[Ayatana] Battery is charged popup in GDM screen!!

Il 16/07/2009 19:46, Mike Rooney ha scritto: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > I am using karmic, g-p-m version 2.27.2. I istinctively clicked on "do not > show this notification anymore" so I don't know how to bring it back to > check if

Re: [Ayatana] Battery is charged popup

Il 16/07/2009 15:00, Steve Dodier ha scritto: Hi, Was it on Jaunty / Karmic ? What version of gnome-power-manager ? In my opinion it's a bug that should be reported : * "Battery full" notifications shouldn't have an action associated to it Anyway, I don't think these "battery full" notificati

[Ayatana] Battery is charged popup

Hi all, today after upgrading the system I had a popup telling me that the battery was fully charged. I could dismiss the notification by clicking ok on it. Is it a bug? If not, what is the rationale behind requiring me to explicitly click a button when my battery is charged? A non blocking n

Re: [Ayatana] Pleasant Updates for karmic - Papercut

mac_v ha scritto: Scott Kitterman wrote: On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:12:24 +0530 mac_v wrote: So is there a way to mark the packages which require reboot , and Not start them during the boot , but to update them and this would just *delay the boot by a few seconds during which the present i

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

Paulo J. S. Silva ha scritto: Em Ter, 2009-07-07 às 11:14 +0200, Steve Dodier escreveu: I know that in most cases this is not needed since the update will happen well, but i think its better to make users expect to have to act. If their mirror goes down, if debconf asks if a file should be m

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

Il 07/07/2009 17:50, Vincenzo Ciancia ha scritto: Il 07/07/2009 17:40, Mark Shuttleworth ha scritto: What about putting up a notification when someone goes into fullscreen mode that notifications are enabled and will be displayed, as a reminder that they might want to disable them? This was

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

Il 07/07/2009 17:40, Mark Shuttleworth ha scritto: What about putting up a notification when someone goes into fullscreen mode that notifications are enabled and will be displayed, as a reminder that they might want to disable them? Mark The subthread "solving the 'user forgets about presen

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

Il 07/07/2009 17:40, Mark Shuttleworth ha scritto: What about putting up a notification when someone goes into fullscreen mode that notifications are enabled and will be displayed, as a reminder that they might want to disable them? This was just discussed in another thread, with he _

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

Il 07/07/2009 17:34, Sohail Mirza ha scritto: Weighed against the configuration set and dialogues being proposing, I still think that "full-screen = I'm busy" is a reasonable assumption to make with the vast majority of the user population. I would venture a guess that most users don't even use

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

Il 07/07/2009 16:39, Sohail Mirza ha scritto: The limitations of the form-factor may require entirely a different solution to common problems. This much is apparent when comparing Ubuntu Desktop to Ubuntu Netbook Remix. The EEEPC 1000HE has a 10'' screen on which the default gnome desktop is

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

Il 07/07/2009 15:35, Alex Launi ha scritto: I know many people who do this. Netbook users do this all the time. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Mo

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

Il 07/07/2009 15:29, Sohail Mirza ha scritto: I hope I'm not missing anything in my analysis. Is there a use-case of a full-screen application that does not offer window maximization as an alternative? We talked about movies. I may be just watching a movie alone and want to be available for

Re: [Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

Il 07/07/2009 15:19, Praveen ha scritto: hmm.. not a bad idea though one must consider that this one initial notification will be always displayed whenever one goes fullscreen. so if i watch a lot of movies or am review/editing a presentation i would be going to fullscreen and back so many many t

[Ayatana] Solving the "user forgets about presentation mode" problem! (was Re: notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors)

Il 07/07/2009 15:07, Praveen ha scritto: no please don't do such a thing. it takes away a lot of benefits of the new messaging system. ie i can from the notification know what the other person has to say and hence decide if i want to open the chat window now or later. Also if the messages should

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

Il 07/07/2009 13:30, Martín Soto ha scritto: I see a big one: you can easily forget activating the do-not-disturb thing, or deactivating it later. For example, unless you're a very experienced speaker, you're likely to be nervous before starting a presentation. This increases the probability tha

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

Il 07/07/2009 12:55, mac_v ha scritto: Why do they have to wait! there is no need , it is just install+shutdown! User just selected install and shutdown! I just don't trust the system enough to guarantee it will shut down, and don't trust an old laptop I use at office enough to be sure that it

