RE: [backstage] Multicast Trial

2007-04-10 Thread Andrew Bowden
As far as I understand it, it was more a case of the BBC (and ITV) trialing broadcasting via the multicast infrastructure - moreso than it was a trial of consumers actually watching the content. I was on a ja.net provider for an entire year and not once could I actually watch the

RE: [backstage] Multicast Trial

2007-04-10 Thread Brian Butterworth
Has there EVER been a multicast system that's worked well? I tried it on a large BT network some years ago and when it worked it was a network management nightmare. Thankfully it worked badly or not-at-all Brian Butterworth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [backstage] Multicast Trial

2007-04-10 Thread Jason Cartwright
I used the multicast streams when Easynet were on an old trial. Worked a treat. Also, I believe the multicast streams were opened up to all ISPs for a few days when the BBC was experiencing high traffic after the 7/7 London bombings, which was useful. J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [backstage] BBC Freesat and OpenTV

2007-04-10 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Hi Brian, Thanks as ever for your comments and questions - but I wonder if the BBC's developer community mailing list is the place for this question? You may have better luck, with a more informed response, by putting the question to the relevant arm of the BBC - for the moment I'm not sure who

RE: [backstage] xmltv.radiotimes.com

2007-04-10 Thread Kim Plowright
I've let the head of New Media at BBC Worldwide Magazines know about this, by the way. Kim However, as people probably realise the data isn't being updated anymore. Does anyone have a clue? Just had a boilerplate response from them - seems unlikely my email reached a human, let

Re: [backstage] xmltv.radiotimes.com

2007-04-10 Thread Richard Lockwood
The feeds appear to be back up and being updated, so thanks to all who may have helped! Cheers, Rich. On 4/10/07, Kim Plowright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've let the head of New Media at BBC Worldwide Magazines know about this, by the way. Kim However, as people probably realise the

RE: [backstage] Multicast Trial

2007-04-10 Thread zen16083
Multicast with Zen.co.uk worked sporadically. When it worked, it worked well. When it didn't, it didn't show anything other than a blank video screen. Just curious and apologies for being off topic, but have noticed, post Vista launch, that quite a lot of people seem to be switching from Windows

[backstage] OS choice (was: Multicast Trial)

2007-04-10 Thread Jason Cartwright
I've recently 'switched' [1] (damn you Apple marketing dept!) from an XP desktop to a Macbook as my main computer. Its been almost flawless (unlike all the Vista problems we keep hearing about), and a bit of revelation after being a complete Windowsite since 3.0. I've met 3 people that have

Re: [backstage] OS choice

2007-04-10 Thread Kirk Northrop
Jason Cartwright wrote: I've recently 'switched' [1] (damn you Apple marketing dept!) from an XP desktop to a Macbook as my main computer. Its been almost flawless (unlike all the Vista problems we keep hearing about), and a bit of revelation after being a complete Windowsite since 3.0. Sorry,

RE: [backstage] OS choice (was: Multicast Trial)

2007-04-10 Thread zen16083
I could add quite a few to that anecdotal tally: people who have switched to Macs (Mac Book Pros, especially) and people who say they will switch once Leopard is released. Know a lot of people who last year were planning on switching to Vista - some did and have already gone back to XP or changed

Re: [backstage] OS choice (was: Multicast Trial)

2007-04-10 Thread Matthew Lamont
I used Solaris on a workstation for many years until OS X was released on the mac. I have two generations of laptops with OS X (one personal, one work) and when I change jobs in a couple of months I will get a new Macbook Pro. For me it is perfect as all of my work is done on farms

RE: [backstage] BBC Freesat and OpenTV

2007-04-10 Thread Brian Butterworth
Oh right I thought that as there were quite a few BBC development people on here, someone might know... It is a system being developed by the BBC... I've tried lots of other approaches and I've had a stonewall for the last 18 months... Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -Original

Re: [backstage] xmltv.radiotimes.com

2007-04-10 Thread David Greaves
Kim Plowright wrote: I've let the head of New Media at BBC Worldwide Magazines know about this, by the way. Kim Thanks Kim, much appreciated :) For information I sent an email off to Nick on another list (about Myth TV - an opensource PVR) saying: It would be interesting to know if

Re: [backstage] BBC Freesat and OpenTV

2007-04-10 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Hi Brian - let's take this off-list now please. m On 10/4/07 13:55, Brian Butterworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh right I thought that as there were quite a few BBC development people on here, someone might know... It is a system being developed by the BBC... I've tried lots of other

