Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Slaves

Yes, DNA testing has shown people with African lineages. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Manita M wrote: > This is very interesting. > > All my

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Challenging Record - Translation Help needed

Thanks so much to everyone who contributed on this! What an amazing story this tells! On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 12:11:54 AM UTC-4, Laura Flanagan wrote: > > I am researching what I believe to be a common ancestor between two people > predicted to be 3rd cousins to me through dna

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Challenging Record - Translation Help needed

Theresa, I think you and Bill have filled in the blanks that I was missing especially the first line of the 2nd record! The idea that the child was abandoned, and later the parents came forward, makes the most sense, especially in light of the fact that the subsequent baptism records of

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Challenging Record - Translation Help needed

MNK, Could the 1929 reference be to the marriage date? On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 8:43:38 AM UTC-4, mnk wrote: > > I will add that at the bottom the priest says that this was declared to > him by the father of the baby and that he intends to marry the mother. They > are trying to get a

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tips for searching

Sean, Define "years around." 3 years on either side of the approximate birth date? 5 years? 10 years? They may be as much as 10 years off. It may be easier to find the marriage of the parents a generation back. Then you can trace forward for the birth of your ancestors (although I do trace a

[AZORES-Genealogy] Tips for searching

Hi, I have two ancestors that were married in Capelo and died in Praia do Norte. I have found their marriage and death records. Their death records say about how old they were. I have searched the Capelo baptism records several times for the years around, and many years before and after they

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Afonso das Grotas Fundas and the Counts of Benavente

This is fantastic thank you! So many of my ancestors trace back to him. Todd On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 11:48:19 AM UTC-4, John Raposo wrote: > > *Jo**ã**o Afonso (de Pimentel) **“**das Grotas Fundas* > *Died 2 Sept 1512* > > NB: this is the work of several people including Rodrigo

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Occupation of father in a 1727 baptism record

Oh Nancy- that's funny to me because it said "oficial de Fereiros" so I thought oficial meant an official. You might be right. That would make more sense. So the word that's throwing me off is the title of oficial . Thanks so much. Maria Elena > On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:30 PM, nancy jean

[AZORES-Genealogy] Maria, example of extended name

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1837-1840/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1837-1840_item1/P14.html I am posting this as matter of interest in the name Maria. I have seen examples of first names being posted but this is a first for me. "Maria do Espirito Santo,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Occupation of father in a 1727 baptism record

A ferreiro is actually a blacksmith, and yes, this was a key position in a village. Sonia Sónia Pacheco Librarian Archivist Ferreira-Mendes Portuguese American Archives Claire T. Carney Library University of Massachusetts Dartmouth 285 Old Westport Road N. Dartmouth, MA 02747 Tel.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tips for searching

I have gone over 10 years each way in searching. On the wife's side I have found her parents information, but not on the husbands side. I can try searching for the husbands parents wedding information again. I had been using NEPS as a guide, but it's still been difficult to find. Plus there

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Occupation of father in a 1727 baptism record

My guess would be that he put shoes on horses and mules and made other useful objects out of iron. Nancy Jean > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Occupation of father in a 1727 baptism record > From: maria.lima...@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2015 15:26:45 -0500 > To: azores@googlegroups.com > > Left

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Occupation of father in a 1727 baptism record

Oh thank you for enlightening me. Of course: the blacksmith.!! I had never thought of the importance of the blacksmith but it totally makes sense.What a nice piece of information to share with the family. Maria Elena > On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Sonia Pacheco

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Slaves

rats! that post was supposed to be a new topic! sorry Cheri, is there a way to move it? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Slaves

I've seen a number of references to slaves - "escravos" - in the CCA records. My research is primarily in São Miguel. MaryAnn On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 2:29 AM, linda wrote: > > > On Wednesday, September 2, 2015 at 8:53:17 PM UTC-7, manita.morgado wrote: >> >> Slave? >> >>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Slaves

This is very interesting. All my CCA records research are in the eastern part of Sao Miguel so perhaps that is why I've never seen an "escravo" but I may not have noticed it either as I'm still a newbie and not fully translating the records but just focusing on the dates, names and places. I'm

[AZORES-Genealogy] Slaves

I have done DNA Testing on several of my family and We all show European, Middle Eastern (north west Africa) and African. One of my dad’s 1st cousins shows European 96%, Middle Eastern (north west Africa) 3% and African 1%. What is significant is that I was able to isolate my dad’s Paternal side

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tips for searching

Yes, I have noticed ancestors that are combined with someone else or the same ancestor in different towns with slightly different information. I will focus on another line for now. Thanks for the advice! -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Occupation of father in a 1727 baptism record

Left page, second person (Antonio) It must have been an important position because I found two men with the same exact name where the record said- Joseph de MELLO, official de Fereiros. However, their wives had different first names but both were De Andrade. At first I thought they could

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Slaves

Beginning in 1500 with Cabral's journey into the Indian Ocean, trading centers were developed in Africa, the Red Sea, and South Asia. The map attached shows the Portuguese outposts around 1600. Slaves could have been purchased from any of these places and transported to the Azores. I have a

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Maria, example of extended name

Yes, I would definitely agree that it was the exception! If this is anyone's ancestor it would be interesting to see if she stuck with "Espirito Santo" or became something else. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tips for searching

hi Cheri, Is there a way to formally report errors to the NEPS project? I noticed a mistake for one of the people I've been researching. Thanks, Linda On Thursday, September 3, 2015 at 6:35:12 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: > I don't have ancestors from Faial. But I do know that NEPS has

[AZORES-Genealogy] Mae de Deus marriage record for Manoel da Costa Rapozo & Francisca de Campos

I am having a hard time figuring out the groom & brides father's surnames. I see Manoel da Costa Rapozo baptized in Fiail, filho Manoel da Costa Cana? and Josepha Rapoza, com Francisca de Campos filha Antonio Rodriguez . (looks like Paparaizo to me) and Barbara de Camops, baptized in

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Challenging Record - Translation Help needed

Thanks so much! I think you could be correct, Bill. Perhaps the upper and lower record are connected? -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Challenging Record - Translation Help needed

I wondered if the first line, above Balbina, said something about clarifying? I thought there were references to the log in Bretanha and the log in Mosteiros? Very confusing. Thanks for taking a look at it... To find it on CCA site, you have to go to page 167 and turn, as it is on the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Challenging Record - Translation Help needed

I’m not sure but the top record looks like she was left at the door of the people named. The second item says that the parents came forth and declared who they were. It also looks like they were related in the 2nd degree of consanguinity. I was confused that the 2nd item came right after the

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Challenging Record - Translation Help needed

I will add that at the bottom the priest says that this was declared to him by the father of the baby and that he intends to marry the mother. They are trying to get a dispensation because of second degree consanguinity "mixto". I'm not sure if the "mixto" might mean they are related by both

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Slaves

>From the Wikipedia article on Portuguese Empire Expansion of sugarcane in Madeira started in 1455, using advisers from Sicily and (largely) Genoese capital to

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Slaves

Thanks for this information Eric.  Very interesting... Sam (Camas, WA) From: luiznoia . To: Azores Genealogy Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Slaves >From the Wikipedia article on Portuguese

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Tips for searching

I don't have ancestors from Faial. But I do know that NEPS has errors, as I've utilized it here or there and other have reported errors. Blending 2 different people of the same name is most likely a problem on NEPS. Sometimes, it's good to shelve something and go chase an easier line for awhile

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Slaves

> > Thanks to all for the additional information. During lunch today, I > googled "slavery in Portugal" and this very informative Wikipedia article > came up: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Portugal The article has extensive references, for anyone who wants to follow up on the