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

Martín Soto ha scritto: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Steve Dodier > wrote: What about console-presenter and evince / other PDF viewers ? They're used too for presentations. I don't think we can maintain an exhaustive list of applications, so maybe we sh

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

Mark Shuttleworth ha scritto: Alex Launi wrote: On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Mark Shuttleworth > wrote: Updates-on-login are interesting, but I think fatally flawed because of the common requirement to reboot after updates. This is actually the case where up

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Notification in fullscreen apps

On lun, 2009-07-06 at 22:33 +0530, Praveen wrote: > > > > I recently read the karmic-notify-osd proposal and it has a section > for what is to done when applications are fullscreen, it currently > states that non-critical bubbles must be suppressed. > > Are notifications from pidgin/empathy co

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login

On sab, 2009-07-04 at 15:31 -0300, Paulo J. S. Silva wrote: > > That is a good point. However, the likelihood of a failure in a > security > update that doesn't allow for a clean shutdown is very low (it never > happened to me and I use Linux since 1994). I know that perhaps it is overkill to ta

Re: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines

On mar, 2009-06-23 at 19:13 +0200, Nicolò Chieffo wrote: > > as I was saying 2.27.3 is already old. > You need to be synchronized to a current git version of empathy, > weather it is self compiled or from an external PPA. > ah, ok so I will not test the PPA :) Didn't check the version number. >

Re: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines

On mar, 2009-06-23 at 19:00 +0200, Sense Hofstede wrote: > > > > Hello, > > There is an PPA at . > Unfortunately it gives you 2.27.2, instead of the latest 2.27.3. It is > a start, though, and I expect 2.27.3 to be uploaded soon. Very kind of you. W

Re: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines

On mar, 2009-06-23 at 16:58 +0100, Andrew Sayers wrote: > > Could you give us some idea of when a testable version will land in > Karmic? We've got two months left until the final decision on > whether > this becomes as significant a part of Ubuntu as Firefox or > OpenOffice, > so it would be

Re: [Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines

On mar, 2009-06-23 at 18:04 +0200, Nicolò Chieffo wrote: > > Sayers wrote: > > who don't feel like compiling their IM client from source every day. > > you are definitely right, anyway now empathy is actively developed, > and the only way to test it is git > > Nah. I already wast enough resour

[Ayatana] Empathy is not in line with the much discussed guidelines

[CC-ing ayatana, if this is wrong just tell me] Today I tried empathy on my karmic testing system. Here are the scores. The last part IS VERY IMPORTANT please read it too. Don't thake my comments as angry, I'm just in a hurry. +1 The first time I launch it, it offers me to import accounts from

Re: [Ayatana] System / hardware indicator

Il giorno mar, 16/06/2009 alle 15.48 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia ha scritto: > On 16/06/2009 Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > > > Ted Gould has been a proponent of a system / hardware indicator, and > > I've been working on how to handle things like USB-unmount and > >

Re: [Ayatana] What most people would find useful (was: Re: Updates on Login )

Il giorno gio, 18/06/2009 alle 18.25 -0400, Scott Kitterman ha scritto: > These would also probably need some > additional QA to reduce the risk for users installing the update with > no > chance to consider if it would be a good update for them. I will trust no human on that :) If you have a w

Re: [Ayatana] Mumbles Brings (More) Growl-Like Notifications to Linux

Il giorno mer, 17/06/2009 alle 11.35 -0700, ajmctaggart ha scritto: > I am sure many of you have already seen this, I for one have not. > Seems like it would be of interest to those working on > notifications... > > http://lifehacker.com/5293943/mumbles-brings-more-growl > +like-notifications-to-l

Re: [Ayatana] Idea: letting users of the testing distribution participate in testing and report feedback on different UI choices if they wish

Il giorno mer, 17/06/2009 alle 19.23 +0200, Martín Soto ha scritto: > 2009/6/16 Vincenzo Ciancia > If we manage to come this far (and I hope we do at some point) this is > already a usability experiment. We'd have to design it properly > though, so that results can be considere

Re: [Ayatana] Updates on Login (was: Re: [Fwd: Update manager])

Il giorno mer, 17/06/2009 alle 09.26 -0500, David Siegel ha scritto: > I auto-login, so I would not use this feature, but let's not > think of gurus like us The argument "that's for gurus" or "power users" keeps popping up :) This can not be applied here: auto-login is enabled by checking an inno

Re: [Ayatana] Idea: letting users of the testing distribution participate in testing and report feedback on different UI choices if they wish

