I've only seen a handful like yours. I have one where he was baptized right
before his marriage - guess the baptism was lost (from the book) or they
just didn't baptism him.
Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
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Thanks, everyone. I was confused because typically babies are baptized
rather quickly after being born, so I thought it strange that the baptism
would take place a year after the birth, especially when I saw other
entries around it saying the same thing. I thought it must be referring to
the pr
I'm afraid I can't make out the margin note on the baptism. Perhaps
someone else can get it.
The marriage entry states that the couple received a dispensation for a
collateral consanguinity in the fourth degree, "mixto de terceira". Is
that the section you were asking about?
:)
Linda
On Tu
Does anyone have information oh these people/this line?
This is the 'de Sousa' line of my great grandfather José de Sousa (born in
São Roque PDL, moved to Santa Maria and married there).
This is the further i got:
*José de Sousa* (my great grandfather):
Filho de João José de Sousa* e Maria Borge
Kyle said: << So does this mean "the last September" referred to in the
younger Jacinto's baptism record is September 1889? Because that way the
dates would make sense...>>
Yes
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Kyle, Richard,
If I may, ultimo is not referring to the month. It is referring to the
year. Therefore he was born in 1889.
Were it to say "corrente" (current) then it would be 1890.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
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> *He was baptize
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1882-1888/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1882-1888_item1/P230.html
This is my great uncle Manuel who was born 2 years before my great
grandparents married. It looks like his legitimacy is documented in the
margin but I can’t make the whole th
So, you are in Madeira. When you get 1700's or further back, you may want
to contact the Madeira List. They have a lot of older lines they exchange
with each other.
JR
On Tuesday, September 13, 2016 at 10:03:46 PM UTC-4, audiosourceinc wrote:
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> Thank you Cheri!
>
>
>
> *From:* azo...@google
Thank you Cheri!
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Cheri Mello
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:52 PM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Possible 4th degree consanguinity
Yep, you got it. The priest picked up his pen in the mid
He was baptized on 8 Oct 1890 and was born on 25 Sep 1890. Last September
refers to the current year because September was passed for 1890. The margin
note on the baptism of his father could very well be wrong. I would look for
an obito.
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Yep, you got it. The priest picked up his pen in the middle of some words
making it hard. "grau" is degree. As soon as I see that, I backtrack
(because I miss it about half the time).
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Acha
Such a long text... It seems that on April 25 1887 José Figueiredo is
asking the reverend (on behalf of Manuel d'Andrade, who already submited
the application for the 'perfilhação' on March 31) to grant his request,
and the second part is the priest going to Manuel d'Andrades house and in
the prese
Apple does😉
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Cheri Mello wrote:
> Yeah, the computer doesn't know the scientific word "endogamy." So stick a
> Post-It to your monitor with the spelling. Cheri
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This Perfilhacoes is an acknowledgement of parentage of Ermelinda. It is so
far beyond my translation abilities. If someone can just give me the jist of
what it says. Names and relationships would be terrific. I've got the DOB and
her mothers name. There is just so much other info, I just k
I'm trying to figure something out here, but the dates aren't adding up.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1890-1894/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1890-1894_item1/P61.html
This is the baptism record for my great-grandfather, Jacinto Cabral. From
what I understand of it, hi
Yeah, the computer doesn't know the scientific word "endogamy." So stick a
Post-It to your monitor with the spelling. Cheri
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Thanks, no matter how I changed the vowels, it didn't come out right!!
Rosemarie
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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Cheri Mello wrote:
> Nancy Jean, you made a typo in his
Nancy Jean, you made a typo in his email addy. He's probably doing
genealogy. Group admins can log into the admin page to see when that person
last logged into their genealogy page. He has a recent log in time period.
Rosemarie, it's endogamy with an "e," which is better than saying we're a
bunch
Thank you!
I haven't even started to look for the marriages yet...
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Cheri Mello wrote:
> On the Azores GenWeb, I've got the 3 times periods, some key words posted
> (a scaled down version from the word list), and a fairly clear record and a
> line by line translat
Carmen,
The names are on the 2nd page. This is a really clear record and a good one
to try to train yourself with. Use this link to look for key marriage terms
and for the format as well: https://goo.gl/ny1kGM
Yes, August 1879. First word is "Aos" for "On the." The next word is the
date. It starts
As regards to the AM vs. PM?
Where is says "nove hora do dia" may mean during the day, whereas they
might use "noite" for night?
