Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

Check the forum and download the 10.5 prerelease: http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en Best regards François On Oct 10, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Sammy Banawan wrote: > I hate to pester, but it's now 2 months later and there's still no update. > Considering I bought this MBP for the s

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

I hate to pester, but it's now 2 months later and there's still no update. Considering I bought this MBP for the sharpness of the text, I'd like to be able to enjoy it. :) Any word on when the update will be out? Will this be a BBEdit 11 feature? On Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:50:52 AM UTC-4,

Re: [info] Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

On Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:35:19 AM UTC-4, Patrick Woolsey wrote: > > Gabriel Roth > sez: > [...] > >> Developers are instructed to replace all their ATS code with CoreText > >> as it will be removed in future OS X releases. > > > Which we're also aware of & already working on :-) for a fut

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

Glad to hear it's being worked on. It does look iffy on a retina screen, but I'm dealing for the time being as I really love BBEdit. May jump to sublime for really long days of coding until the update gets released though. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "BB

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Patrick Woolsey wrote: > As I posted somewhat prior, we are aware of this issue, and are already > working on it for a future version (hopefully soon albeit not immediate). > Thanks Patrick, look forward to the update. Will -- -- You received this message bec

Request re discussions (was Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP)

As a request and reminder: Though everyone, be they happy, unhappy, or looking for/offering advice, is welcome to post on any (on-topic) issue, we ask that you please keep discussions civil. Thanks, Patrick Woolsey == Bare Bones Software, Inc. P

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

I am *totally* sure Barebones is going to *completely* ignore their flagship application, and prevent it from running magnificently on what is clearly the next generation/trend of Apple hardware, you guys. Yep. All the signs are there. Just look back at their multi-decade history. Moreover, *th

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

As I posted somewhat prior, we are aware of this issue, and are already working on it for a future version (hopefully soon albeit not immediate). Regards, Patrick Woolsey == Bare Bones Software, Inc. P.O. Box 1048, Bedford, MA 01730-1048 At 03

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

On Thursday, August 2, 2012 2:18:29 PM UTC+10, William Denniss wrote: > > Putting aside the API debate for a moment, I have a simple question: when > will BBEdit render text on the MBP Retina without it looking fuzzy? > Frankly it looks terrible right now. > > I need to know if I should put up

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

Putting aside the API debate for a moment, I have a simple question: when will BBEdit render text on the MBP Retina without it looking fuzzy? Frankly it looks terrible right now. I need to know if I should put up with it for a short time, or (with considerable sadness) start looking for a repl

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

On 8/1/12 at 12:37 AM, harald...@gmail.com (Hugin) wrote: Any particular reason why my posts are being systematically deleted??? Someone wants me to leave the group, or what? I'm seeing all of your posts of this message, so it doesn't appear they're being deleted... - Bruce _bruce__va

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

On 01 Aug 2012, at 01:37 , Hugin wrote: > Any particular reason why my posts are being systematically deleted??? > Someone wants me to leave the group, or what? They are not deleted. You just posted 6 messages with the same basic content. Thanks! -- How do I set my laser printer to "STUN"?

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

> >>In addition to static previews, BBEdit also supports live > >>local previewing of web pages through the web server built > >>into Mac OS X. > > That is correct -- but it's also not what you said initially. :-) > > ?? > It IS what I wrote initially! I scribbled: > "which is needed for loca

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

I'll just mention that Mac OS X Server is now a $20 add-on which is available at the App Store and has controls for web serving. Although Apple hasn't communicated it very well, I would imagine they now expect users who need web serving and similar servers to buy this inexpensive add-on. [flet

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

I think you are being a little unfair here, Rich addressed the moderation issue, it looks like you are in Europe and they are on the East Coast of the US so there is a time difference. They have lives so I do not expect them to be on the group 24/7/*. And I think they have addressed your issues

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

Den onsdagen den 1:e augusti 2012 kl. 14:06:53 UTC+2 skrev Rich Siegel: > > On Tuesday, July 31, 2012, Hugin wrote: > > >>In addition to static previews, BBEdit also supports live > >>local previewing of web pages through the web server built > >>into Mac OS X. > > That is correct -- but it's

