Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with odd word?/name? in Rabo de Peixe marriage record

2015-04-22 Thread helen kerner
apelido is another name for nickname On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 10:44 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: Liz, Maybe it's time for bed.  Alcunha means nickname.  Nickname means alcunha. Cheri On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: Is there another word for nickname Sent fr

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with odd word?/name? in Rabo de Peixe marriage record

2015-04-22 Thread Cheri Mello
Liz, Maybe it's time for bed. Alcunha means nickname. Nickname means alcunha. Cheri On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > Is there another word for nickname > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:11 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Alcunha is a nickname, as Margaret

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with odd word?/name? in Rabo de Peixe marriage record

2015-04-22 Thread Liz Migliori
Is there another word for nickname Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:11 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Alcunha is a nickname, as Margaret stated. > >> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: >> What does Alcunha mean >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Apr 22, 2015, at

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with odd word?/name? in Rabo de Peixe marriage record

2015-04-22 Thread linda
Makes sense-- Thank you. On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 10:10:16 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: > > It's a soft sound. Chaves kinda starts out like the English word "shawl." > > Cheri > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 1:23 PM, linda > > wrote: > >> In the first record, the name transliterates as "Chapa

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with odd word?/name? in Rabo de Peixe marriage record

2015-04-22 Thread Cheri Mello
Alcunha is a nickname, as Margaret stated. On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Liz Migliori wrote: > What does Alcunha mean > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 22, 2015, at 1:21 PM, bsei2...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi Lee, > > I would think it's an alcunha, possibly to differentiate him from his > fat

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: R.I. Genealogy records

2015-04-22 Thread Cheri Mello
Cordeiro and Carneiro and two different family names. On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 4:06 PM, George Medeiros wrote: > Dano, >Thanks for the clarification because I don't speak Portuguese.In any > case lambs are sheep and from the same family. Is it possible that Cordeiro > and Carneiro is the same

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with odd word?/name? in Rabo de Peixe marriage record

2015-04-22 Thread Cheri Mello
It's a soft sound. Chaves kinda starts out like the English word "shawl." Cheri On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 1:23 PM, linda wrote: > In the first record, the name transliterates as "Chapado" and in the > second, as "Xapado". It's the same name. "Ch" and "X" are both used for > that sound-- but I

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Paleography

2015-04-22 Thread George Medeiros
Thanks this is really helpful ! George M.( Pereira) Medeiros Jr. Sent from my iPad On Apr 22, 2015, at 3:21 PM, akatex wrote: > Fernando Manaças Ferreira posted this on Facebook and I thought it would > helpful to all on this list also. I have added a cover page for your use if > desired. I

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Paleography

2015-04-22 Thread linda
Those pages are from Nunes, E. Borges, 1981 *Abreviaturas paleográficas portuguesas*, Lisboa, Faculdade de Letras you can page through the virtual booklet here: http://issuu.com/rogeriod/docs/abreviaturas Though I'm not sure if that's a legitimate site for purchase. There's also a pirated c

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with odd word?/name? in Rabo de Peixe marriage record

2015-04-22 Thread Liz Migliori
What does Alcunha mean Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 22, 2015, at 1:21 PM, bsei2...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi Lee, > > I would think it's an alcunha, possibly to differentiate him from his father > who had the same name. Google translates it (chapdao) as stoned, as in paved > with stone, or pla

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joseph F Rose & Flora Vargas from the Faial, Azores

2015-04-22 Thread Pat Rose
Michelle, Forgot to include my email address in all my excitement. It's rosebuds...@sbbmail.com I'm located in Grass Valley, California. Pat Rose On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 8:16:38 AM UTC-7, Pat Rose wrote: > > From marriage records in California, USA both Joseph F Rose, Abt 1848, and >

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joseph F Rose & Flora Vargas from the Faial, Azores

2015-04-22 Thread Pat Rose
Oh my, YES, they are the same line for sure. My home email address is rosebuds333 and I'd love for you to contact me there. Then I'll send you my phone numbers and maybe we can chat more! Thanks for the response! Pat On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 8:16:38 AM UTC-7, Pat Rose wrote: > > From m

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: R.I. Genealogy records

2015-04-22 Thread George Medeiros
I do have some specific records but as you say the R.I.site gives the entire R.I. genealogical record website.Why I don't know? I found the information by typing in my Grandparents names at the site.A list appeared which gave me my Grandparents and two other records which gave the names of t

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: R.I. Genealogy records

2015-04-22 Thread George Medeiros
Dano, Thanks for the clarification because I don't speak Portuguese.In any case lambs are sheep and from the same family. Is it possible that Cordeiro and Carneiro is the same family surname with different spellings ? Does anyone know ? These family names are a real challenge aren't they ?I

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with odd word?/name? in Rabo de Peixe marriage record

2015-04-22 Thread linda
In the first record, the name transliterates as "Chapado" and in the second, as "Xapado". It's the same name. "Ch" and "X" are both used for that sound-- but I don't know if it's a soft "sh" or a harder "ch"--can anyone clarify, please?. I've seen this usage in "Chaves/Xaves" too. I don't

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with odd word?/name? in Rabo de Peixe marriage record

2015-04-22 Thread Lee
Margaret, Thanks. I have RR just have no clue to find where it is referenced in his work. Thanks, again. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Paleography

2015-04-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
Thank you, Walter! Margaret On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci wrote: > Wow, thanks so much Walt! This is a great help to all of us. As you know > from your searching different priests use different abbreviations for the > same names and sometimes it takes years to figure some

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of the baby is my 3rd great grandfather..

