Re: Questions regarding old Book and query

2004-03-26 Thread Dick Detweiler
Hi all, Well here is my position on this matter. I have the book under my roof as it was given to me with the best of intentions. I have briefly scanned some pages but don't plan on reading it. The LSA has - rightly - decided not to profit from its sale and I am returning the book to the

Re: Questions regarding old Book and query

2004-03-26 Thread Dr. Mark A. Foster
Richard, A discussion on the spiritual verities of the Gospel ensued. Thei response to my friend's explanations of various matters, e.g. the equality of men and women and the resurrection of the spirit were understood and accepted by them. However, when it was presented \to them that Jesus is

Re: Questions regarding old Book and query

2004-03-26 Thread Larry Marquardt
However, when it was presented to them that Jesus is and was a Servant of God; the denied His Servitude. Not knowing these 'gentle hearted Christian ladies', what is the basis of their belief that Jesus is not a Servant of God? Is it because they view Jesus as the Incarnation of God's essence?

Re: Questions regarding old Book and query

2004-03-26 Thread Susan Maneck
The above having been the warning from Abdu'l-Baha Himself, I am rather surprised that anyone possessing the book would allow it to be placed under anyone's roof while knowing the meaning of the warning. Dear Richard, I'm not at all certain that the quote in question still applies, but if I had

Re: Death penalty

2004-03-26 Thread Ahang Rabbani
Dear Susan, It strikes me from reading the Aqdas that most of the offenses which carry the death penalty are those that would oridinarily be associated with terrorism. Was terrorism really an issue during early 1870s when Baha'u'llah wrote the Aqdas? Was that concept even available to Him?

Re: Death penalty

2004-03-26 Thread Mark A. Foster
Ahang, At 07:25 PM 3/26/2004, you wrote: Sharon and his gang in Israel who murder political leaders and women/children using gunship helicopters, or suicide bombers of Hamas? I should probably keep my mouth shut, but I think it is two sides of one coin - Israel, the terrorist state, and Hamas,

Re: Death penalty

2004-03-26 Thread Mark A. Foster
Richard, At 08:48 PM 3/26/2004, you wrote: I am wondering how I will view these issues you have raised once I finish Chalmers Johnson's new book The Sorrows of Empire. If either of you have read it, I would appreciate a view point. Sounds impressive. Ask me in a month. I just ordered it.

Total War/Death Penalty

2004-03-26 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Susan said: It seems to me that Islamist extremists have stolen a number of pages froma Western book to justify their actions and I think in so doing they pointup the problems inherent in some of these 'pages.' The concept of 'totalwar' is one page, another page is the right to revolt.My

Re: Death penalty

2004-03-26 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
Mark. Good. I am pleased that you think enough of him to read his book. I will await your view even if I finish it first. Richard. - Original Message - From: Mark A. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Baha'i Studies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 6:58 PM Subject: Re: Death

Re: Death penalty

2004-03-26 Thread Mark A. Foster
Susan, At 08:02 PM 3/26/2004, you wrote: While the media may be identifying terrorists on others on the basis of whoever they think is the bad guy I don't think we need to use that criteria. Your definitions are used by some. However, what I refer to as state terrorism would be called war

RE: Sorrows of Empire

2004-03-26 Thread Dick Detweiler
I happen to just be finishing it up myself. I also read Blowback recently. My take: - I wish he would have come off the leftist rhetoric a bit because he is preaching to the choir when he does so and turning off the people who really need to read and understand what he is saying. - His prose

Re: Death penalty

2004-03-26 Thread Don Calkins
On 3/26/04 9:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me that we can define terrorism in an impartial way which identifies the act, not chooses sides between the actors. And a reasonable way of doing that is say that the deliberate targetting of civilians constitutes terrorism. The US