Deb, I've been meaning to get in touch with you, I'm sending you a private
email with my latest information. I've also been wanting to get my tree on
FTDNA but I have some obstacles to overcome.
On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 1:07:11 PM UTC-8, DBM wrote:
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> Hi Cheri
>
> In 2013, Pat Girard
Here is the baptism record for the mother Maria... It starts on the page
before and continues on this page.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1860-1869/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1860-1869_item1/P193.html
I will try and do more on the father Manuel tomorrow if
Hi Cheri,
I know Manuel and Maria had the follow children, Mary J, Maria, Manuel Jr,.
and Antone. I wasn't 100% when they actually immigrated because the date
kept changing on the census information so depending on when they came is
the only way to know which children were born in the US.
Since
You said your immigrant ancestors had 2 children: Anthony and Manuel.
Sounds like things don't match. I thought you told me they married in
America. Then had kids. This woman married there and had kids there. Maybe
she married there had more in America too.
The census info you provided never
Ramona,
I will see what I can do tomorrow.
"E"
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:26 PM, ramona nason
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> Thank you very much "E",
>
> I have a tree on Ancestry if that would help.
> The earliest I have found is 1910 census records, they were living in
> Sausalito
Hi Cheri,
E (not sure his real name) found the ships the came over on. He sent me the
information in a private email. I'm not sure how he found it on Ancestry.
Here is the information which lead me to the Passportes List.
- Maria Bento M. Fonseca came to the U. S. on the ship "S.S. Canopic
Thank you very much "E",
I have a tree on Ancestry if that would help.
The earliest I have found is 1910 census records, they were living in Sausalito
California. My Great Grandmothers maiden name was Correia.
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Hi Mara and E,
Wow there are ALOT of Marias and Manuels in this family Thank you for
all the help!
So the next step is to look at the baptism records for the 3 children
in Faial da Terra, Povoacao?
On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 3:36:11 PM UTC-7, Kim S wrote:
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> Hello - I am hoping
Kim,
Why a Maria Bento de Mello? She is a married woman, born c. 1869, with 3
children already. What research in America has lead you to a Maria Bento de
Mello? Why not a Maria de Jesus Mello? Why not Maria de Simas de Mello,
#719?
Margaret,
Good pointI did not notice they were travelling on the same
passport...duh!!
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Rick,
Thank you for this information. I am just learning how to use the FTDNA site.
Best, Deb When I searched for ancestors, I found friends!
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Subject: RE:
Elaine, seeing they're travelling on the same passport, they in all
probabilities are related.
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:15 PM, "E" Sharp wrote:
> Margaret,
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> Thanks, I thought so but was not sure it was a Z. I cannot read these
> recordsno hownever
Margaret,
Thanks, I thought so but was not sure it was a Z. I cannot read these
recordsno hownever havenever will, I guess. I do think she is
related somehow to Maria Bento Mello.
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Ramona,
I am changing the subject line to reflect your line. Where did they live
in the U. S.? What were her children's names? Do not need to list living
ones. I will try to help you.
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Elaine, reading it as Maria Rosa
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:10 PM, "E" Sharp wrote:
> Margaret and Kim,
>
> Bingo!! I knew this list would come through for her. Now we can go
> looking for the kids baptism records. Margaret did you notice the Maria
> after son Manuel...is
Margaret and Kim,
Bingo!! I knew this list would come through for her. Now we can go
looking for the kids baptism records. Margaret did you notice the Maria
after son Manuel...is she Maria Rosa or Maria ?? and I think she is related
somehow but not sure how
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sorry, missed out on travel companion part. She had 3 children: Maria,
Maria and Manuel. Ages: 3, 2 11 respectively. It does not name the father
of the children.
Under the same passport # 617, passenger # 1333 Maria Roza (Rosa) 37 years
old. Parents Manuel Fonseca and Maria Bento.
On Wed,
Hi Kim,
She came from Faial da Terra, Povoacao.
She was married, 35 years old
Parents: Manuel Pereira and Maria de Melo
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Kim S wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I found my great-grand mother on the Passportes List, but can not read
> where she came
Thanks for the warning Cheri! I will watch out for that now!
