Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2015-12-08 Thread JR
t; > > *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com [mailto: > azo...@googlegroups.com ] *Em nome de *Júlio > *Enviada:* 7 de dezembro de 2015 15:23 > *Para:* Azores Genealogy <azo...@googlegroups.com > > *Cc:* shi...@digitalpath.net > *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2015-12-08 Thread Manita M
llegre > escreveu: >> >> See below in red. I haven't worked on this line in a long, long time. I >> got some of the info from geneall.net. AND some from George Pacheco, >> plus other people. >> Shirley in CA >> >> - Original Message - >>

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2015-12-08 Thread Manita M
glegroups.com > *Cc:* Shirley Allegre <shir...@digitalpath.net> > *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas > > > > On the bottom half of page 102, as pointed out by Julio, there is a > reference to: > > "LOPO DÍAS, DA MAIA, MEU PARENTE" &g

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2015-12-08 Thread Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas On the bottom half of page 102, as pointed out by Julio, there is a reference to: "LOPO DÍAS, DA MAIA, MEU PARENTE" Since this document was written in November 1511, can you please check your family trees for this man being alive at

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2015-12-07 Thread Júlio
Message - > *From:* Ângela Loura > *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Monday, November 02, 2015 10:07 AM > *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas > > Yes, in the meantime i started reading the hole thread and was looking at > the info in

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2015-11-03 Thread Shirley Allegre
10:07 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas Yes, in the meantime i started reading the hole thread and was looking at the info in geneall 2015-11-02 18:01 GMT+00:00 Manita M <manita.morg...@gmail.com>: It's in Spain. Baesa, Galiza, Spain. C

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2015-11-02 Thread Ângela Loura
Yes, in the meantime i started reading the hole thread and was looking at the info in geneall 2015-11-02 18:01 GMT+00:00 Manita M : > It's in Spain. > > Context - here is a post I made to a Spanish genealogy group: >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2015-11-02 Thread Ângela Loura
Olá Manita, Do you mean Benavente in Portugal (mainland)? 2015-11-02 17:34 GMT+00:00 Manita M : > Hola! > > Is there anyone on this list that can share more information on the > history and story beyond what JR provided for João Afonso das Grotas Fundas? > > I'm

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2015-11-02 Thread Manita M
It's in Spain. Context - here is a post I made to a Spanish genealogy group: my 13x great grandfather was Joao Afonso de Pimentel birth circa 1400's in ? and died 02-Sep-1512 in Sao Miguel, Azores, PORTUGAL. His parents are Alfonso de Pimentel y Enriquez, III conde de Benavente (born 1432 and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2015-11-02 Thread Manita M
Hola! Is there anyone on this list that can share more information on the history and story beyond what JR provided for João Afonso das Grotas Fundas? I'm heading to Portugal on the 14th and I'm seriously considering a detour to Benavente, Spain but would like to be armed with more information.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2015-09-02 Thread JR
More or less, Grotas Fundas, or a little bit more inland; but it is difficult terrain, and undeveloped, so few people lived beyond the actual neighbourhood. It is all hilly area and that's where they would go work their small parcels of land or the larger ones owned by the wealthy landowners.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2015-09-02 Thread JR
Yes that would be the same trail. I was afraid of that, notice the red warning at top, the trail is now closed. It seems heavy rains caused some areas to be overrun with mudslides, so the authorities closed it down until future notice. I was told you can still take the trail by a walkaround,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2015-09-02 Thread Manita M
Thank you KINDLY! This is VERY HELPFUL. I am DEFINITELY going now that I have such detailed instructions on how to find it. I am going to try to do that hike. I love hiking and I want to walk in the footpath of our ancestors, so this is going to be particularly special for me. Thank you for

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2015-09-01 Thread manita.morgado
I would like the answer to that question too! I have a few questions: 1. What is the story? I tried to read the section on him in "Familias Antigas Povoação" but my Portuguese is limited. I only recognize words ...something about torture, abandon, going to Rome to ask the Pope for

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2015-09-01 Thread Cheri Mello
That "Ribeira Quente, limit of the freguesia de Ponta Garca" meant Grotas Fundas? I thought it basically meant the edge of town. I have a lot of ancestors from the "limit!" Things that I learn from this list! Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2015-09-01 Thread JR
I will let people more knowledgeable about Joao Afonso discuss his history and story. For now I can tell you that Grotas Fundas is a neighbourhood, even today, on the eastern border of the village of Ponta Garca. Because of the hills and mountains, the town of Ponta Garca ends there and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2015-05-24 Thread brownat68
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas Does anyone have the article written by Miguel de Figueiredo Corte-Real published in the Boletim do Instituto Histórico da Ilha Terceira, Separata do Volume XLIV – 1986, “Descendentes dos Condes de Benavente Radicados nos Açores

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2013-07-17 Thread George Pacheco
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas Does anyone have the article written by Miguel de Figueiredo Corte-Real published in the Boletim do Instituto Histórico da Ilha Terceira, Separata do Volume XLIV – 1986, “Descendentes dos Condes de Benavente Radicados nos Açores desde o século

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2013-07-17 Thread Manoel Cesar
died before 18 Aug 1725. Francisca married Manuel Pereira Fagundes son of Antonio Fagundes Alferes and Catarina Pereira in Faial da Terra- NS da G From: mances man...@gmail.com To: azo...@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:26 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das

[AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

2013-07-16 Thread mances
Does anyone have the article written by Miguel de Figueiredo Corte-Real published in the Boletim do Instituto Histórico da Ilha Terceira, Separata do Volume XLIV – 1986, “Descendentes dos Condes de Benavente Radicados nos Açores desde o século XV” ? I descend from Ana Afonso married to