RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with names in this record

2014-02-14 Thread mnk
Looks Manuel Cesar Furtado got it right! MNK -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and

[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a word

2014-02-14 Thread Maria Lima
On the left side for the marriage of Antonio de Lima and Francisca Roza, can someone decipher the very first word on the seventh sentence from the bottom(?)please?It looks like namebo (?) The sentence just before that word gives the name of Francisca's father. It says Manoel de Sousa

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Andre de Carvalho Beatriz Ferreira Ginetes 1635-17??

2014-02-14 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Thanks Marcio, In relooking at the records this morning I see how I was off, a more careful examination of the surrounding records confirm you are correct. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marcio

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with names in this record

2014-02-14 Thread Marcio Borba
Cândido, son of Francisco Jose Botelho and Januaria Jacinta, natives of S. Roque do Rosto de Cão, paternal grandaughter of Jose Francisco Botelho and Genoveva Rosa, and maternal of Manuel de Benevides and Sebastiana da Conceiçao   Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit

[AZORES-Genealogy] Amaro de Medeiros Vicencia de Pimentel from Vila Franca do Campo

2014-02-14 Thread Cheri Mello
For people related to me and this couple (Shirley Allegre, Altino DeMelo, etc) I found the deaths Amaro de Medeiros, b. 1747 d. 1823 (death lower right)

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Amaro de Medeiros Vicencia de Pimentel from Vila Franca do Campo

2014-02-14 Thread Cheri Mello
Um, the link to Amaro SAYS Sao Miguel Arcanjo, but it took me to Achada! I hate Windows 8 (so I'll just blame that). Here's Amaro's death: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1806-1832_item1/P299.html On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:10

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a word

2014-02-14 Thread Marcio Borba
Its Tramocinho   Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Sexta-feira, 14 de Fevereiro de 2014 10:59, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com escreveu: On the left side for the marriage of Antonio de Lima and Francisca Roza, can  someone decipher the very first

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Amaro de Medeiros Vicencia de Pimentel from Vila Franca do Campo

2014-02-14 Thread rcapodc
Wah hoo! Rosemarie From: Cheri Mello Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 8:10 AM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Amaro de Medeiros Vicencia de Pimentel from Vila Franca do Campo For people related to me and this couple (Shirley Allegre, Altino DeMelo, etc) I found the deaths

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a word

2014-02-14 Thread Maria Lima
Oh- thank you Marcio. I had forgotten to make note of that for the DeSousa's. Do you know if they used that tremocinho to differentiate someone from a particular region named de Sousa or an occupation maybe? I have seen the word on other De Sousa's but not sure if that means they're related

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEPS - Pico families

2014-02-14 Thread luiznoia .
As I understand the project, groups of graduate students deciphered the parish books and entered them into a database. The relationships were determined by the algorithim of the program they were entered into. The human intervention has corrected many of the inconsistancies. You will find the

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Faial da Terra ancestors

2014-02-14 Thread David Perry
These folks are my direct ancestors. I have all their children, at least all I could find. They're on Ancestry.com if you have access. I can also provide them through private email or through this group. Let me know what's best. David On Tuesday, July 18, 2006 1:02:03 AM UTC-7, JR wrote:

[AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero

2014-02-14 Thread Maria Lima
The google dictionary says: Hacker. How would that fit in to their lifestyle? Could it be like a lumberjack. This person was a Cabouquiero then later in baptismal records of his children, his profession is proprietero. Is proprietero a land/property owner? The google translation says it

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Amaro de Medeiros Vicencia de Pimentel from Vila Franca do Campo

2014-02-14 Thread Marilyn Thompson
Cheri I just looked at your 2 posts. I used each link even those for Amaro, they look alike in appearance. These are the records that they brought up. 1 email for Amaro Achada, Óbitos 1854-1860 0040 for Vicencia São Miguel, Óbitos 1806-1832 0126 2 email for Amaro São

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Amaro de Medeiros Vicencia de Pimentel from Vila Franca do Campo

