Loïc a changé d'adresse (was: [Concerning claims that D. T. Suzuki's wife was a Baha'i. ] )

2013-09-21 Thread Loïc ROYER
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hello, Merci pour votre message, BUT! J'ai changé d'adresse. Thank you de m'écrire à : loic.royer...@gmail.com See you later very soon! ;) Loïc

Re: Politics on Facebook

2010-10-16 Thread Loïc ROYER
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hello Everybody, This question is frightening me, because of this dictatorial way of spying each others!... As far as I understand, bahais are not supposed to follow one party because this would mean supporting all what this party says, but bahais are invited to ma

Re: Fabricated Hadith

2010-06-28 Thread Loïc ROYER
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear all, Just please let's all remember that they will never be one proof that one prophet, Abraham, Jesus, Mohamad, the Bab or every other, has given us one single word coming from God. Based on this, theology looks like a so little human discussion... Let's believe

Re: Respect for Islam

2010-06-28 Thread Loïc ROYER
The Baha'i Studies Listserv That's what I wanted to say. Thanks! ;-) hajmog a écrit : The Baha'i Studies Listserv No, certitude is something else. There is only One God. Not multiple Gods. Sent by iPhone On Jun 27, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Loïc ROYER wrote: The Baha'i Stu

Re: Respect for Islam

2010-06-27 Thread Loïc ROYER
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Belief is our only certitude! (or what?!) :-) hajmog a écrit : The Baha'i Studies Listserv Yes. :) And sometimes, belief turns into Certitude! Sent by iPhone __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as

Re: Respect for Islam

2010-06-27 Thread Loïc ROYER
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Hajmog, Unfortunatly we don't know God exists, we just believe He is the Way, the Truth and the Life! Unfortunatly we don't know Muhamad, Jesus, Bahaullah (and many others) are not frauds, we just believe they gave us part of the revelation of God! ;-) Loïc hajmo

Re: Respect for Islam

2010-06-27 Thread Loïc ROYER
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Gilberto, You are right when you say that we shouldn't make any distiction between prophets, as the prophets have NOT so much importance, they all were just human but being the tools of God to deliver some revelations. Anyway, we all human give so many importance

Re: Respect for Islam

2010-06-27 Thread Loïc ROYER
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hey everybody, I tried to read carefully and the subject looks like hot between all of us! ;-) Just my experience, being educated in the catholic Church of Rome, there is a clear difference between what is "revelation" (the gospels are "the words of God" and that's wh

Re: Women and Men

2010-05-14 Thread Loïc ROYER
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Hi Tim and Brent, I think the point is when men look at women "with lust" and I believe "lust" could disappear from men's mind as Bahaullah has predicted this. In fact I find very frightening what you said, Tim, about women supposed to be dressed in some way to "provoq

Re: Sects

2010-01-21 Thread Loïc ROYER
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Susan, I'm more a reader than a writer in this, as my english is more commercial than spiritual. But these last exchanges remind me a question I put myself since I am bahai : How baha'is can say they are in friendship with all believers of all one-only-God belie

Re: Marriage - logic of selective observance

2009-10-05 Thread Loïc ROYER
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Susan, I may understand wrong as my english is sometimes too much "commercial" and not so precised to speak about spiritual questions! Do you mean that some laws have been revealed by Bahaullah only to the Iranian believers? Or were they revealed for all humanity

Re: Baha'I laws

2009-10-03 Thread Loïc ROYER
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Regarding alcohol, as the bahai law is based on Bahaullah words telling all human to take care about all substances that could have an influence on their capacity of thinking and judgment, I think we should not take any religious interest for this kind of scientific

Re: illegality of Bahai organizational activities in Iran

2009-02-21 Thread Loïc ROYER
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Susan and Dear all, We all bahais know that the Iranian government doesn't want any bahai activities in Iran. That's a political decision. As long as bahais are teaching a new way to understand the messages of God, they are a real danger for the old-established

Re: give away the sister in the Bible

2009-01-21 Thread Loïc ROYER
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Do you know that some people strongly believe that... Elvis is still alive, singing every night in some little bar somewhere in South America! Hitler has left the burnt body of one of his guard, before leaving for somewhere in Poland, where he still loves to watch the

re: Catholic questions

2007-08-20 Thread Loïc ROYER
Dear David, the question of the infaillibility of the Pope is very discussed by catholic peoples, believing or not into it! Regarding your wondering how such changes in the interpretations could have impact on the Church itself... please consider the history of the popes. Even if they are suppos

Re: Wikipedia article on Baha'u'llah

2007-08-20 Thread Loïc ROYER
t guarantee the proper respect and spiritual attitude of those who view it. You can look at it, there is no sin involved. I would suggest you actually review what the Guardian and the House have to say rather than depending upon "The Book of Hearsay". Regards, Scott

Re: Wikipedia article on Baha'u'llah

2007-08-19 Thread Loïc ROYER
Dear Friends ! As a catholic discovering the bahai faith, I made several research about the photos of Baha'u'llah. At this time, my wonderings were: - If Baha'u'llah is Jesus back to humanity, how can we have all kind of representations of Jesus, and no pictures of Baha'u'llah? - Photos of the ba

Re: Prayer Request

2007-07-30 Thread Loïc ROYER
Dear Ron, I will pray for your daughter Rebecca, and will also inform friends here in Paris about your request. Please believe in the enormous power of praying. Best Regards, Loïc - Original Message - From: "Ursus Maximus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Baha'i Studies" Sent: Monday, Ju

Re: What is a Neoliberalist?

