She was born before they were received, meaning married in the church.
Mnk
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I would like some help with understanding the note above the marriage
record for Jose de Viveiros and Maria de Sao Jose. Since I don't read
Portuguese I was wondering if someone could tell me what it says. Is it
correcting/changing a name in the record? Is it the bride or the bride's
mother? Here'
(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes)
The new, revamped Population Finder has been retitled myOrigins. For those
who have tested with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA), and took the Family Finder
test, you have automatically been upgraded. You can log in now to see your
deep origins and the map
Here is an explanation from Emily Aucilino about the new myOrigins:
http://goo.gl/V5nsWB
I'm sure other genetic genealogists will post their take in their blogs
over the next few days.
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Cheri Mello wrote:
> (Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, IslandRoutes)
>
> The
Hi Fred,
I didn't check the whole document to verify this but it seems the Priest
forgot to enter the bride's parents and the Note says he advises the bride
in the document Maria de Viveiros daugther of Joao Viveiros and of his wife
Maria Martins.
hope this helps,
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 12:45 P
Wow, really cool! Because I’m half Portuguese and half Sicilian I have 24%
Middle Eastern (I guess that accounts for all of the plundering of Sicilyj!!).
Rosemarie
From: Cheri Mello
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 10:12 AM
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Thanks, Cheri for the explanation site. I put it in my favorites so I can
refer to it whenever I need to but first I still have to understand it.
"E"
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:43 AM, rcapodc wrote:
> Wow, really cool! Because I’m half Portuguese and half Sicilian I have
> 24% Middle Easter
Margaret,
I don't think this is the case because the bride's parents names are listed
in the record (Jose Homem da Costa and Maria da Costa). And there is no
Maria de Viveiros listed anywhere in the record, except in the written note
above the record. I think it is something else.
Fred
On Tue, M
Fred,
the note reads: "I’m adverting that this bride (contrahente) her name is
Maria de Viveiros daughter of Joao Viveiros Homem and of his wife Maria
Martins and in the documents/certificates (termos) both gave their surnames
that cause confusion with the certificates that/of the bride and groom
(
Cheri how far back do these results go 200,500, maybe 1,000 years or 2,000. Do
they know? Which ethnicities are recent? How recent? Which are the most
distant? Do we really know more now?
Herb
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Mine finally make sense to me, with 47% North Mediterranean Basin. There was a
surprise 1% Nigeria-Congo Genesis.
-Trevor Costa (VA/DC)
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My father also got a similar surprise - 1% East African Pastoralists which the map shows as Uganda, South Sudan, Kenya. I suppose it comes from a slave. We have one exposta from the late 1600s which might account for this mysterious DNA.And it was interesting to see he has 6% Middle Eastern in the
Thanks, that was kind of what I was thinking it said, but wasn't sure.
Their next child was born in 1710 in Luz, Graciosa, and makes no mention of
them not being married, so its my guess they got married sometime between
1705 and 1710. I have not been able to find their marriage in Luz,
Gracios
Doug,
I got a surprisingly low 2% "Berber"-ish population. It was a surprise, after
my 7% Middle Eastern, on Population Finder.
I think this Beta is a strong step in the right direction. According to the
article that came out, today, it IS still in Beta, so I look forward to
refinements.
Group,
Two irksome things (which are actually just one) are: Why is the North
Mediterranean described as being "From Spain to Greece" (I can see the
graphic), and why are the Azores described as being "off the coast of Spain"?
Grumble, grumble. Good tool, though.
-Trevor Costa (VA/DC)
Very good points Trevor.
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Thanks, Margaret for your help. I guess they had recording mistakes back
then too!
Fred
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Margaret Vicente
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> Fred,
> the note reads: "I’m adverting that this bride (contrahente) her name is
> Maria de Viveiros daughter of Joao Viveiros Homem and of his wife
I need a little help with the two marriage records listed below; one is
from 1706 and the other is for their daughter Maria Rosa in 1744.
#1 - top left
Manuel de Conde Pays married to Isabel Diero?
Manuel son of Manuel de Conde Pays and Maria Goncalvez (or Gonsalvez?)
Maria daughter of Manue
You're welcome. They sure did, lucky this one was caught and annotated as
such.
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Fred Estrella wrote:
> Thanks, Margaret for your help. I guess they had recording mistakes back
> then too!
>
> Fred
>
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Margaret Vicente <
> margare
Hi Lee,
1) reading from the centre of the document it reads Isabel Deiro. Note
brides mother is Catarina Novais.
2) it reads "todos desta freguesia" all from this Parish
On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Lee wrote:
> I need a little help with the two marriage records listed below; one is
> fro
Hi Lee,
In the first record, I would say Isabel's surname is definitely Diero.
The second record on the second page it is just stating that they are all
from this same Freguesia (Luz), and something along the lines of :as by
rites of the Holy Mother church Santa Madre Igreja). Santa Madre Igr
Just looked at my results. The only surprise (mild) in the genetic
breakdown is the 2% Niger-Congo Genesis. What I found surprising is when I
clicked on the Paternal & Maternal ancestor pins. Not one (paternal) pin in
the Azores, but a pin for both in Madeira! Interesting to see that my
materna
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