2014-02-14 Thread Cheri Mello
Marilyn, I did this last night. Well, let me back up. When I went to work, I finally allowed Windows to update to 8.1. Then I came home and started to do some genealogy. My pointer froze up twice. I couldn't get it to unstick, so I had to shut the power off and reboot. When it did it again

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEPS - Pico families

2014-02-14 Thread luiznoia .
Doug, My family traces back to Ribeiras also. Silveira, Soares, Cardoso, Pereira, Melo, Fiahlo, Goulart. I have them back to the early 1700s. Private mail me to collaborate. Eric Edgar On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 11:53 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote: Yea, Rosemarie. What gets me is understanding

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Amaro de Medeiros Vicencia de Pimentel from Vila Franca do Campo

2014-02-14 Thread Marilyn Thompson
I have not moved to Windows 8. Until I see a real reason that is important to me I am not changing. Somewhere down the line I may make the change or I will skip in entirely, like I did Vista On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Marilyn, I did this last

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] family members

2014-02-14 Thread Cheri Mello
I'd guess that there are 4 or 5 churches named Sao Jose in the Azores. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your

[AZORES-Genealogy] family members

2014-02-14 Thread ggervais1...@centurylink.net
Hello group members: Wondering if someone can help me. I am trying to tie in a family group and can not find the records of siblings. Either I am missing something or looking in the wrong places. I am just learning to read the records and have to admit I have a hard time. I am looking for the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEPS - Pico families

2014-02-14 Thread rcapodc
Doug, I know, it is so frustrating when using the NEPS site because of the pai incognito and other things! Everyone using the site just needs to be very careful about accepting what is there. They need to verify through the original documents when possible. I helped a friend, a couple of weeks

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] family members

2014-02-14 Thread GENEVA
The sister's birth record says parish of Sao Jose, city of Ponta D elgada, island of Sao Miguel, Diocese of Angra - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 11:03:32 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero

2014-02-14 Thread Ricardo Chaves
:) Hacker! hehe! Sorry, its funny! Maria, Cabouqueiro could be a man who works on lands with a hoe! Proprietario is Owner. They were classified as someone who owned the lands! Cheers On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Maria Lima maria.lima...@gmail.com wrote: The google dictionary says:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with Faial parish name

2014-02-14 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi, it works again, thanks :) m On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rodney, reads: natural of of this church of Nossa Senhora da Graça in Faial (Faial da Terra). On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:23 PM, Rodney Figueiredo

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero

2014-02-14 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Maria, Here's from PORTO Editor dictionary: cabouqueiro Masculin name 1. o que abre caboucos 1. one who digs/excavates 2. cavador 2. fits the definition given by Ricardo, one who works with a hoe 3. indivíduo que trabalha em minas ou pedreiras 3. a person who works the mines or quarries

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero

2014-02-14 Thread Margaret Vicente
Maria, trying again: Here's from PORTO Editorial dictionary: cabouqueiro Masculin name 1.o que abre caboucos 1. one who digs/excavates2.cavador2. fits the definition given by Ricardo, one who works with a hoe 3.indivíduo que trabalha em minas ou pedreiras3. a person who works the mines or

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero

2014-02-14 Thread Margaret Vicente
Here's from PORTO Editorial dictionary: cabouqueiro Masculin name 1. o que abre caboucos 1. one who digs/excavates 2. cavador 2. fits the definition given by Ricardo, one who works with a hoe 3. indivíduo que trabalha em minas ou pedreiras 3. a person who works the mines or quarries 4. pioneiro

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] family members

2014-02-14 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Unfortunately there is no easy way to search. You have to go through each record looking. I would focus on one part of the record where it gives the father’s name. If it is a Perreira then see if it is one of the three brothers then look and see if the rest matches (mothers name and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a word

2014-02-14 Thread Marcio Borba
No problem. I believe Tremocinho would have been a nickname that could have very well turned into a surname to diferenciate him or an ancestor from other with same name.  The only word that I can associate with Tremocinho is Tremoço. Now Tremoço in portuguese means Lupine Bean I guess Tremocinho

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a word

2014-02-14 Thread Maria Lima
Marcio- thanks for the explanation on Tramocinho. Now I'm wondering how I enter the name In the genealogy program- Manoel --de Sousa Tramocinho- maybe put the de Sousa Tramocinho in the box for the last name. (?) Maria Elena On Feb 14, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Marcio Borba