P.S.
lol I got all excited and was checking citcem for topo then realized it was
just your exambple :-)
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Hello All,
I found my great-grand mother on the Passportes List, but can not read
where she came from. Also the name of her travel companion. Any help would
be greatly appreciated!
It's the line with entry 617 (1329-1333) - Maria Bento de Mello.
Hi Mara,
I found one Secia in Portugal born in 1890 and died in 1979 in Lisbon. He
is also Manuel Secia and came to the US for a brief period but lived most
of his life on the mainland of Portugal. He has one reminding grandson Joao
and a great grandson Pedro. I am in contact with Pedro. He
HI,
Your post made on Fonseca caught my interest, I am also looking for
Fonseca. I was always told that my Great Great Grandfather was Fonseca, and
when he came over to this country he changed his name to Cardoza. Why, no
one knows. My Aunt who is still living says her Mother was names
You both need to update your trees on your FTDNA Page so that they show your
relations ship to each other. Then mark each other as Identified Relationships.
I also recommend that you do not privatize
Rick
Family Tree DNA Co-Administrator
Azores DNA Project
Azores DNA Project
Hi,
Yes, Sécia is used as a last name. There's someone with this name on Face
Book. It is also the name of a flower, cultivated in most gardens and
backyards on the islands, sécias, could spot them a distance away for their
bright colours, pinks, oranges and purple.
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at
Is it possible that "Cecis" is mis-transcribed? Couldn't the name have
been Manuel Cecia Fonseca, and then the spelling of "Cecia" changed to
"Secia"? The sound would have been the same.
Linda
On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 2:21:55 PM UTC-8, "E" Sharp wrote:
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> John,
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> It was a great
E,
You are amazing! Thank you s much!
Kim
On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 2:25:20 PM UTC-7, "E" Sharp wrote:
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> Kim,
>
> They came to the U. S. under the surname Fonseca. Maybe they used the
> Secia (note FonSECA) in the U. S. I am going to send you further
> information to you
John,
It was a great guess on my part but I found their ship's records to the U.
S. it lists his name as Manuel Cecis Fonseca so maybe this is where he it
comes from. I am trying to find him on Passportes. He came from Sao
Miguel on the ship Vancouver arriving in Boston May 23, 1903. Any help
That is a great hypothesis and I bet it will prove out to be the case. Fonseca,
''seca...secia". If it turns out to be the case let us know. Fact is often
stranger than fiction.
John
On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 4:25 PM, "E" Sharp"
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Kim,
They came to the
Kim,
They came to the U. S. under the surname Fonseca. Maybe they used the
Secia (note FonSECA) in the U. S. I am going to send you further
information to you personal email address.
"E"
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Kim S wrote:
> Hi E!
>
> I found that publication and
Have you found any of their ship's record coming into the US?
"E"
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Hi E!
I found that publication and added the pictures to my tree on MyHeritage.
The only Secias in the US are from Manuel's two sons Anthony and Manuel Jr.
I'm trying to find the name in the Azores and that's the road block.
Thanks for looking into the name for me!
Kim
On Wednesday, January
Google the Early Settlere of Mattapoisett Book 2 search Secia and you will see
Mary's De Mello grandmother came from Sao Miguel, Azores. Interesting story and
many pictures of the family.
"E"
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Are they they ones in MA who came to US him 1902 her 1903. Maybe the ships
record may say where the came from or give you more accurate data to find them
in Passportes??
"E"
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Thanks for letting me know, Linda! Looking forward to seeing you too.
Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily
On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 8:27 AM, linda wrote:
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>
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Hi Rosemarie,
I'll be at the Roundup and look forward to seeing you again,
:)
Linda
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Hi - I am unsure where they originated from, I only know the Azores right
now. I saw Sao Miguel on a US Census but they could have just left from
there. Cheri said from my DNA the middle islands are the most likely.
On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 8:19:23 AM UTC-7, EResendes wrote:
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> Do
Do you know where he was from. I have seen Secio (nickname) in Faial da
Terra, Sao Miguel but it isn't very common.
On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 5:36:11 PM UTC-5, Kim S wrote:
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> Hello - I am hoping someone can help me or point me in the right
> direction.
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> My great-grand parents
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