Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] URL

2010-07-13 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Shirley, *PAGAMENTO EM US DÓLARES (47,00 USD por cada exemplar enviado pelo Correio). * It says: "Payment in US Dollars ($47.00 USD each book expedited/sent by mail)" It also says the U$47 already includes postage and shipping envelope. Margaret On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Shirley Ser

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Agua de Pau - word negrete

2010-07-13 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hello Doug, You're quite right in that I have seen the below mentioned references on various documents, however I am also open to the possibility that some priests may have been more sensitive than others by avoiding such "labels" and instead used other forms of reference. I have since come acros

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria de Medeiros, Agua do Pau, Sao Miguel

2010-07-13 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hello Celeste, Thank you for the sending your ascending line. Yes, we share common ancestors in; Antonio da Costa married to Maria de Medeiros. Who are the parents, among others, of: Monica de Medeiros married to Jeronimo Ferreira and (my 6th gg) Antonia de Medeiros married to Jose de Melo Nab

[AZORES-Genealogy] URL

2010-07-13 Thread Shirley Sereque
http://casaisdasflores.no.comunidades.net/ I just went to the link and from my limited Portuguese, I got the impression that I have to pay $4 for each name I send in. And the only copy is in a library in Horta. Is that correct? - Shirl - No virus found in this incoming messa

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Peter REGO b. Sant Cruz Lagoa 10 January 1874

2010-07-13 Thread Marjorie Perry
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Agua de Pau - word negrete

2010-07-13 Thread Douglas Borba
Hello Margaret, Here's my two-bits worth: The priests used either 'escravo,' or 'forro' (free man). I have never seen them use the word 'negro. Also, I have seen 'da nação,' or 'Bantu,' 'da Angola,' or other tribe or region. Also, in those times Blacks did not get a surname. So, although I'm

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia

2010-07-13 Thread Patricia Butcher
Hi Nancy Jean, Looking through my files, I have a Frank Gracia from Fairhaven, Ma, b. Sept 12, 1894, d. Jan 1969, Fairhaven. (from SS index) that was married to Mary Perry Souza Gracia, my first cousin 1x removed. My cousin, Mary's first husband was Manuel Souza. (no dates) The dates don't mat

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: negrete

2010-07-13 Thread Sam Koester
JR; Hopefully sometime in the future we will all be of such mixed blood, it would be impossible for anyone to discriminate due to color. I certainly agree with you when it comes to diversity and the strength of a people. I was only trying to point out a possible reason for the use of the word "

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia

2010-07-13 Thread "E" Sharp
Nancy, WWII Draft Registration record: Frank Sores Gracie, 55, b. June 29, 1886, b. Azores, living at 22 Cottage St., Dartmouth MA, contact Lillian Gracie There is a Frank S. Gracie 3rd, living 2002 in NB. Let me know if you want his address. I believe you have Ancestry. There is a US Passpor

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] negrete

2010-07-13 Thread Linda Norton
It's been a standing joke with my husband who always says I'm black because of my dark skin color and that we brought the slaves over from Africa so we have black blood. I let it go, but I always say we navigated the ships that brought them over, but never did the trade, it was the English that did

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii

2010-07-13 Thread Shirley Allegre
Who are you looking for? I can probably help here. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: eric edgar To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ships Records/Hawaii Jacki, The date on the file card of Jun

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Agua de Pau - word negrete

2010-07-13 Thread Karlushko
I would take it as a surname, because at that time if negrete meant negro, it would have said he or she would have been slave. It doesnt mention slave there. Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA Pesquisando: Alemanha, Belgica, Brasil, Luxemburgo, Italia, Portugal, Açores, Espanha Agueda,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Peter REGO b. Sant Cruz Lagoa 10 January 1874

2010-07-13 Thread Shirley Allegre
Hi Marge: I looked for your Pedro in Santa Cruz-Lagoa. I looked on film 1438007. I looked from January 1872 - through 1877. This is the only PEDRO that I found. _ This is what I found: #17, page 8 left Pedro EXPOSTO (orphan) Orphan in this village a

