Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Making Sense of Dates

I've only seen a handful like yours. I have one where he was baptized right before his marriage - guess the baptism was lost (from the book) or they just didn't baptism him. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada --

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Making Sense of Dates

Thanks, everyone. I was confused because typically babies are baptized rather quickly after being born, so I thought it strange that the baptism would take place a year after the birth, especially when I saw other entries around it saying the same thing. I thought it must be referring to the

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rosario Lagoa - Manuel Luis 1883 - Margin translation help

I'm afraid I can't make out the margin note on the baptism. Perhaps someone else can get it. The marriage entry states that the couple received a dispensation for a collateral consanguinity in the fourth degree, "mixto de terceira". Is that the section you were asking about? :) Linda On

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Making Sense of Dates

Kyle said: << So does this mean "the last September" referred to in the younger Jacinto's baptism record is September 1889? Because that way the dates would make sense...>> Yes Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation)

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Making Sense of Dates

Kyle, Richard, If I may, ultimo is not referring to the month. It is referring to the year. Therefore he was born in 1889. Were it to say "corrente" (current) then it would be 1890. On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel < rickredle...@gmail.com> wrote: > *He was

[AZORES-Genealogy] Rosario Lagoa - Manuel Luis 1883 - Margin translation help

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1882-1888/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1882-1888_item1/P230.html This is my great uncle Manuel who was born 2 years before my great grandparents married. It looks like his legitimacy is documented in the margin but I can’t make the whole

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Possible 4th degree consanguinity

So, you are in Madeira. When you get 1700's or further back, you may want to contact the Madeira List. They have a lot of older lines they exchange with each other. JR On Tuesday, September 13, 2016 at 10:03:46 PM UTC-4, audiosourceinc wrote: > > Thank you Cheri! > > > > *From:*

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Possible 4th degree consanguinity

Thank you Cheri! From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheri Mello Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:52 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Possible 4th degree consanguinity Yep, you got it. The priest picked up his pen in the

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Making Sense of Dates

He was baptized on 8 Oct 1890 and was born on 25 Sep 1890. Last September refers to the current year because September was passed for 1890. The margin note on the baptism of his father could very well be wrong. I would look for an obito. From: azores@googlegroups.com

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Possible 4th degree consanguinity

Yep, you got it. The priest picked up his pen in the middle of some words making it hard. "grau" is degree. As soon as I see that, I backtrack (because I miss it about half the time). Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help

Such a long text... It seems that on April 25 1887 José Figueiredo is asking the reverend (on behalf of Manuel d'Andrade, who already submited the application for the 'perfilhação' on March 31) to grant his request, and the second part is the priest going to Manuel d'Andrades house and in the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] John A Souza

Apple does On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Yeah, the computer doesn't know the scientific word "endogamy." So stick a > Post-It to your monitor with the spelling. Cheri > > -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail >

[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation help

This Perfilhacoes is an acknowledgement of parentage of Ermelinda. It is so far beyond my translation abilities. If someone can just give me the jist of what it says. Names and relationships would be terrific. I've got the DOB and her mothers name. There is just so much other info, I just

[AZORES-Genealogy] Making Sense of Dates

I'm trying to figure something out here, but the dates aren't adding up. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1890-1894/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1890-1894_item1/P61.html This is the baptism record for my great-grandfather, Jacinto Cabral. From what I understand of it,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] John A Souza

Yeah, the computer doesn't know the scientific word "endogamy." So stick a Post-It to your monitor with the spelling. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] John A Souza

Thanks, no matter how I changed the vowels, it didn't come out right!! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Nancy Jean,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] John A Souza

Nancy Jean, you made a typo in his email addy. He's probably doing genealogy. Group admins can log into the admin page to see when that person last logged into their genealogy page. He has a recent log in time period. Rosemarie, it's endogamy with an "e," which is better than saying we're a bunch

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baptism translation please. searching for Maria Theresa Maciel, Pico

Thank you! I haven't even started to look for the marriages yet... On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > On the Azores GenWeb, I've got the 3 times periods, some key words posted > (a scaled down version from the word list), and a fairly clear record and a >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE NAMES

Carmen, The names are on the 2nd page. This is a really clear record and a good one to try to train yourself with. Use this link to look for key marriage terms and for the format as well: https://goo.gl/ny1kGM Yes, August 1879. First word is "Aos" for "On the." The next word is the date. It