Martín Soto ha scritto: 2009/6/16 Vincenzo Ciancia <mailto:cian...@di.unipi.it>> Please, let's keep the "this is something that only power user like/dislike" old argument out of this discussion. I see this is not your intention, but as we are all power us

Re: [Ayatana] Getting users to care (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Update manager])

Il giorno mar, 16/06/2009 alle 17.17 +0200, Martín Soto ha scritto: > > > Would you mind showing us some evidence of said "overwhelmingly > negatively" reaction? > From what I've seen on the mailing lists so far, those complaining > about the update pop-under mostly belong to a small, ye

Re: [Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Update manager] - a secure way to ask for information

Il giorno mar, 16/06/2009 alle 19.52 +0530, mac_v ha scritto: > Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > It would be logical to use this in the modal window that asks for the > password... > When it is in the modal window ,the user will recognize the difference > while entering the password.

Re: [Ayatana] System / hardware indicator

On 16/06/2009 Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Ted Gould has been a proponent of a system / hardware indicator, and I've been working on how to handle things like USB-unmount and Bluetooth-connect and am coming round to the idea. What do you guys think? If there's support for the idea, we could do a

Re: [Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Update manager] - a secure way to ask for information

On 16/06/2009 Paulo J. S. Silva wrote: Thinking a little bit more about Vincenzo suggestion. It is not clear to me how the application that is asking for root access can present some information that is only readable by root. Anyhow, this is a security problem and maybe we are getting off topic

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Getting users to care (was Re: [Fwd: Re: Update manager])

On 16/06/2009 Natan Yellin wrote: This relates to an idea I had at UDS about ubuntu-bug, it would be really sweet if we could tie ubuntu-bug and update-manager together, so what when a bug you're subscribed to is fixed in an update, you get some kind of feedback from update-manager. For m

Re: [Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Update manager] - a secure way to ask for information

On 16/06/2009 Natan Yellin wrote: A few websites use a similar trick and display a custom image which the user chooses. I think it's a bit of a better solution than using a phrase, because people are more likely to notice if it changes. Hmm, if I enter "fatti non fummo a viver come bruti" and

Re: [Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Update manager] - a secure way to ask for information

On 16/06/2009 mac_v wrote: In no way the system should decide what windows it can open... If this is allowed it is only a matter of time before someone develops a worm which uses this behavior and pops-up a window similar to the update manager which also asks for the user password allowing the

Re: [Ayatana] [Fwd: Re: Update manager]

On 16/06/2009 Ryan Prior wrote: I don't see the popups as intrusive. No information is being sent outside the computer. A window is being opened so that you see it, because it very important and it absolutely needs your attention. It's not as though some foreign entity is intruding upon your com

Re: [Ayatana] a "radically different" solution for updates and reboot requests

Il giorno lun, 15/06/2009 alle 11.09 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia ha scritto: > > > I originarily wanted to add comments to the wiki page, but it is > oriented to notifications while this is a specific idea for the > notification manager, so I finally deleted it from the wiki and

[Ayatana] a "radically different" solution for updates and reboot requests

Paulo J. S. Silva ha scritto: Hi, Sorry for the long message, must I need to set some context before going to the point. I am trying to bring the discussion on update-manger changes, with its new pop-under behavior to this forum as suggested in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/updat

Re: [Ayatana] Yip: An Unified Notification System for the Web

Il giorno mer, 10/06/2009 alle 20.14 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia ha scritto: > Il giorno mer, 10/06/2009 alle 16.42 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth ha > scritto: > > > > > > > Right - that's why it's useful to think about having the messaging > > indicator exposed

Re: [Ayatana] Yip: An Unified Notification System for the Web

Il giorno mer, 10/06/2009 alle 16.42 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth ha scritto: > > > > Right - that's why it's useful to think about having the messaging > indicator exposed too, because it addresses the primary uses cases > that drove click-on-notifications. > > Mark Are you still, and will you alw

Re: [Ayatana] Yip: An Unified Notification System for the Web

Il giorno mer, 10/06/2009 alle 12.16 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth ha scritto: > Jorge O. Castro wrote: > > Thought it might be of interest to this list: > > http://abcdefu.wordpress.com/2009/06/09/introducing-yip-an-unified-notification-system-for-the-web/ > > > Looks interesting. Anyone interested

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd + fullscreen + multiple monitors

