/2006 04:43 PM, Bill Page wrote: > > Martin, > > > > On August 21, 2006 4:01 AM you wrote: > >> Bill Page writes: > >>> As you know, pamphlet files on MathAction are treated a > >>> little differently with only a "thumbnail" displa

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-21 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
On 08/21/2006 04:43 PM, Bill Page wrote: Martin, On August 21, 2006 4:01 AM you wrote: Bill Page writes: As you know, pamphlet files on MathAction are treated a little differently with only a "thumbnail" displayed on the web page containing links to the pdf and dvi format generated by LaTeX.

RE: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-21 Thread Bill Page
Martin, On August 21, 2006 4:01 AM you wrote: > > Bill Page writes: > > As you know, pamphlet files on MathAction are treated a > > little differently with only a "thumbnail" displayed on > > the web page containing links to the pdf and dvi format > > generated by LaTeX. Originally we had plann

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: Another question

2006-08-21 Thread Martin Rubey
"Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As you know, pamphlet files on MathAction are treated a little differently > with only a "thumbnail" displayed on the web page containing links to the pdf > and dvi format generated by LaTeX. Originally we had planned to use TeX4ht > to produce a web page