2015-04-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hello there Cousin Pat. Sorry I was thinking you were the person Cheri was referring to on the initial email. Margaret On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Margaret Vicente wrote: > Hi Pat, > > Don't be shy next time. This is my family on my paternal/maternal side and > perhaps I could have saved

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with odd word?/name? in Rabo de Peixe marriage record

2015-04-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Lee, Do some more research. Chapado is a Spanish surname and no surprise it turns up in S.Miguel for Portugal was under Spanish rule for almost a century. I did a search at the Biblioteca Genalogica de Lisboa and it shows up in Rodrigo Rodrigues. If it were a nick (alcunha) RR would have ind

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Paleography

2015-04-22 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Wow, thanks so much Walt! This is a great help to all of us. As you know from your searching different priests use different abbreviations for the same names and sometimes it takes years to figure some of them out! I will print it out and take it to SLC with me!! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Resear

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Paleography

2015-04-22 Thread Hermano C. Pires
Looks to be very useful. Thanks for posting it. Will have to try to locate the original. Again many thanks. Hermano Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 15:21:34 -0700 From: aka...@earthlink.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portuguese Paleography Fernando Manaças Ferrei

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of the baby is my 3rd great grandfather..Margaret Vincente

2015-04-22 Thread blackice430
Hi Margaret, I'm not shy. I worked on that line about 15 years ago. I just happened to open the email that said baby name and was very surprised to see that it was my 3rd ggrandfather that was the baby. I guess I have found a new cousin Margaret. Prima Pat - Original Message - From:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of the baby is my 3rd great grandfather..

2015-04-22 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Pat, Don't be shy next time. This is my family on my paternal/maternal side and perhaps I could have saved you some time had you posted your question. I'm not sure what you're looking at but do not confuse Zeferino with Jose Zeferino. Zeferino born in 1794 is the father of Jose Zeferino who w

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Name of the baby is my 3rd great grandfather..

2015-04-22 Thread blackice430
Joseferino is my 3rd great grandfather. It took a very long time to find him. I'll never forget that day. I was looking for Zeferino but just couldn't find him. After looking at a lot of other certificates  and searching for a year or more , there he was. Zeferino was a JoseZeferino. Pat Mello

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel de Arruda... let's start all over again!

2015-04-22 Thread Hermano C. Pires
Hi Eliseu,I finally was able to get back to this!I have verified that the grandparents for Jose from his baptism and the parents for both Manuel and Maria Julia from their marriage record are consistent.On any event attached is what I have so far for Jose's ancestors.Once again sorry for the del

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with odd word?/name? in Rabo de Peixe marriage record

2015-04-22 Thread bsei2816
Hi Lee, I would think it's an alcunha, possibly to differentiate him from his father who had the same name. Google translates it (chapdao) as stoned, as in paved with stone, or plated. Bill On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 at 12:45:06 PM UTC-7, Lee wrote: > This the marriage record of Francisco

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with odd word?/name? in Rabo de Peixe marriage record

2015-04-22 Thread Lee
This the marriage record of Francisco Gomez Xapado? and Barbara do Sacremento (right page) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1759-1780/SMG-RG-RABODEPEIXE-C-1759-1780_item1/P104.html I am having trouble with the third name/word at the end of the grooms name

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Cardoza death

2015-04-22 Thread 'celeste perry' via Azores Genealogy
The records for Mt. St. Joseph Cemetery I have in a database that I constructed from the 14 books that are at All Saints Church in Hayward.  I worked on the database for 4 years and copied from the beginning of the books (abt. 1870 I think) until about 1990. When I finished those books, I asked

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Cardoza death

2015-04-22 Thread Eddie Machado
Celeste, where can I find the Mt. St. Joseph Cemetery records that have Manuel on them? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area o

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph F Rose & Flora Vargas from the Faial, Azores

2015-04-22 Thread Rob and Michelle Flores
Hi Pat, My interest was piqued when I read the subject line of your inquiry. I have a Joseph F Rose and Flora Vargas in my line. They would be by great, great grandparents. Their daughter Helen was my great grandmother. She had a sibling, George...are you related? They resided in Alameda County

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph F Rose & Flora Vargas from the Faial, Azores

2015-04-22 Thread Cheri Mello
Emigration leaving the Azores (called Passaportes - check Horta then Angra) http://tombo.pt/en/d/acores How to get started: http://goo.gl/Ds6UKd On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Pat Rose wrote: > From marriage records in California, USA both Joseph F Rose, Abt 1848, and > Flora Vargas, Abt 18

[AZORES-Genealogy] Joseph F Rose & Flora Vargas from the Faial, Azores

2015-04-22 Thread Pat Rose
>From marriage records in California, USA both Joseph F Rose, Abt 1848, and Flora Vargas, Abt 1852 came to the United States prior to 1875 when they married here per church records. I've never been able to find any travel records, arrival records, immigration records, or anything else about whe

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores Trip

2015-04-22 Thread BOBCAMSCPW via Azores Genealogy
Great information Bill. I also have a questions, I see that you are researching Family in Graciosa and Terceira, can I ask what villages and surnames? You are welcome to email me directly at _bobcamscpw@aol.com_ (mailto:bobcams...@aol.com) Thank you Bob Camacho Researching the Island

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: R.I. Genealogy records

2015-04-22 Thread Dano
Sorry Miguel (George), you were correct re: Cordeiro = Lamb; (Carneiro actually translates as sheep or ram). I was, however, more interested in the Carneiro surname, as I am descended from an early settler in Sao Miguel with this name. On Tuesday, April 21, 2015 at 1:47:52 PM UTC-4, migueldeav

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: R.I. Genealogy records

2015-04-22 Thread Dano
*Miguel, * *The surname "Lamb" would properly translate as "Carneiro" (not "Cordeiro)" in Portuguese (I have many ancestors with this surname). Apart from that, I am unable to confirm your research since the link you have posted does not connect to any specific record, but, rather, to the entire