Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-10 Thread EHsilveira
Thank you. Emil Silveira - Original Message - From: Karlushko To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 23:36:31 - (UTC) Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem Bem family, in Brazil, that we know came around 1748 from Pico Island Karlushko - Itajai/SC/Brasil - New York/USA

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-10 Thread Karlushko
, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano, Bertemes, Reinert, Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus. --- Em sáb, 10/7/10, ehsilve...@comcast.net escreveu: De: ehsilve...@comcast.net Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem Para: azores@googlegroups.com Data

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-10 Thread EHsilveira
2010 18:37:25 - (UTC) Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem Great post cousin Emil!!! Antonia de Bem & Manuel Almeida, our ancestors in common, from Cedros, Faial are my 8th ggrandparents. Unfortunately, their birth dates & ancestral origins are unknown according to the notes that Faial re

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-10 Thread Patricia Butcher
Great post cousin Emil!!! Antonia de Bem & Manuel Almeida, our ancestors in common, from Cedros, Faial are my 8th ggrandparents. Unfortunately, their birth dates & ancestral origins are unknown according to the notes that Faial researcher, Helder Oliveira, wrote. Patricia At 10:32 AM 7/10/20

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-10 Thread Cheri Mello
Repost for Emil: silveira.emil at gmail.com Hi to all, I have listed the following referring to the “de Bem” found in my file for anyone who is interested. Antonia de Bem married to Manuel Almeida both born in Cedros, Faial are my 9th great grandparents. Antonio Rodrigues de Bem born abt 1658 i

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-09 Thread Cheri Mello
Karlushko, Most forms in America have a first name field and a surname field. There is no field for a pre-surname. So if your first name is Ricardo, then your last name is da Silva and if you put da Silva in the surname field, surnames must be capitalized so they wind up putting Da Silva. Some

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-09 Thread Karlushko
: Jesse Pacheco Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem Para: azores@googlegroups.com Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Julho de 2010, 22:04 Cheri, Thank you for taking the time to write such a thorough explanation. I had always accepted that things were confused but never really thought about the reasons

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-09 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Jesse, Since Ancestry's home base is in Utah, they are probably going to go by the American standard of doing things. I can't remember all the genealogy programs at the moment, but some of them have an option to assign the father's surname or to turn that feature off. You might check to see if

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-09 Thread Jesse Pacheco
Cheri, Thank you for taking the time to write such a thorough explanation. I had always accepted that things were confused but never really thought about the reasons why. This is not the only area where the Portuguese names don't "mesh" with other, more common languages in genealogy. I like h

Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-09 Thread Cheri Mello
Karlushko, English people don't put "DeBem," "DaSilva", etc. Americans do. I don't know about the Canadians and how they handle it. Since America was settled initially by many English, who don't use prefixes with their surnames, they didn't know what to do with prefixes. So they ran them toget

Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-09 Thread Karlushko
res, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus. --- Em sex, 9/7/10, Lionel Holmes escreveu: De: Lionel Holmes Assunto: Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem Para: azores@googlegroups.com Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Julho de 2010, 16:51 Strange. But thanks. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:32 PM, "E" Sharp wrote:

Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-09 Thread Cheri Mello
When researching your immigrant ancestor in America (not sure about Canada), you have to try the prefix with and without the space. De Bem and then try Debem. de mello and DeMello. Da Silva and dasilva. Etc, etc. And then try the Anglizations of the name. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Rese

Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-09 Thread Lionel Holmes
Strange. But thanks. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:32 PM, "E" Sharp wrote: > Karlushko, > > Debem De bem - I posted this the way it was listed on Ancestry. When I > searched Bem on Ancestry, I gave those results. When I searched for de bem, > there was nothing. When I put the two together debem, I

Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-09 Thread "E" Sharp
Karlushko, Debem De bem - I posted this the way it was listed on Ancestry. When I searched Bem on Ancestry, I gave those results. When I searched for de bem, there was nothing. When I put the two together debem, I found the results I posted. I leave it to listers to separate the two. "E" --

Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-09 Thread Karlushko
: bellema...@gmail.com Assunto: Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem Para: "azores" Data: Sexta-feira, 9 de Julho de 2010, 12:11 Here are a couple of more from Ancestry. Listed under debem New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Francisco Debem Arrival Date: 23 Jun 1942 Birth Year

Re: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-09 Thread bellemarco
Here are a couple of more from Ancestry. Listed under debem New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Francisco Debem Arrival Date: 23 Jun 1942 Birth Year: abt 1916 Age: 26 Ethnicity/Race/Nationality: Portuguese Port of Departure: Lisbon, Portugal Port of Arrival: New York, New York To Balt

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-09 Thread Linda Norton
...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lionel Holmes Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:17 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem Thanks, now I know for sure it's a Portuguese name. Lionel On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:06 PM, "E" Sharp wrote: Lionel, New York Passenger L

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-08 Thread Karlushko
, Santos, Silva, Silveira, Simão, Sodré, Souza, Vieira, Zabuya, Fiorenzano, Bertemes, Reinert, Ottekier, Van der Gocht, de Pres, Hesse, Laux, Schumer, Jungklaus. --- Em qui, 8/7/10, Lionel Holmes escreveu: De: Lionel Holmes Assunto: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem Para: azores@googlegroups.com Data: Quinta

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-08 Thread Lionel Holmes
Thanks, now I know for sure it's a Portuguese name. Lionel On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:06 PM, "E" Sharp wrote: > Lionel, > > New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 > > Name: Amelia Vieira De Bem > Arrival Date: 22 Sep 1931 > Birth Year: abt 1906 > Birth Location: Portugal > Birth Location Other: Lago

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-08 Thread Lionel Holmes
if that helps. > > Gayle > > > -Original Message- > From: azores@googlegroups.com on behalf of Lionel Holmes > Sent: Thu 7/8/2010 11:50 AM > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem > > Does anyone know if Bem is a Portuguese surname? >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-08 Thread "E" Sharp
Lionel, New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Name: Amelia Vieira De Bem Arrival Date: 22 Sep 1931 Birth Year: abt 1906 Birth Location: Portugal Birth Location Other: Lagos Age: 25 Gender: Female Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Portuguese Port of Departure: Lisbon, Portugal Port of Arrival: New York,

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-08 Thread Gayle Machado
Lionel, I've seen some BEM families in Sao Joao on Pico, if that helps. Gayle -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com on behalf of Lionel Holmes Sent: Thu 7/8/2010 11:50 AM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem Does anyone know if Bem is a Portu

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-08 Thread Lionel Holmes
rom: Lionel Holmes > To: azores@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 18:50:15 -0000 (UTC) > Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem > > Does anyone know if Bem is a Portuguese surname? > > Lionel Rocha Holmes > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-08 Thread EHsilveira
Hi Lionel, Yes, I have a few de Bems in my file. Emil Silveira - Original Message - From: Lionel Holmes To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 18:50:15 - (UTC) Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem Does anyone know if Bem is a Portuguese surname? Lionel Rocha Holmes

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-08 Thread Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva
I have never saw it. But I have seen BOM (good). I have seen also BENFEITO from S. Miguel, Azores. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abri

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-08 Thread Cakemom102
We had a portuguese family named Bem here in Woodland. His name was Anthony Bem and his mother lived here also, but I only knew her and Mrs. Bem. Mary Ann In a message dated 7/8/2010 11:51:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lionelholme...@gmail.com writes: Does anyone know if Bem is a Por

[AZORES-Genealogy] Bem

2010-07-08 Thread Lionel Holmes
Does anyone know if Bem is a Portuguese surname? Lionel Rocha Holmes -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation)