Re: [BackupPC-users] Using rsync for blockdevice-level synchronisation of BackupPC pools

2009-09-10 Thread Adam Goryachev
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Timothy J Massey wrote: > > But the ability to rsync collections of VMDK files to a remote host > *is* appealing. Interesting... > > However, you could achieve the same thing in other ways without > having to run BackupPC in a virtualized guest. You

Re: [BackupPC-users] Using rsync for blockdevice-level synchronisation of BackupPC pools

2009-09-10 Thread Timothy J Massey
Les Mikesell wrote on 09/10/2009 10:38:56 PM: > Maybe I'm not making this clear. I want the physical backuppc host > to be able > to mirror its current 750 GB backuppc partition onto what appears at > the time to > be a virtual partition, but which results in the updating of the files that

Re: [BackupPC-users] Using rsync for blockdevice-level synchronisation of BackupPC pools

2009-09-10 Thread Jeffrey J. Kosowsky
Les Mikesell wrote at about 13:41:58 -0500 on Thursday, September 10, 2009: > Timothy J Massey wrote: > > > > VMware Sever 2.0 supports disks in single files, or split in > > arbitrary-sized pieces (usually 2GB), both fully allocated or > > grow-on-demand. ESX/ESXi only supports single-fil

Re: [BackupPC-users] Using rsync for blockdevice-level synchronisation of BackupPC pools

2009-09-10 Thread Les Mikesell
Timothy J Massey wrote: > >> I know there are there in the form of a directory of files which will be > >> nice for the rsync step. What I want to know is if the physical host >> can see the virtual disk/partition the same way a guest can. There is a >> vmware-mount that I think lets you see t

Re: [BackupPC-users] Looking for Hardware Recommendations

2009-09-10 Thread dan
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: > I am setting up an external backup drive for some Linux/Mac/Windows > computers on a small network plus two remote computers over the 'net. I have > a P4 running Debian, and I need to install a PCI2.2 compliant card with one > or two external

Re: [BackupPC-users] Merge config in per-host config?

2009-09-10 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi, Davide Brini wrote on 2009-09-05 14:32:48 +0100 [Re: [BackupPC-users] Merge config in per-host config?]: > On Saturday 05 September 2009, Craig Barratt wrote: > > Davide, > > > > The basic problem with putting perl expressions in the config file > > (to make settings cumulative) is that it is

Re: [BackupPC-users] Using rsync for blockdevice-level synchronisation of BackupPC pools

2009-09-10 Thread Timothy J Massey
Les Mikesell wrote on 09/10/2009 05:23:20 PM: > Timothy J Massey wrote: > > > >> I thought there was a way to access the vmx image directly from linux, > >> but I don't know if it has to be mounted or if you can see a raw > >> partition. > > > > Depends: are we talking VMware Server, or ESX

Re: [BackupPC-users] Using rsync for blockdevice-level synchronisation of BackupPC pools

2009-09-10 Thread Timothy J Massey
Christian Völker wrote on 09/10/2009 05:36:27 PM: > Thanks for the great mail. It subsummed really nearly everything which > is related to all this. Thank you. I'm glad it helped. > Just one point where you seem to be wrong: > You mentioned "VMware tools" (don't get confused with the "official

[BackupPC-users] Looking for Hardware Recommendations

2009-09-10 Thread Mark Phillips
I am setting up an external backup drive for some Linux/Mac/Windows computers on a small network plus two remote computers over the 'net. I have a P4 running Debian, and I need to install a PCI2.2 compliant card with one or two external Sata ports for one/two external Sata 2 drives in the 1TB+ rang

Re: [BackupPC-users] Using rsync for blockdevice-level synchronisation of BackupPC pools

2009-09-10 Thread Christian Völker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim, > Anyway, the idea of trying to automatically work with VMware images at the > block level without VMware's tools is not that great. True. Thanks for the great mail. It subsummed really nearly everything which is related to all this. Just o

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-10 Thread higuita
hi all On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:04:09 +0100, "Nigel Kendrick" wrote: > domain DOS command called WHAT.COM that returns ERRORLEVEL set to 0-6 > according to the day of week. we use the cygwin gnu date in several scripts, its a lot more useful gdate -d "last week" +%a\\%Y-%m-%d

Re: [BackupPC-users] Using rsync for blockdevice-level synchronisation of BackupPC pools

2009-09-10 Thread Les Mikesell
Timothy J Massey wrote: > >> I thought there was a way to access the vmx image directly from linux, >> but I don't know if it has to be mounted or if you can see a raw >> partition. > > Depends: are we talking VMware Server, or ESX/ESXi? And if we're talking > ESXi, are we talking SAN, NAS o

Re: [BackupPC-users] Using rsync for blockdevice-level synchronisation of BackupPC pools

2009-09-10 Thread Timothy J Massey
Les Mikesell wrote on 09/10/2009 02:41:58 PM: > Timothy J Massey wrote: > > > > VMware Sever 2.0 supports disks in single files, or split in > > arbitrary-sized pieces (usually 2GB), both fully allocated or > > grow-on-demand. ESX/ESXi only supports single-file images, and it is > > designed

Re: [BackupPC-users] Using rsync for blockdevice-level synchronisation of BackupPC pools

2009-09-10 Thread Les Mikesell
Timothy J Massey wrote: > > VMware Sever 2.0 supports disks in single files, or split in > arbitrary-sized pieces (usually 2GB), both fully allocated or > grow-on-demand. ESX/ESXi only supports single-file images, and it is > designed to use VMFS. I thought there was a way to access the vmx

Re: [BackupPC-users] Using rsync for blockdevice-level synchronisation of BackupPC pools

2009-09-10 Thread Timothy J Massey
Les Mikesell wrote on 09/10/2009 12:02:15 PM: > > And I have another idea 'coz of rsync copying the whole .vdmk file over- > > this could be related to access time. Obviously the times changes as the > > file is under continously access from the ESX host. I'll see if I can > > skip the time ide

Re: [BackupPC-users] Using rsync for blockdevice-level synchronisation of BackupPC pools

2009-09-10 Thread Timothy J Massey
Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom wrote on 09/10/2009 12:42:33 PM: > On 09/10 11:02 , Les Mikesell wrote: > > You'll almost certainly end up with an unusable copy if you let the VM > > run while copying > > > To test this, some years ago I actually tried archiving and restoring a > vmware disk image w

Re: [BackupPC-users] 3.1.0 configuration problem

2009-09-10 Thread Timothy J Massey
James Ward wrote on 09/10/2009 12:08:44 PM: > Yeah, I'm not sure how anyone would get that right without help. :-) It is impossible to use correctly. Unfortunately, there's two layers of information needed (share name and excluded paths), and both of them allow arbitrary numbers of options.

Re: [BackupPC-users] Debugging backup failure

2009-09-10 Thread Michael Stowe
> Log level 9, method rsync. Oh, gotcha. Have you tried taking that same command line generated by BackupPC and seeing what happens? -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial.

Re: [BackupPC-users] Debugging backup failure

2009-09-10 Thread James Ward
Log level 9, method rsync. On Sep 10, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Michael Stowe wrote: This server used to back up just fine, then one day it started failing and hasn't successfully backed up since! Can you help me figure out why? What kind of backup and log is this? (It doesn't look like any Ba

Re: [BackupPC-users] Debugging backup failure

2009-09-10 Thread Les Mikesell
James Ward wrote: > This server used to back up just fine, then one day it started failing and > hasn't successfully backed up since! Can you help me figure out why? > Got fatal error during xfer (aborted by signal=PIPE) > Backup aborted by user signal signal=PIPE means your transfer program di

Re: [BackupPC-users] Debugging backup failure

2009-09-10 Thread Michael Stowe
> This server used to back up just fine, then one day it started failing > and hasn't successfully backed up since! Can you help me figure out > why? What kind of backup and log is this? (It doesn't look like any BackupPC logs I'm familiar with, but this could simply be my ignorance.) > [ skipp

[BackupPC-users] Debugging backup failure

2009-09-10 Thread James Ward
This server used to back up just fine, then one day it started failing and hasn't successfully backed up since! Can you help me figure out why? [ skipped 1 lines ] attribSet: dir=f%2f/var/lib/xml-core exists attribSet(dir=f%2f/var/lib/xml-core, file=xml-core, size=304, placeholder=) attribW

Re: [BackupPC-users] Using rsync for blockdevice-level synchronisation of BackupPC pools

2009-09-10 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 09/10 11:02 , Les Mikesell wrote: > You'll almost certainly end up with an unusable copy if you let the VM > run while copying To test this, some years ago I actually tried archiving and restoring a vmware disk image while it was in use. Turns out it worked just fine. That said, the vmware se

Re: [BackupPC-users] 3.1.0 configuration problem

2009-09-10 Thread James Ward
Yeah, I'm not sure how anyone would get that right without help. :-) On Sep 9, 2009, at 9:38 PM, Craig Barratt wrote: Jeffrey writes: Unless I missed a post, I don't see how there is enough data to answer your question whether it is broken or not. It's possible and perhaps even probable th

Re: [BackupPC-users] Using rsync for blockdevice-level synchronisation of BackupPC pools

2009-09-10 Thread Les Mikesell
Christian Völker wrote: > >> Also you might be able to use vmware's snapshots to see how much really >> is changing. > I did this. > I took a VMware snapshot yest evening. And it has been grown within > 12hrs now aprox 5GB. I'll do some further monitoring, but it seem > indeed, there's not so many

[BackupPC-users] backup pc 2.0 ..beta ?

2009-09-10 Thread ADNET Ghislain
Hello, I just wanted to ping the list to know the status of backuppc 3.2. It is beta but it seems some use it allready in prod. Is there any know problems with 3.2.0 , is there any testing we can do to help go from beta to rc and to stable ? -- Cordialement, Ghislain smime.p7s Descriptio

Re: [BackupPC-users] Anecdote about backup of changing zip files

2009-09-10 Thread Nigel Kendrick
Hi Folks, Lively conversation!! A while back, someone asked how the SQL backups are being done - here's my take: Two batch files, two stored procedures and a few command line tools. * The stored procedures were written by an unknown person. One makes a dump of the given database and verifies it

Re: [BackupPC-users] Using rsync for blockdevice-level synchronisation of BackupPC pools

2009-09-10 Thread Christian Völker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, > Also you might be able to use vmware's snapshots to see how much really > is changing. I did this. I took a VMware snapshot yest evening. And it has been grown within 12hrs now aprox 5GB. I'll do some further monitoring, but it seem indeed, ther