RE: [RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML]

2003-03-20 Thread Mike Burati
Title: RE: [RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML]    > is the WSTK for free or is it an eval copy?   According to the WSTK pages (which you should check out yourself, for license restrictions etc and for any recent changes), the answer is "yes"  it is a free eval, fo

RE: [RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML]

2003-03-20 Thread Nisha Menon
Title: RE: [RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML] i've just tried downloading the toolkit a few minutes ago. [one heavy download it is! so the process is still on!] since it's a dissertation i'm working on, i may have some issues with it being a trial version. is th

RE: [RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML]

2003-03-20 Thread Anne Thomas Manes
IBM WSTK. It's based on Axis. > -Original Message- > From: Nisha Menon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 8:28 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML] > > > Hi Mitch, > Any lu

RE: [RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML]

2003-03-20 Thread Nisha Menon
WS security and SAML] Is anyone aware of a Java implementation of WS-Security? Furthermore, is anyone aware of an implementation that can be used with Axis? I would guess IBM has one since they have been a leader on the spec, but I don't know. The only WS-Security API I'm aware of

RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML

2003-03-19 Thread Anne Thomas Manes
Title: RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML You should define your security header in the WSDL , but you still need a business agreement regarding what mechanisms to use. -Original Message-From: Nisha Menon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:03

RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML

2003-03-18 Thread Nisha Menon
Title: RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML is security information ever a part of WSDL? i mean when one application wants to interact with another through a webservice, is it a business agreement to follow a particular authentication/authorization mechanism/ scheme or is it defined

RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML

2003-03-18 Thread Anne Thomas Manes
Title: RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML Nisha,   As I mentioned below, when using WS-Security, you must write a header processor (an Axis handler) that takes the SAML token and maps it to a principal, and then use JAAS to check authorization. I'm assuming that your Web servi

RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML

2003-03-18 Thread Nisha Menon
Title: RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML thanks so much for all that information anne.. helps me to a great extent to have your input!   but what would the required components be if i were to start implementing a webservices authentication module (considering ofcourse that i&#x

RE: [RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML]

2003-03-18 Thread KUMAR,PANKAJ (HP-Cupertino,ex1)
Title: Re: [RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML] TSIK1.7 claims to have WS-Security support. Look at samplesoap example. Not sure if it would work with Axis. Also, TSIK is not opensource (doesn't include source code).   /Pankaj. -Original Message-From: Nisha

RE: [RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML]

2003-03-18 Thread Nisha Menon
Title: Re: [RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML] oh yes! would anyone know of an implementation that can be used with axis? would be dandy to get my hands on that code! :-) -Original Message- From: Mitch Gitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 3/17/2003 10:11 PM

RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML

2003-03-17 Thread Anne Thomas Manes
Ricky Ho asked: > Can I use SAML for just Authorization Authority ? Yes. You need to send your authorization authority certain information so that it can make a decision: some authentication information and some information that identifies the resource being accessed. Although I suspect that most

RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML

2003-03-17 Thread Anne Thomas Manes
ilto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:26 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML > > > Hi Anne, > > You touch on some interesting points. I agree that one can implement > authentication or authorization

RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML

2003-03-17 Thread Ricky Ho
One of the primary reasons why you might want to use SAML is to support single sign-on. But if you don't have a SAML authentication authority, then you probably don't want to use SAML. Can I use SAML for just Authorization Authority ? But you don't need to use either SAML or WS-Security to implem

RE: [RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML]

2003-03-17 Thread Anne Thomas Manes
I believe that IBM WSTK supports WS-Security. see http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/webservicestoolkit > -Original Message- > From: Mitch Gitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:41 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [RE: Authorization us

Re: [RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML]

2003-03-17 Thread Mitch Gitman
Is anyone aware of a Java implementation of WS-Security? Furthermore, is anyone aware of an implementation that can be used with Axis? I would guess IBM has one since they have been a leader on the spec, but I don't know. The only WS-Security API I'm aware of comes with Microsoft's Web Services Enh

RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML

2003-03-17 Thread Naresh Bhatia
al Message- From: Anne Thomas Manes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 9:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML SAML provides a standard XML format to express and exchange security assertions. Assertions come in three flavors: auth

RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML

2003-03-17 Thread Anne Thomas Manes
authorization. Anne > -Original Message- > From: Nisha Menon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 5:25 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML > > > > Yip... I get it now... :-) > > Ok so here's the de

RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML

2003-03-17 Thread Nisha Menon
rds, Nisha -Original Message- From: Ricky Ho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML I haven't closely track the OASIS activity. They are supposed to standar

RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML

2003-03-17 Thread Nisha Menon
rds, Nisha -Original Message- From: Ricky Ho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML I haven't closely track the OASIS activity. They are supposed to standar

RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML

2003-03-17 Thread Nisha Menon
ards, Nisha -Original Message- From: Ricky Ho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML I haven't closely track the OASIS activity. They are supposed to standar

RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML

2003-03-16 Thread Ricky Ho
sha -Original Message- From: Ricky Ho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 10:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Authorization using WS security and SAML SAML is about specifying the XML format of your authorization decision outcome (authorization a

RE: Authorization using WS security and SAML

2003-03-16 Thread Nisha Menon
inal Message- From: Ricky Ho [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 10:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Authorization using WS security and SAML SAML is about specifying the XML format of your authorization decision outcome (authorization assertion). It

Re: Authorization using WS security and SAML

2003-03-16 Thread Davanum Srinivas
http://www.opensaml.org/ http://www.xmltrustcenter.org/developer/verisign/tsik/download.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tsik/ --- Nisha Menon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: - Webservice design hi, i am trying to create an authorization module for web services that i

Re: Authorization using WS security and SAML

2003-03-16 Thread Ricky Ho
SAML is about specifying the XML format of your authorization decision outcome (authorization assertion). It also defines a protocol how to request the assertion. SAML doesn't describe how the decision should be made. XACML is attempting to standardize how such decision rules should be speci