Re: Authorship of the Gospels

2006-06-20 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
now... do i personally think that the 4 named Gospellers were among 12 unnamed people who did a lot of road trips with Christ, and some not, and who may be archtypes for the 12 tribes of israel? Baha'u'llah That, firestorm, was certainly a refreshing portrayal of the issue. One would think that

re: Authorship of the Gospels

2006-06-20 Thread firestorm
as a card carrying fundie, i am compelled to offer the view that i am a disciple of Christ. :"# someone who believes and helps to spread the doctrine of another wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn # A Disciple (from the Latin discipulus, a pupil) is one who receives instruction from another; a s

Re: Authorship of the Gospels

2006-06-19 Thread David Friedman
Dear Susan, That is because you are incorrigibly literalistic. ;-} Well I suppose the wording doesn't mean they were all disciples. I guess it's the word 'memory' that made me wonder. Given the oral traditions available at the time, I would say of Mark and Luke that they wrote the Gospels

Re: Authorship of the Gospels

2006-06-19 Thread smaneck
> That's an interesting suggestion. Still, though, the wording > doesn't sit > well with me if the writers weren't actually there. Dear David, That is because you are incorrigibly literalistic. ;-} warmest, Susan The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments thereto ("e

Re: Authorship of the Gospels

2006-06-19 Thread Scott Saylors
David,   You are aware of how long it was before the Torah was revealed and when it was actually written down, aren't you?   Regards, ScottDavid Friedman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Gilberto,>I wonder if you might be assuming too much about the meaning of the>words. If A tells B something

Re: Authorship of the Gospels

2006-06-19 Thread David Friedman
Dear Gilberto, I wonder if you might be assuming too much about the meaning of the words. If A tells B something. And B passes the message to C. And C writes down "what they remembers of A's words" that doesn't mean C ever met A. That's an interesting suggestion. Still, though, the wording do

Re: Authorship of the Gospels

2006-06-19 Thread smaneck
> I wonder if you might be assuming too much about the meaning of the > words. If A tells B something. And B passes the message to C. And C > writes down "what they remembers of A's words" that doesn't mean C > ever met A. I think you are right, Gilberto. The information contained in this e

Re: Authorship of the Gospels

2006-06-19 Thread smaneck
> Baha'u'llah wrote: > > The Four Gospels were written after Him [Christ]. John, Luke, Mark > and > Matthew - these four wrote after Christ what they remembered of > His > utterances. >(From a previously untranslated Tablet) > > This passage seems to say that all four of the Gospel writer

Re: Authorship of the Gospels

2006-06-19 Thread David Friedman
Dear Michael, David I have a problem with your reference: "(From a previously untranslated Tablet)". Has it now been authenticated? If it has, then I can believe it and there is no doubt it is the truth. It no doubt has been authenticated, as this is found in a response from the research dep

Re: Authorship of the Gospels

2006-06-19 Thread Gilberto Simpson
Even for "fundamentalists" or traditionalist Christians, Luke and Mark weren't actually of the 12. And If you read the beginnings of Luke, even the author doesn't claim that his work is an eyewitness account. I wonder if you might be assuming too much about the meaning of the words. If A tells B

Re: Authorship of the Gospels

2006-06-19 Thread Michael Alcorn
David I have a problem with your reference: "(From a previously untranslated Tablet)". Has it now been authenticated? If it has, then I can believe it and there is no doubt it is the truth. Best wishes Mike - Original Message - From: "David Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Baha'i St