Kind of wild to think that with that information I could plot an
astrological chart.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:50 PM, 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@goog
It says 9 hours of the day. I believe day "dia" is used for a.m. whereas
night "noite" is used for p.m. So if you saw "tres horas do noite," I
believe that would refer to 3 p.m. in the afternoon, not 3 a.m. A native
speaker should be able to confirm or not.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Resea
Gayle,
Thank you for your help!
Yes, I know that this will be good practice & lucky that I found an easy
one for starters.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:50 PM, 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy <
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> Susan,
>
> It says essentially: Maria was baptized on 3 Sep 1865
On the Azores GenWeb, I've got the 3 times periods, some key words posted
(a scaled down version from the word list), and a fairly clear record and a
line by line translation in English. Baptisms, marriages, and deaths.
https://goo.gl/ny1kGM
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Fran
The new buzz word is Indogamy (sp???) but it means that we show closer
cousinship because of all of the intermarriage! My grandparents are 6th
cousins also and they had no idea!! One from Santo Antonio and one from
Ribeira da Areia and both going to church in Norte Grande!! Crazy genealogy
we have
hi everyone
i can't figure out most of the names on #42 - maria augusta
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1870-1879_item1/P280.html
marriage august ? 1879
thank you
carmen
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I'm so confused right now! I hope John A Souza is still doing genealogy! He
shows as a 2nd cousin to me in FTDNA, 3rd to both of my siblings, and 5th to my
paternal uncle John..the problem is that he has a good tree that clearly
shows we have 2 sets of common great grandparents and I'm confu
Marilyn, I know that I match several of your kits. We have to connect
somewhere! We should have had Cheri work with both of us while we were in
SLC, I didn't even think of it!
Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant'
Susan,
It says essentially: Maria was baptized on 3 Sep 1865 but born 21 Aug 1865 at 9
o'clock (here's where my skills are deplete-am or pm ?) , daughter of Antonio
Pereira da Rosa, farmer, and Maria Theresa, housewife. Both from this village.
(It actually says that separately for each person w
Rosemarie, Gilbert Machado is one of the kits that I manage. He is my
mother's 1st cousin. His dad and my grandfather were brothers.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci
wrote:
> Nancy, when I bring you up in FTdna and do an 'in common with' he doesn't
> show and you don't show
I never should have said that I had "most" of it figured out. Part of that
was due to the excitement that I had found it (Eureka!) and the fact that I
was in delirium @ 2:30 in the morning when I posted it. I stayed up until
4:30, but then opted to sleep on it & look with fresh eyes again this
morn
Nancy, when I bring you up in FTdna and do an 'in common with' he doesn't
show and you don't show with any of my matches! That is really weird. John
A. also shows in common with Gilbert Machado and John Marks Souza and
Jessie Lemos. Jessie I know is a connection thru my Grandfather's line on
to his
Nancy, he is showing as a 3rd to 5th cousin to me also. I think that I
corresponded with him at one time and we couldn't find any connection, only
33 cM's or so in common. I will look and see if I can find the email!
Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and
Greetings,
I'm looking for a DNA 2nd cousin at FTDNA...John A Souza. the email listed for
him doesn't work. Does anyone know him or perhaps he's even reading this
message.
Hopeful,
Nancy Jean Baptista
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What have you figured out ? What are you still trying to decipher ?
Gayle
> On Sep 13, 2016, at 2:34 AM, Susan Schoen wrote:
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> Thank you so much Gayle for the suggestion for checking the CITEM. I do
> believe that I have found the correct Maria Teresa Maciel. The CITEM lists
> the
Thank you so much Gayle for the suggestion for checking the CITEM. I do
believe that I have found the correct Maria Teresa Maciel. The CITEM lists
the parents (Antonio Pereira Rosa & Maria Teresa) that are found in the
baptismal record. I think that I have most of it figured out, but there are
Thanks! I just needed an extra set of eyes to ensure I was accurate. I
found another baptism record that is printed more clearly with the parents'
names and it seems that our guesses were correct after all.
On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 10:31:18 PM UTC-5, bsei...@gmail.com wrote:
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> I'm also
He helped me as well. He found my great grandparents record of marriage and
other documents. He told me my Sao Jorge ancestor go back to Vikings. I'm still
researching but it's slow going. I have yet to find a person who is a cousin.
Joao Ventura is very professional and willing to help.
Robin
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