RE: Self Definitions

2005-09-09 Thread Susan Maneck
I believe the responses on this list should reflect a Baha'i perspective first as its purpose is to explore the Faith, not academias view of the Faith. Dear Rich, That is not the case. The purpose of this list is for academics and non-academics to examine the Baha'i Faith from an academic

Re: Self Definitions

2005-09-05 Thread Mark A. Foster
Rich, At 05:39 PM 9/5/2005, you wrote: That being said, while I respect Mark as a sociologist, I believe the responses on this list should reflect a Baha'i perspective first as its purpose is to explore the Faith, not academias view of the Faith. Perhaps you might want to take another look at

Re: Self Definitions

2005-09-04 Thread Tim Nolan
Mark, As a sociologist of religion, I have no alternative but to accept the self-definitions of people. As asensible human being, do you feel you have to accept a person's self definition as valid and accurate? Suppose I define myself as an orthodox Jew - a belief system I know little

Re: Self Definitions

2005-09-04 Thread Mark A. Foster
Tim, At 09:56 AM 9/4/2005, you wrote: As a sensible human being, do you feel you have to accept a person's self definition as valid and accurate? Suppose I define myself as an orthodox Jew - a belief system I know little about. Do you feel you must accept that I am in fact an orthodox Jew,

Re: Self Definitions

2005-09-04 Thread Gilberto Simpson
On 9/4/05, Tim Nolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, As a sociologist of religion, I have no alternative but to accept the self-definitions of people. As a sensible human being, do you feel you have to accept a person's self definition as valid and accurate? Suppose I define myself

Re: Self Definitions

2005-09-04 Thread Brent Poirier
Mark is a sociologist. I would compare this to a physician who holds strong moral opinions and has a well-defined belief system. But when a patient is before him and he is caring for him, he does not care what that person's beliefs are; in fact does not care if the person is a criminal. He

Re: Self Definitions

2005-09-04 Thread Mark A. Foster
Brent, At 04:49 PM 9/4/2005, you wrote: In my mind this is analagous to a sociologist who studies social phenomena objectively. He has to detach from his own belief system when doing so. That same person, when giving a deepening -- that's a circumstance when his personal views on things very