[BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-10 Thread S.Ramaswamy
"Top-posting complaints is the old timers trying to assert their power over the newer generation who takes everything for granted." http://twitter.com/gvanrossum/status/2403974538 ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/m

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-10 Thread srid
>From Wikipedia: """ Objections to top-posting on newsgroups, as a rule, seem to come from persons who first went online in the earlier days of Usenet, and in communities that date to Usenet's early days. Until the mid-90s, top-posting was unknown and interleaved posting an obvious standard that a

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 11 Sep 2009 10:54:27 am srid wrote: > >From Wikipedia: > > """ > Objections to top-posting on newsgroups, as a rule, seem to come from > persons who first went online in the earlier days of Usenet, and in > communities that date to Usenet's early days. Until the mid-90s, > top-posting was

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-10 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
Why? On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Friday 11 Sep 2009 10:54:27 am srid wrote: >> >From Wikipedia: >> >> """ >> Objections to top-posting on newsgroups, as a rule, seem to come from >> persons who first went online in the earlier days of Usenet, and in >> communit

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-10 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 11 Sep 2009 11:09:52 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Why? do you mean why does wikipedia contains BS? or why do I think that the quotation is BS? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Associate NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ BangPypers mailing

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-10 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
Why do you consider the quotation to be BS? I assume from your first question that you *do* consider it to be BS. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Friday 11 Sep 2009 11:09:52 am Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> Why? > > do you mean why does wikipedia contains BS? or why do

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 11 Sep 2009 12:21:48 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Why do you consider the quotation to be BS? I assume from your first > question that you do consider it to be BS. yes I do - but since your top post has removed the context I will have to go searching in the archives for it - so will reply

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 11 Sep 2009 11:00:41 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Friday 11 Sep 2009 10:54:27 am srid wrote: > > >From Wikipedia: > > > > """ > > Objections to top-posting on newsgroups, as a rule, seem to come from > > persons who first went online in the earlier days of Usenet, and in > > communiti

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread steve
On 09/11/2009 01:24 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Friday 11 Sep 2009 11:00:41 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Friday 11 Sep 2009 10:54:27 am srid wrote: > > From Wikipedia: > > """ > Objections to top-posting on newsgroups, as a rule, seem to come from > persons who first went online

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 11 Sep 2009 1:44:50 pm steve wrote: > Just to be a pedant, I should point out that the quoted paragraph clearly > states that "Objections to top-posting on /newsgroups/..." > > The entire paragraph is in the context of newsgroups (and Usenet in > particular). who knows what the context i

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: [..] > why? in the first place I am extremely sensitive to top posting, [..] I noticed. You need to chill a little. :) -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@p

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 11 Sep 2009 2:02:19 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves > wrote: [..] > > > why? in the first place I am extremely sensitive to top posting, > > [..] > > I noticed. You need to chill a little. :) AFAIK this list does not enforce the 'no top post

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread Baishampayan Ghose
> why? in the first place I am extremely sensitive to top posting, but have > never > used usenet or been in a C forum. I only learned about interleaved posting in > about 2002 or so. And the vast majority of people online now have similar > experience to mine. And also the vast majority of top po

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread S.Ramaswamy
> > who knows what the context is - the OP did not provide the link > > > > The "in reply to" link in the tweet provides the context. I am using the Twitter web ui, not sure how it works with various Twitter clients. Context: = http://twitter.com/jtauber/status/2403

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread Dhananjay Nene
Comments inline On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Baishampayan Ghose wrote: > > why? in the first place I am extremely sensitive to top posting, but have > never > > used usenet or been in a C forum. I only learned about interleaved > posting in > > about 2002 or so. And the vast majority of peopl

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote: [..] > IMO, at the end of the day it really doesn't matter and probably the best > thing is to simply get comfortable with both and move beyond the issue. On a > similar note, I continue to use British spellings but really don't get > surprise

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread Noufal Ibrahim
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Baishampayan Ghose wrote: [..] > Others, unfortunately fail to accept it; they are simply too lazy to > be courteous to others. I would blame the webmail clients for that > though. They are simply not smart enough to put the cursor in the > right place (which is be

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 11 Sep 2009 2:41:48 pm Dhananjay Nene wrote: > I haven't since a convincing argument either way on the topic why should > newer folks > adopt or not adopt a Usenet sensibility. IMO the usenet "pattern" is simply > fighting > a losing battle (one I gave up ages ago before shifting to top p

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 11 Sep 2009 2:21:48 pm Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Baishampayan Ghose > wrote: [..] > > > Others, unfortunately fail to accept it; they are simply too lazy to > > be courteous to others. I would blame the webmail clients for that > > though. They are simply n

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread Dhananjay Nene
Kenneth, Comments inline, On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Friday 11 Sep 2009 2:41:48 pm Dhananjay Nene wrote: > > I haven't since a convincing argument either way on the topic why should > > newer folks > > adopt or not adopt a Usenet sensibility. IMO the usenet "p

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread Dhananjay Nene
Correction inline (sorry for one more post just for that) On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote: > Kenneth, > > Comments inline, > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > >> On Friday 11 Sep 2009 2:41:48 pm Dhananjay Nene wrote: >> > I haven't since a convinc

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread srid
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Friday 11 Sep 2009 11:00:41 am Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: >> On Friday 11 Sep 2009 10:54:27 am srid wrote: >> > >From Wikipedia: >> > >> > """ >> > Objections to top-posting on newsgroups, as a rule, seem to come from >> > persons who f

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread srid
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:21 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > does GVR top post? I have seen him doing both. An example of him top-posting, http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/python-dev/3743554 and here, for instance, he does not use top-posting, http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/M

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread Venkatraman S
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:56 PM, srid wrote: > I have seen him doing both. An example of him top-posting, > > http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/python-dev/3743554 > > and here, for instance, he does not use top-posting, > > http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/python-dev/3

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread srid
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Venkatraman S wrote: > @srid: Wow. How do you manage to find time to search these things? Did you > go via each of the posts by Guido? If yes, tell him :) Actually since I follow python-dev@ (and occasionally python-ideas@), I have already seen GvR using both sty

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 11 Sep 2009 10:56:09 pm srid wrote: > > does GVR top post? > > I have seen him doing both. An example of him top-posting, > > http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/python-dev/3743554 > > and here, for instance, he does not use top-posting, > > http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Friday 11 Sep 2009 3:09:27 pm Dhananjay Nene wrote: > > this is interesting. I never knew there were any arguments for top > > posting - > > apart from the default 'it is the easiest way of doing things'. Could you > > point out these arguments? > > Mails get used to communicate very diverse lev

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread srid
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Friday 11 Sep 2009 10:56:09 pm srid wrote: >> > does GVR top post? >> >> I have seen him doing both. An example of him top-posting, >> >>   http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/python-dev/3743554 >> >> and here, for instance,

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread Rajeev J Sebastian
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 7:25 AM, srid wrote: >>> Objections to top-posting *as a rule* is silly. >> >> please be polite - invective never wins arguments. > > Please explain what is "invective" (insulting, abusive, or highly > critical language) about anything said here. And what would be a > polit

Re: [BangPypers] [OT] Guido's Tweet on Top Posting

2009-09-11 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Saturday 12 Sep 2009 7:25:52 am srid wrote: > >> Objections to top-posting *as a rule* is silly. > > > > please be polite - invective never wins arguments. > > Please explain what is "invective" (insulting, abusive, or highly > critical language) about anything said here. And what would be a > p