UHJ question

2007-11-21 Thread David Friedman
I am interested to know if the House has the authority to officially declare someone a martyr. Shoghi Effendi was careful in who he applied the word to. I know of a situation a while back where a Baha'i died for their faith, and the House said that person was a martyr. This didn't sit well

Re: UHJ question

2007-11-21 Thread Sen Sonja
I am interested to know if the House has the authority to officially declare someone a martyr. Is there such a thing as an official declaration about someone's spiritual status, in the Bahai Faith? Are you perhaps thinking too much within the framework of the Catholic church, with its lists of

Re: UHJ question

2007-11-21 Thread Susan Maneck
I am interested to know if the House has the authority to officially declare someone a martyr. Shoghi Effendi was careful in who he applied the word to. I know of a situation a while back where a Baha'i died for their faith, and the House said that person was a martyr. This didn't sit well

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-21 Thread Ian Kluge
Dear Ron, I think this will be my last post to you because we are no longer discussing Baha'i-related issues but your objections to my philosophical approach in this discussion. You write, You are taking my words our of context and deliberately misrepresenting what I said. it is not possible

Re: UHJ question

2007-11-21 Thread Susan Maneck
it doesn't mean they have a special spiritual statements. Obviously I meant station, not statement. ;-} The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto (e-mail) is sent by the Johnson County Community College (JCCC) and is intended to be confidential and for the use

Re: Deconstructionism

2007-11-21 Thread firestorm
ian, :The standards of rationality (identity, non-contradiction, excluded middle and sufficient reason) have been tested for millennia and found not only to be true but also universally practiced though not necessarily universally professed. nonsense. relativistic nonsense. the only FoundTruth

RE: skepticism was Re: Deconstructionism

2007-11-21 Thread Ian Kluge
Dear Gilberto, You write, Fair enough. I think there was an earlier e-mail of mine which talked about skepticism which you really didn't give an adequate response to. You had given some specific examples of things you claimed to know for sure and I pointed out to you how they didn't necessarily

Re: What is this knowledge?

2007-11-21 Thread Mike and Dede Moum
From A compilation on Baha'i Education, page 5 In the treasuries of the knowledge of God there lieth concealed a knowledge which, when applied, will largely, though not wholly, eliminate fear. This knowledge, however, should be taught from childhood, as it will greatly aid in its

Re: Deconstructionism

2007-11-21 Thread Sen Sonja
There's a good blog entry by Ismael Velasco entitled Fanaticism or Relativism: Can a Bahá'í be Certain? at http://feeds.feedburner.com/Bahai-Epistolary -- -- -- -- -- The influence of individual souls is and always will be

Re: What is this knowledge?

2007-11-21 Thread Larry Marquardt
Dear Mike, Thank you for taking the time to find this reference. I've never seen this before. Warmest, Larry Mike wrote: (“Epistle to the Son of the Wolf”, p. 32) [19] 1. Regarding this passage, an extract from a letter dated 5 January 1948 written on behalf of Shoghi Effendi to an

RE: Deconstructionism

2007-11-21 Thread Ian Kluge
Dear Firestorm, The meaning of 'compatible' is very simple and straight forward: compatible is not contradictory to the substance or intent of a statement either directly or by logical consequence. Definitional issues are important: it is difficult to have a productive exchange of views if we do