Re: lost link - will never found

2006-04-27 Thread Hasan Elias
If you talk that way, then, Manifestations descend from God :-)[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: > I think men were always men; we are of a different order, as we > are different from Manifestations.Perhaps that is a very good analogy. If Manifestations descend from men, why can't men descend from

Re: Cases when one CAN disobey Assemblies

2006-04-27 Thread Hasan Elias
This is crazy, just my humble opinion[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: "You have all probably heard that 'Abdu'l-Baha said if the local assembly decided to kill Him then those in the community should go along with it."Dear David, In my 35 years as a Baha'i I've never heard that or anything close to it.

Re: RE: Cases when one CAN disobey Assemblies

2006-04-27 Thread David Friedman
>I think there is a bigger problem with putting words in the Master's>mouth. I'd like to see the evidence that He said such a thing.Well, I can tell you that the last time I heard it was a couple weeks ago in a talk by Ali Nakhjavani. Regards,DavidDiscover fun and games at XtraMSN Kids!

RE: RE: Cases when one CAN disobey Assemblies

2006-04-27 Thread Ian Kluge
Dear Susan, So would I. But I have heard it repeated lots. Best wishes, Ian Kluge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 27, 2006 12:53 PM To: Baha'i Studies Subject: Re: RE: Cases when one CAN disobey Assemblies

Re: RE: Cases when one CAN disobey Assemblies

2006-04-27 Thread smaneck
> I think the problem arises only if one reads the Master's statement > literally. I think there is a bigger problem with putting words in the Master's mouth. I'd like to see the evidence that He said such a thing. warmest, Susan The information contained in this e-mail and any attachme

Re: lost link - will never found

2006-04-27 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
What Manifestation of God has not said "I am but a man like you"? - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perhaps that is a very good analogy. If Manifestations descend from men, why can't men descend from animals? The information contained in this e-mail and any att

RE: Cases when one CAN disobey Assemblies

2006-04-27 Thread Ian Kluge
Dear David,   I think the problem arises only if one reads the Master’s statement literally. If we take it as a hyperbolic way of saying that we should obey LSA’s even if we really, really don’t like it, then the problem doesn’t arise.   Since voting to murder someone is illegal, the

Re: Cases when one CAN disobey Assemblies

2006-04-27 Thread smaneck
"You have all probably heard that 'Abdu'l-Baha said if the local assembly decided to kill Him then those in the community should go along with it." Dear David, In my 35 years as a Baha'i I've never heard that or anything close to it. warmest, Susan The information contained in this e

Cases when one CAN disobey Assemblies

2006-04-27 Thread David Friedman
You have all probably heard that 'Abdu'l-Baha said if the local assembly decided to kill Him then those in the community should go along with it.  Thinking about this now it doesn't make sense to me.  As far as how Baha'is are to act, the Universal House of Justice sum it up:    "...Baha'is o

Re: lost link - will never found

2006-04-27 Thread smaneck
> I think men were always men; we are of a different order, as we > are different from Manifestations. Perhaps that is a very good analogy. If Manifestations descend from men, why can't men descend from animals? The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mai