2007-05-09 Thread Loïc ROYER
Sorry Bill, I didn't see your last message before sending mine... You are fully right. This is really not the place to discuss of this topic! (-; Loïc. The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e-mail") is sent by the Johnson County Community College ("JCCC") a

Re: What is a Neoliberalist?

2007-05-08 Thread Loïc ROYER
When I think about the "right"...: it borns with kingdoms and slavery, it uses the work of the poors, it uses the moral to maintain poverty and richness, it supports the private poverty against the spirit of sharing, it gives power to the money, it tends to buy the media it tends to authoritarism o

Re: existence of God

2007-04-24 Thread Loïc ROYER
Dear friends, owning a cat since many years now, I can tell you they have dreams (by looking at my cat sleeping and moving head and even making little cries!) Dreaming is a natural phenomenal used by the brain to stay quiet and clear after all its work when we are living. I also believe that the "d

Haifa gardens: Cost and utility?

2007-04-18 Thread Loïc ROYER
Dear all, Discussing with friends about the cost and utility of the Haifa Baha'i gardens, I searched for infos and just found this article in the bahai-library.com ressources: http://bahai-library.com/newspapers/022299.html The article comes for local press and is a bit different from our usual o

Re: Recent House letter

2007-04-09 Thread Loïc ROYER
There are always two or three tellers and they have to submit the report unanimously what room is there for contention? Regards, Scott Loïc ROYER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sorry for being so ignorant... what is the "Teller report"? - Original Message -

Re: Recent House letter

2007-04-09 Thread Loïc ROYER
Sorry for being so ignorant... what is the "Teller report"? - Original Message - From: "SKYGRAM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Baha'i Studies" Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:01 PM Subject: Re: Recent House letter Scott, Yes, I suppose that would be the best time to complain. I go back a

Re: Recent House letter

2007-04-09 Thread Loïc ROYER
Dear David, and dear all, What I understood is that the House of justice proposed a kind of "positive discrimination" in the elections, am I right or wrong? if that's the point, I first think that we bahais should have really no need of this! in all cases, shouldn't we vote with our heart and mi

Re: reflection on future bahá'í society

2007-04-09 Thread Loïc ROYER
Hello All Friends! The original subject is very interesting, in fact I did asked myself about this future society we believe in... I agree with the feeling that "education for all" should mean "free" education. At the moment a private education makes concurrence with public education, you creat

Re: Luck and salvation

2007-01-25 Thread Loïc ROYER
Dear David, As I believe in God, I believe that what we call "luck" is God's wish. (and when we don't understand why, we sometimes call it "unluck" or "bad eye"!) This question reminds me a wellknown text of the Bible, the "Olivet discourse", where Jesus says approximatly that He will come li

Re: The Baha'i Writings say...

2007-01-23 Thread Loïc ROYER
What I understood (I read it in the "Kitab-i-Hearsay"!) is that we, bahai people, have been deeply invited to make our own searchs and discovers about God... Developping this knowledge takes a lot of time and energy, so we all first believe what we learn from others, but we shouldn't! Probably

Re: The Greater Covenant

2007-01-23 Thread Loïc ROYER
Dear Dean, I do agree with you. Despite the enormous evolution of tolerance and open-mind during the last century, the evolution of mankind is clearly not finished! What always have put me in trouble, is why the "Alliance" (in french), being celebrated in jewish, christians, islamics... writings

Re: Baha'i considerations about alcohol...

2007-01-09 Thread Loïc ROYER
Non-alcoholic wine?! never heard about this! (may be an american creation!) it cannot be wine but just grape-fruits juice! (Frenchman point of view) ;-) - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Baha'i Studies" Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: Re: Baha'i co

Baha'i considerations about alcohol...

2007-01-08 Thread Loïc ROYER
One thing I still don't clearly understand... So maybe some people on this forum can help me to know more! One of the first things I was told when I discovered Baha'i Faith, here in France, is that alcohol has been prohibited. This put a real problem for Christian and French people, because : -

Re: limits of hikmat, righteous warfare, jihad, etc.

2007-01-07 Thread Loïc ROYER
What I meant is that I sometimes feel worried when I see so many warnings at the beginning or at the end of some Baha'i writings. examples given: "this text has been translated by the X committee, reviewed by the Y committee, approved by Z, and might be later corrected by ZZ..." Dear Loic, I've

Re: Year of patience

2007-01-07 Thread Loïc ROYER
I know that... but reality is sometimes different (every psychiatrist can explain that there is unfornuatly a gap between what we want and what we do...) At this time my ex-wife and I were christians (theoricaly adhering to the same law forbiden sex outside of the marriage). I discovered the B

Re: limits of hikmat, righteous warfare, jihad, etc.