Il giorno ven, 05/06/2009 alle 12.00 +0200, Aurélien Gâteau ha scritto: > > Someone on the bug report suggested to tie the display of > notifications > to the FUSA applet, so that notifications would not be shown if you > set > your presence to "Do not Disturb". I think this is a very nice idea, >

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

Il giorno gio, 04/06/2009 alle 11.00 -0700, Mike Rooney ha scritto: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > > What I mean is that we need a mode ("busy" in FUSA would be just nice) > > where the actions that the computer takes are under the control o

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

Il giorno gio, 04/06/2009 alle 13.19 -0400, Jacob Peddicord ha scritto: > > Wouldn't the proper way to remedy this would be to close communication > applications during a presentation? I won't disagree that disabling > notifications for a time would be useful, but if you don't want Pidgin > trigge

Re: [Ayatana] Things I have noticed

Il giorno gio, 04/06/2009 alle 22.11 +0530, mac_v ha scritto: > > > but there needs to be a way to dismiss the notify-osd , in case the > bubbles are a disturbance to workflow. > > If user receives a mail/im/buddy notification during a presentation,he > is forced to move the pointer to the bubbl

Re: [Ayatana] Notifications are annoying when typing in the upper right corner of a window

Il giorno mar, 02/06/2009 alle 17.42 -0700, Scott Ritchie ha scritto: > > If I'm playing Frozen Bubble I want to be notified, even though I'm > using my keyboard constantly. Even if I don't want to interrupt my > game, I may find it very strange that the notification I just got for > an > instant

Re: [Ayatana] Notifications are annoying when typing in the upper right corner of a window

Il giorno mar, 02/06/2009 alle 09.26 -0700, Mike Rooney ha scritto: > imagine > playing a flash game My point is just that motion-eye coordination is harder than other tasks and distracting the eye during this is not wise. While you are playing a flash game perhaps the last thing you want is to re

Re: [Ayatana] Notifications are annoying when typing in the upper right corner of a window

Il giorno lun, 01/06/2009 alle 21.59 +0200, Mark Shuttleworth ha scritto: > > > That sounds very useful - both dropdowns and menus have "brittle > state", it's hard to recover from a slip except by reproducing the > actions that setup that point in the interaction. I'd be +1 on > deferring, at lea

Re: [Ayatana] Notifications are annoying when typing in the upper right corner of a window

Il giorno lun, 01/06/2009 alle 11.55 -0400, Celeste Lyn Paul ha scritto: > On Monday 01 June 2009 11:19:31 am Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > > Il giorno lun, 01/06/2009 alle 10.30 -0400, Celeste Lyn Paul ha scritto: > > > kwin can also know when a dropdown or context menu

Re: [Ayatana] Pidgin notifications flood on slow internet connections

Il giorno lun, 01/06/2009 alle 16.26 +0100, Przemek Kulczycki ha scritto: > > I'm using a 3G modem connection and I've noticed that Pidgin makes a > flood of notifications (Xxx is available) once it connects to > Jabber/XMPP /other protocols. > These notifications last for at least 2 minutes becau

Re: [Ayatana] Notifications are annoying when typing in the upper right corner of a window

Il giorno lun, 01/06/2009 alle 10.30 -0400, Celeste Lyn Paul ha scritto: > > kwin can also know when a dropdown or context menu is open. i've been > looking > into the possibility of delaying notifications which occur during > these types > of interactions for n seconds. several researcher group

Re: [Ayatana] Notifications are annoying when typing in the upper right corner of a window

Il giorno lun, 01/06/2009 alle 15.34 +0200, Mark Shuttleworth ha scritto: > > > > It's a good idea, but that's outside the capabilities of X today, > would require major surgery to address, and there are other > initiatives that would give more immediate gratification. Doesn't kde already do suc

[Ayatana] Notifications are annoying when typing in the upper right corner of a window

Hi all, sorry if this problem has already been brought up. I noticed that the new notifications (but also whatever kind of notification you may think of) are extremely annoying when typing. My use case is: an open chat window, and a full screen firefox. Typical for me. Pidgin issues notifications

Re: [Ayatana] notify-osd feedback

Il giorno lun, 27/04/2009 alle 15.47 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth ha scritto: > Martin Pitt wrote: > > Hello, > > > > just received an interesting comment about notify-osd, and some > > deficiencies which come up a lot: > > > > > > http://martinpitt.wordpress.com/2009/02/23/the-stracciatella-gnom