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Gracia

2010-07-13 Thread nancy jean baptiste
Hi "E", I have no idea if they stayed in the US.I've checked Gracia and Grace and I'll look for them as Garcia. Thanks for the suggestion. I don't know if they stayed in Mass. or anything else about them. I was hoping maybe someone on the list had one of the children as a grandparent

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Gracia

2010-07-13 Thread "E" Sharp
Nancy, Do you know for sure if they remained in the US? You might also check under Garcia. My husband had a very good friend here in CA named Bill Gracia and sometimes people spelled his name Garcia which did not make him too happy. "E" -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Gracia

2010-07-13 Thread nancy jean baptiste
Thanks Eugenia, It's a beautiful name. I've searched most of today for more clues to where they went after 1926 but they've disappeared! Best regards, Nancy > Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 13:01:41 -0700 > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Gracia > From: eugenia...@yahoo.com > To: azores@goo

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Gracia

2010-07-13 Thread Eugenia
Nancy, I check my database on Portuguese Names and Their Meanings and found the following on GRACIA: I hope this helps with your research. Eugenia Grácia - Feminine name. Grácia - This is a name commonly used in Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese. Given name. Information is from: BASIC PO

[AZORES-Genealogy] Maria de Medeiros, Agua do Pau, Sao Miguel

2010-07-13 Thread celeste perry
Margaret & Hermano,    I have Antonio da Costa and Maria de Medeiros that may be a match to your Monica de Medeiros.  Do you think this is Monica's sister?  Celeste, Hayward, CA Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@goog

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: negrete

2010-07-13 Thread rfrancispimentel
Hi All My father's maternal line was tested for Mtdna and the results came back with haplogroup L2 which is early African in origins. I have only been able to trace the line to 1711 so far. I suspect it is mostly Moorish but only research will tell. I need to work some more on that line. Rick R

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Agua de Pau - word negrete

2010-07-13 Thread Hermano C. Pires
Hello Margaret Antonio is my 1st cousin 5x removed so as you say there is a connecton. I haven't been able to see what the attachment you sent contains, all I get is a sort of a table form with no info in it. Thanks for sending it anyway. I do not have any more information than the followi

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: negrete

2010-07-13 Thread JR
Whether we descend directly from known slaves or not (many white, not black), we all likely have some "black" blood (whatever that is), not to mention Moorish, Spanish, Celtic, Roman and so on. It is diversity that has been our strength and that has enabled us to survive. This is true of all living

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Duarte

2010-07-13 Thread Joaquin Mendonca
Eric, Thank you for the offer, but I have forwarded the info from Cheri to the daughter. They are going to get a copy of the obituary and hopes it has some info they can use. Jack -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation d

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] negrete

2010-07-13 Thread Sam Koester
Just as an aside; I am Azorean Portuguese on both sides of my family. From what I have found going back to the early 1800's, late 1700's, I have no black blood. Back in the day when Afro wigs were in style, I wore them and I would tan so dark that I was mistaken for a black person by other black p

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracia

2010-07-13 Thread nancy jean baptiste
Thanks Eric for the additional info regarding them. I'll continue to look for records for any of the children and parents but I haven't seen death records or anything else. Is there a way to verify if someone left the country and went back to the Azores? Seems unlikely, but why are there no tra

Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Agua de Pau - word negrete

2010-07-13 Thread Joao S. Lopes
Sometimes the "alcunha" was turned into a familiar surname. I found many examples in my researches. De: Margaret Vicente Para: azores@googlegroups.com Enviadas: Terça-feira, 13 de Julho de 2010 0:21:13 Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fwd: Agua de Pau - word

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Duarte

2010-07-13 Thread Eric Gomes
Jack, Has anyone looked this up for you yet? If not, I can go up to Cal State Hayward in the near future and see what I can find in their newspaper archives. Eric On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Jack, > > A-ha! I found it on the Alameda County, CA USGenWeb site: > > *New

[AZORES-Genealogy] negrete

2010-07-13 Thread Shirley Sereque
A girlfriend's son-in-law is quite dark, almost dark brown. He isn't a "black" but a dark Portuguese with curly hair to die for. ;-) - Shirl - -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more