RE: [backstage] OS choice, assume= ass u me

2007-04-10 Thread zen16083
Seems like a lot of Mac growth in a single month.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Butterworth Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:04 PM To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE: [backstage] OS choice, assume= ass u me Isn't the first,

Re: [backstage] OS choice, assume= ass u me

2007-04-10 Thread Peter Bowyer
But Brian - you've assumed in turn that the user community represented by those two figures 6 months apart is the same people. Only then are these hard evidence. What adjustment would need to be made to take account of a change in virginradio's demographic, nature of any promotions running,

RE: [backstage] OS choice, assume= ass u me

2007-04-10 Thread zen16083
I realised the error after sending the message ;-( Still, a significant rise for the Macs and a further indication that the OS ground does appear to be shifting. Would be interesting to know if that is reflected in stats for other companies. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[backstage] new prototype, geoRss feeds for travel data

2007-04-10 Thread Michael Pritchard
Hi All, i posted this a week or so to the backstage site but it hasn't been posted so I thought i'd send it here. In the absence of any GeoRss support to the backstage travel data feeds I've produced my own from the tpeg files. see http://bbc.blueghost.co.uk/about_geoRss.html, includes details

Re: [backstage] new prototype, geoRss feeds for travel data

2007-04-10 Thread Davy Mitchell
You're waiting too eh? :-) Davy -- Davy Mitchell Blog - http://www.latedecember.co.uk/sites/personal/davy/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/daftspaniel Skype - daftspaniel needgod.com - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit

RE: [backstage] OS choice, assume= ass u me

2007-04-10 Thread Brian Butterworth
What you say is correct, I was merely illustrating that real data is far more important than I've done this so I'm assuming that everyone else is... Brian Butterworth (the only person on Earth that likes Windows Vista) www.ukfree.tv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [backstage] OS choice, assume= ass u me

2007-04-10 Thread Brian Butterworth
Yes, but you can always get a massive percentage increase from something when it starts out at 1.75% of the market. Brian Butterworth www.ukfree.tv -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 April 2007 14:47 To:

RE: [backstage] new prototype, geoRss feeds for travel data

2007-04-10 Thread Brian Butterworth
Michael, This is excellent! The only minor point is the too much data you get from Google when you start the 'all areas' link. Any chance you could split Sussex into it's two parts? It's been that way since 1189... I might have to use your code to plot all the TV transmitters with

RE: [backstage] OS choice, assume= ass u me

2007-04-10 Thread Christopher Woods
Pfft. I'm rather dismissive of numbers and comparisons such as these, particularly when over 74.3% of all statistics are made up anyway. -Original Message- From: Brian Butterworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 April 2007 16:53 To: backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk Subject: RE:

RE: [backstage] new prototype, geoRss feeds for travel data

2007-04-10 Thread Matthew Cashmore
Michael - this is fantastic - I love the way this works. We're having a few problems with the current backstage site as most of you know - it's kinda held together with spit, hope and sticky back plastic (the old stuff Blue Peter don't want). But we're well on the way to having our new sparkly

RE: [backstage] new prototype, geoRss feeds for travel data

2007-04-10 Thread Brian Butterworth
I didn't realise it was so easy to do this with Google maps... I kind of switched to maps.live.com because there are maps of Brighton on them. Anyway, I've done another version for the BBC transmitter engineering information. Not quite as useful as traffic information, but here it is:

Re: [backstage] new prototype, geoRss feeds for travel data

2007-04-10 Thread Michael Pritchard
thanks for all the comments, i'll do my best to work on these comments when i get some free time On 10/04/07, mapperz . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, Excellent work, have tracked your blueghost projects and like the mapping integration with the new services from Google Maps KML/KMZ and

RE: [backstage] Multicast Trial

2007-04-10 Thread Gordon Joly
At 09:51 +0100 10/4/07, Brian Butterworth wrote: Has there EVER been a multicast system that's worked well? I tried it on a large BT network some years ago and when it worked it was a network management nightmare. Thankfully it worked badly or not-at-all Brian Butterworth Janet and

RE: [backstage] Multicast Trial

2007-04-10 Thread Christopher Woods
... That are totally reliant on the willingness of each individual higher education institution to implement multicast on their own internal networks to enable the functionality of the wider ja.net network as a whole. I think the whole situation boils down to the simple fact that it's just not