RE: [backstage] EMI 'in no DRM deal'

2007-04-03 Thread Jason Cartwright
Yes, of course. However, I said more people put the unDRMed file on the torrents. The file without DRM will be easier to distribute, therefore perhaps more people will. J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Crossland Sent: 02 April 2007

[backstage] xmltv.radiotimes.com

2007-04-03 Thread David Greaves
Hi I just joined the list to find out about the xmltv feed :) When I got a couple of emails I found the link to the archives. The last message about this seems to be on the 29th when the site came back on air. However, as people probably realise the data isn't being updated anymore. Does

Re: [backstage] xmltv.radiotimes.com

2007-04-03 Thread Peter Bowyer
On 03/04/07, David Greaves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I just joined the list to find out about the xmltv feed :) When I got a couple of emails I found the link to the archives. The last message about this seems to be on the 29th when the site came back on air. However, as people probably

Re: [backstage] EMI 'in no DRM deal'

2007-04-03 Thread Andy
On 03/04/07, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, of course. However, I said more people put the unDRMed file on the torrents. The file without DRM will be easier to distribute, therefore perhaps more people will. Apart from the fact that once the DRM is stripped no one else has to

Re: [backstage] EMI 'in no DRM deal'

2007-04-03 Thread Kirk Northrop
Kim Plowright wrote: You'd pay $30 and up for an album on CD? Are you mad? I suppose you do get a convenient hard copy backup too... Apple won't be changing the album price. -- From the North, this is Kirk - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

Re: [backstage] EMI 'in no DRM deal'

2007-04-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 03/04/07, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that many CDs have some form of DRM on them. And that recently the publishers stopped putting DRM on CDs, because they've realised that hurting their customers only hurts them. -- Regards, Dave - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion

Re: [backstage] EMI 'in no DRM deal'

2007-04-03 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Jason! On 03/04/07, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, of course. However, I said more people put the unDRMed file on the torrents. The file without DRM will be easier to distribute, therefore perhaps more people will. The point about this Apple/EMI deal is that they have costed

Re: [backstage] EMI 'in no DRM deal'

2007-04-03 Thread Tim Cowlishaw
On 4/3/07, Daniel Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that many CDs have some form of DRM on them. I was under the impression that DRM'd CDs were flawed, and have largely stopped being sold? (Not to mention the bad public reaction of people using their pc as a hifi buying a cd only to find

Re: [backstage] EMI 'in no DRM deal'

2007-04-03 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Tim! On 03/04/07, Tim Cowlishaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in areas of the world where internet access is not yet as common as here, DRM is much more prevalent, as they are attempting to lock down the recorded music market *before* pervasive internet access becomes a problem for their

RE: [backstage] EMI 'in no DRM deal'

2007-04-03 Thread Jason Cartwright
Excellent article from The Register... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/03/emi_apple_drm_analysis/ J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Plowright Sent: 03 April 2007 14:16 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] EMI

Re: [backstage] EMI 'in no DRM deal'

2007-04-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 03/04/07, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent article from The Register... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04/03/emi_apple_drm_analysis/ Concluding line: Do we cease to pay artists completely, or do we move to a model where music is a service? Thanks to EMI and Apple,

RE: [backstage] EMI 'in no DRM deal'

2007-04-03 Thread Jason Cartwright
The BBC delivers quite a bit of music as a service... bit different to what the author meant though I'm sure. When does radio become a music distribution service? People like last.fm are riding a fine line here right? J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [backstage] xmltv.radiotimes.com

2007-04-03 Thread David Greaves
On 03/04/07, David Greaves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a clue? Peter Bowyer wrote: No more than you I guess So for those xmltv users here on the BBC backstage I saw this message from Nick in another couple of lists and thought it worth forwarding here - cc'ing Nick out of

Re: [backstage] EMI 'in no DRM deal'

2007-04-03 Thread Dave Crossland
On 03/04/07, Jason Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When does radio become a music distribution service? When it goes out over TCP/IP, because of http://streamripper.sourceforge.net People like last.fm are riding a fine line here right? I heard they aren't licensed.

Re: [backstage] EMI 'in no DRM deal'

2007-04-03 Thread Richard P Edwards
Hi all, I am surprised that this thread has pointed so strongly toward the price hike and quality as being risky. Please let me be concise with some of the facts Steve Jobs noted that about 3% of music on all iPods is copied from CD.. CD that is already non-DRM and sold by the major