2007-01-07 Thread Loïc ROYER
That's why I trust in Baha'i message!!! - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Baha'i Studies" Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 9:41 PM Subject: Re: limits of hikmat, righteous warfare, jihad, etc. I have heard about these evangelical religions, they look to be more ef

Re: Year of patience

2007-01-07 Thread Loïc ROYER
- From: Scott Saylors To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 9:27 PM Subject: Re: Year of patience Actually my wife and I separated, went through the Year, divorced and two years later re-married. Other than that "respondent remarketh not". Regards, Scott L

Re: Year of patience

2007-01-07 Thread Loïc ROYER
ings for both, and I don't think we have to wait to feel "repugnance" one for the other... Loïc - Original Message - From: Scott Saylors To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:38 PM Subject: Re: Year of patience Loïc ROYER <[EMAIL

Re: limits of hikmat, righteous warfare, jihad, etc.

2007-01-07 Thread Loïc ROYER
Yes the example I gave was regarding the name of the book "Bayan". I don't know in english, but in french we have so many baha'i words absolutly impossible to understand without an annex to explain their sense ("le covenant", les "petites branches" et "grandes branches"... even the "Maison Univ

Re: re: Young earth creationism - expiry date - ?

2007-01-07 Thread Loïc ROYER
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Baha'i Studies" Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 7:05 PM Subject: Re: re: Young earth creationism - expiry date - ? You are right, I have to make the precision. I was talking about Christians people you can meet in Europe : Roman Catho

Re: Year of patience

2007-01-07 Thread Loïc ROYER
st is the best! Loïc - Original Message - From: Scott Saylors To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:14 PM Subject: Re: Year of patience There's another very important reason for the Year: To protect the dignity of both parties. Regards, Scot

Re: re: Young earth creationism - expiry date - ?

2007-01-07 Thread Loïc ROYER
Dear Susan, You are right, I have to make the precision. I was talking about Christians people you can meet in Europe : Roman Catholics, Protestants, Anglicans, Orthodox catholics... Here in France there are also "evangelicals" people but they are a very little minority (even if very active!)

Re: limits of hikmat, righteous warfare, jihad, etc.

2007-01-07 Thread Loïc ROYER
Dear Ben, It seems I have made some exagerations by writing "re-reviewed by dozens of people, councils, assemblies..." SORRY for this! What I meant is that I sometimes feel worried when I see so many warnings at the beginning or at the end of some Baha'i writings. examples given: "this text has

Re: Year of patience

2007-01-07 Thread Loïc ROYER
I always believe that the object of the law is more important than the law itself. What is the object of the Year of patience? To give a chance, to avoid the divorce, by thinking alone, discussing with others, speaking with the other, hearing the other, and maybe understanding that the couple i

Re: How much of Islamic culture is actually Arab?

2007-01-07 Thread Loïc ROYER
lol just sent a post on an other discussion where I wrote: "I cannot imagine that all humanity should first learn persian or arabic, to be able to understand the Writings!" Would we be "more" or "better" baha'i if we take a persian name? ;-) Loïc The information contained in this e-mail

re: Young earth creationism - expiry date - ?

2007-01-07 Thread Loïc ROYER
Hey! I don't know what you mean about "Young Earth creationism". Can you please give us more explainations more about this? As a "Christian Baha'i", I can assure you that christians people make a clear difference between the Faith in the 7 days of creation of the world (as exposed in the Genese

Re: Holy Grail

2007-01-07 Thread Loïc ROYER
Native from Britanny, in a very catholic family, I have been told about these legends since I was 3! These stories are mixing celtic paganism with roman christianity: - "Merlin the enchanter" is a wizard of the old celtic religion, living in forests, legendary being stripped of its knowledge and

Re: limits of hikmat, righteous warfare, jihad, etc.

2007-01-07 Thread Loïc ROYER
27;t see what you mean. The source of all religions is one and unique God, same for all, isn't it! - Original Message - From: "Michael Alcorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Baha'i Studies" Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 11:09 PM Subject: Re: limits

Re: limits of hikmat, righteous warfare, jihad, etc.

2007-01-06 Thread Loïc ROYER
: Re: limits of hikmat, righteous warfare, jihad, etc. What really makes the difference is the source. - Original Message - From: "Loïc ROYER" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Baha'i Studies" Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 11:59 PM Subject: Re: limits of hikmat,

Re: limits of hikmat, righteous warfare, jihad, etc.

2007-01-06 Thread Loïc ROYER
What makes the difference of the Baha'i faith is the individual freedom, to search, discover, discuss, write, think, believe... Of course this freedom is already given by other religions, but I understand the baha'is put this freedom over its limits, by accepting that error can be better than tr