[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 11 or 13 (barring)

2009-01-15 Thread Anthony Hind
I suppose to the three hypotheses, mentioned in my previous message, I should add something about the apparent success of demi-filé, probably around the same time that swannecks became popular. There are arguments about whether the extension on swan-necked lutes had pure gut or demifilé, or

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 11 or 13

2009-01-14 Thread Markus Lutz
Benjamin Narvey schrieb: Dear Mathias, It's interesting you say that. I'd be curious to know what you and other people on this list think about the differences (advantages/disadvantages) between rider lutes and swan neck lutes. I think the main difference between these lute types

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 11 or 13

2009-01-14 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Benjamin and Markus Le 14 janv. 09 à 10:49, Markus Lutz a écrit : Miguel has told me something about different barring of French eleven course lutes and later baroque lutes. So that might also be a difference of sound. Maybe others can say something on that. Unfortunately I also

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 11 or 13

2009-01-13 Thread Benjamin Narvey
Dear Mathias, It's interesting you say that. I'd be curious to know what you and other people on this list think about the differences (advantages/disadvantages) between rider lutes and swan neck lutes. I think the main difference between these lute types is one of balance vs.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 11 or 13

2009-01-13 Thread Mathias Rösel
David Rastall dlu...@verizon.net schrieb: In some music I've been playing recently (Losy, Lauffensteiner) which was written for 11-c, I'm very glad to have that open B-flat available on my 13-c. It does make life a lot easier. Lauffensteiner's lute assumedly had 12 courses as evidenced by

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 11 or 13

2009-01-13 Thread Mathias Rösel
Benjamin Narvey luthi...@gmail.com schrieb: It's interesting you say that. I'd be curious to know what you and other people on this list think about the differences (advantages/disadvantages) between rider lutes and swan neck lutes. As far as I can see, the only proper advantage of

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 11 or 13

2009-01-12 Thread sterling price
century til now as something -so- difficult is really 'bad for business'. Sterling Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 11 or 13 Sterling, you are right in saying that more basses make things easier. At least in some respects: You can play some of the notes with a bass and doesn't have to stop

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 11 or 13

2009-01-10 Thread Markus Lutz
Hi Theo, you can play many Weiss pieces on an 11 course lute - and many of them had been intended for it. The later ones might be sometimes a little bit tricky, as the added basses give more freedom for the leading voices. But on the other side: If some guitarist can play these pieces on 6

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 11 or 13

2009-01-10 Thread Mathias Rösel
Swan necks for continuo seems reasonable IMHO. More omph for the bass register is the only advantage of that type as far as I can see. Mathias Markus Lutz mar...@gmlutz.de schrieb: Hi Theo, you can play many Weiss pieces on an 11 course lute - and many of them had been intended for it. The

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 11 or 13

2009-01-10 Thread sterling price
- Original Message In fact they are easier to be played. More basses - more problems with the thumb ;-). And there is plenty of good music for it (beside French music Austrian, Bohemian, German etc.). Best regards Markus I disagree with this-I have always contended that more