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] family members

2014-02-14 Thread GENEVA
Joao Ventura is going to be kind enough to do some research  for me and see what he comes up with. I can't seem to find what I am looking for then again I can barely read Portuguese. I checked allot of records today but I came up with nothing even going one by one. I'm not sure I'm even looking

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a word

2014-02-14 Thread JR
No. I would put it in as double surname starting with Sousa not Tramocinho, but rather Sousa Tramocinho. After all, unless it became your name, it is just a nick name that was used and the real name is Sousa. If you put a / front slash in front of Sousa, it should show and appear under the

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: family members

2014-02-14 Thread JR
There are a lot of Teves, in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, so that is likely place to start. JR On Friday, February 14, 2014 11:47:49 AM UTC-5, ggerva...@centurylink.net wrote: Hello group members: Wondering if someone can help me. I am trying to tie in a family group and can not find the

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: family members

2014-02-14 Thread JR
I found a Jose Pereira, 22 yrs old, son of Jose Pereira, deceased and Elena de Jesus, married to Anna Izabel, daughter of Francisco de Teves and Anna Jacintha in Sao Jose, Ponta Delgada, married Dec 25- 1850. So if that is your ancestor, you can start looking from 1850 and go forward about 20

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I'm having trouble with surname of mother of the bride.

2014-02-14 Thread JR
There is no connection between the Brilhante of Ponta Garca and Faja de Baixo that I am aware of. In Ponta Garca, it si si,ple a nickname that was adopted by the Medeiros line circa 1800's. Ity is probably the same with the Medeiros of Faja de Baixo. JR On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 9:34:04

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Faial da Terra ancestors

2014-02-14 Thread JR
Dear David, thank you for the offer. I would appreciate if you could send the children to my private email address. Many thanks, John Roias (JR) On Friday, February 14, 2014 11:06:09 AM UTC-5, David Perry wrote: These folks are my direct ancestors. I have all their children, at least all

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero

2014-02-14 Thread Maria Lima
Wow, Margaret!! cabouquiero makes sense then- as one who works in mines because Antonio must have known that business when he took his 2 teenage sons and sailed to Australia; set them up in business in the goldfields of Victoria. I know they were able to speak English and read and write.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero

2014-02-14 Thread Maria Lima
Margaret! That last definition makes TOTAL SENSE!! In Australia those who worked the mines were called DIGGERS!!!Isn't that enlightening. I know that both Jacinto Jose de Lima and his brother Jose Jacinto owned a part in the Humbug Hill Mining and Sluicing company. I don't know

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: I'm having trouble with surname of mother of the bride.

2014-02-14 Thread JR
There is no connection between the Brilhante's of Ponta Garca and Faja de Baixo that I am aware of. In Ponta Garca, it simply a nickname that was adopted by the Medeiros line circa 1800's. It is probably the same with the Medeiros of Faja de Baixo. JR On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 3:43:17

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero

2014-02-14 Thread Anthony Soares
Digger is also common slang meaning Soldier in Australia Tony -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Meaning of Cabouquiero and Proprietero

2014-02-14 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
That Australian slang for Soldier probably goes back to WW I and the digging of trenches. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Soares Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 9:22 PM To:

[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA testing

2014-02-14 Thread Marcio Borba
I never really got into the DNA testing but would like to know how and where to do it, how much would it cost. I live in Canada. Is there a diference between the companies that do it? Thank you for any input on the matter.   Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA testing

2014-02-14 Thread Cheri Mello
Marcio, It's best to go with Family Tree DNA. That's where the Azores DNA project is. I'd start off with the Family Finder test, which covers all your lines back about 200 years from your birth. That test is $99 USD + $7 postage since you are in Canada. Yes, there's a bit of a difference between

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA testing

2014-02-14 Thread Marcio
All lines including the ones from unknown parents? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 15, 2014, at 12:25 AM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Marcio, It's best to go with Family Tree DNA. That's where the Azores DNA project is. I'd start off with the Family Finder test, which covers all