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baptism translation please. searching for Maria Theresa Maciel, Pico

As regards to the AM vs. PM? Where is says "nove hora do dia" may mean during the day, whereas they might use "noite" for night? Kind of wild to think that with that information I could plot an astrological chart. On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:50 PM, 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy <

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baptism translation please. searching for Maria Theresa Maciel, Pico

It says 9 hours of the day. I believe day "dia" is used for a.m. whereas night "noite" is used for p.m. So if you saw "tres horas do noite," I believe that would refer to 3 p.m. in the afternoon, not 3 a.m. A native speaker should be able to confirm or not. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baptism translation please. searching for Maria Theresa Maciel, Pico

Gayle, Thank you for your help! Yes, I know that this will be good practice & lucky that I found an easy one for starters. On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 12:50 PM, 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy < azores@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Susan, > > It says essentially: Maria was baptized on 3 Sep 1865

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baptism translation please. searching for Maria Theresa Maciel, Pico

On the Azores GenWeb, I've got the 3 times periods, some key words posted (a scaled down version from the word list), and a fairly clear record and a line by line translation in English. Baptisms, marriages, and deaths. https://goo.gl/ny1kGM Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] John A Souza

The new buzz word is Indogamy (sp???) but it means that we show closer cousinship because of all of the intermarriage! My grandparents are 6th cousins also and they had no idea!! One from Santo Antonio and one from Ribeira da Areia and both going to church in Norte Grande!! Crazy genealogy we have

[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE NAMES

hi everyone i can't figure out most of the names on #42 - maria augusta http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1870-1879_item1/P280.html marriage august ? 1879 thank you carmen     -- For options, such as changing

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] John A Souza

I'm so confused right now! I hope John A Souza is still doing genealogy! He shows as a 2nd cousin to me in FTDNA, 3rd to both of my siblings, and 5th to my paternal uncle John..the problem is that he has a good tree that clearly shows we have 2 sets of common great grandparents and I'm

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] John A Souza

Marilyn, I know that I match several of your kits. We have to connect somewhere! We should have had Cheri work with both of us while we were in SLC, I didn't even think of it! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant'

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baptism translation please. searching for Maria Theresa Maciel, Pico

Susan, It says essentially: Maria was baptized on 3 Sep 1865 but born 21 Aug 1865 at 9 o'clock (here's where my skills are deplete-am or pm ?) , daughter of Antonio Pereira da Rosa, farmer, and Maria Theresa, housewife. Both from this village. (It actually says that separately for each person

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] John A Souza

Rosemarie, Gilbert Machado is one of the kits that I manage. He is my mother's 1st cousin. His dad and my grandfather were brothers. On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci wrote: > Nancy, when I bring you up in FTdna and do an 'in common with' he doesn't > show

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baptism translation please. searching for Maria Theresa Maciel, Pico

I never should have said that I had "most" of it figured out. Part of that was due to the excitement that I had found it (Eureka!) and the fact that I was in delirium @ 2:30 in the morning when I posted it. I stayed up until 4:30, but then opted to sleep on it & look with fresh eyes again this

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] John A Souza

Nancy, when I bring you up in FTdna and do an 'in common with' he doesn't show and you don't show with any of my matches! That is really weird. John A. also shows in common with Gilbert Machado and John Marks Souza and Jessie Lemos. Jessie I know is a connection thru my Grandfather's line on to

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] John A Souza

Nancy, he is showing as a 3rd to 5th cousin to me also. I think that I corresponded with him at one time and we couldn't find any connection, only 33 cM's or so in common. I will look and see if I can find the email! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and

[AZORES-Genealogy] John A Souza

Greetings, I'm looking for a DNA 2nd cousin at FTDNA...John A Souza. the email listed for him doesn't work. Does anyone know him or perhaps he's even reading this message. Hopeful, Nancy Jean Baptista -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Attending the Azores Conference and Joao Ventura

He helped me as well. He found my great grandparents record of marriage and other documents. He told me my Sao Jorge ancestor go back to Vikings. I'm still researching but it's slow going. I have yet to find a person who is a cousin. Joao Ventura is very professional and willing to help.