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

I just got all your posts, for some reason the Google groups 'burp' from time to time, I suggest you talk to their customer support :) François On Aug 1, 2012, at 3:33 AM, Hugin wrote: > (Strange, this is my sixth attempt to post this!… why are my posts > automatically being deleted??) > --

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

On Tuesday, July 31, 2012, Hugin wrote: In addition to static previews, BBEdit also supports live local previewing of web pages through the web server built into Mac OS X. This capability enables you to easily preview pages which are built using server-side technologies, for example, DHTML o

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

On Wednesday, August 1, 2012, Hugin wrote: Any particular reason why my posts are being systematically deleted??? Someone wants me to leave the group, or what? New members are automatically on moderation. Duplicate postings may be deleted at the moderator's discretion. Your patience is appre

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

I agree with David - I completely missed the brouhaha as I use MAMP and it just kept working just fine - it is free and easy to install. http://www.mamp.info/en/index.html On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:14:13 PM UTC+1, David Miers wrote: > > I don't like doing things the hard way or re-inventing

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

(Strange, this is my sixth attempt to post this!… why are my posts automatically being deleted??) On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:43:15 PM UTC+2, Rich Siegel wrote: > BBEdit's ability to edit HTML files, or any other type of > file, does not depend on Apache or any other web service. > "Preview

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

(Hmm, second attempt to post this... why are my posts automatically deleted or directed to devnull??) On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:43:15 PM UTC+2, Rich Siegel wrote: > BBEdit's ability to edit HTML files, or any other type of > file, does not depend on Apache or any other web service. > "Previe

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

(Strange, this is my fifth attempt to post this!… why are my posts automatically being deleted??) On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:43:15 PM UTC+2, Rich Siegel wrote: > BBEdit's ability to edit HTML files, or any other type of > file, does not depend on Apache or any other web service. > "Preview

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

Any particular reason why my posts are being systematically deleted??? Someone wants me to leave the group, or what? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "BBEdit Talk" discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To uns

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

(Hmm, third attempt to post this... now from mail. why are my posts automatically deleted or directed to devnull??) On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:43:15 PM UTC+2, Rich Siegel wrote: > BBEdit's ability to edit HTML files, or any other type of > file, does not depend on Apache or any other web service

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:43:15 PM UTC+2, Rich Siegel wrote: > > BBEdit's ability to edit HTML files, or any other type of > file, does not depend on Apache or any other web service. > "Preview in BBEdit" works without Apache or any other web > service. If you wish, you *can* run previews th

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

I don't like doing things the hard way or re-inventing wheels Solution simply MAMP On Jul 31, 2012, at 4:12 PM, Tom Robinson wrote: > TidBITS has a good article on starting Apache from the command line, a free > 3rd party preference pane, etc: > > >

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

TidBITS has a good article on starting Apache from the command line, a free 3rd party preference pane, etc: On 2012-08-01, at 06:59, Hugin wrote: > Besides the pixelated fuzzy bad text rendering in BBEdit on my new MBP > Retina, how about your planned suppo

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

On Tuesday, July 31, 2012, Hugin wrote: I am specifically thinking about that Web Sharing is gone in ML, which is needed for local editing of html files and full support for BBEdit live Preview. This is the point where everyone who's currently using BBEdit to edit their HTML files while runn

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

Den måndagen den 18:e juni 2012 kl. 18:28:26 UTC+2 skrev Rich Siegel: > > To the specific issue: we're aware of it, have an understanding > of its origin, and are considering our options. We appreciate > the report, and everyone's continued patience. > Besides the pixelated fuzzy bad text rende

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

Have been using BBEdit on my Retina MacBook pro and noticed any problems or fuzzy text at all. Cannot see any difference between its display on the macbook or on an attached apple LED... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "BBEdit Talk" discussion group on Google Gr

[ADMIN] Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

On Saturday, June 16, 2012, Neil Tiffin wrote: The problem is not at all about BBedit, the technology Bare Bones chose to use, the fact that the underlaying API's are or will be deprecated, or the fact that there may be a bug in the rendering code. It's the fact that a core person at Bare Bones

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

On Jun 16, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Bruce Van Allen wrote: > On 6/16/12 at 5:54 AM, ne...@neiltiffin.com (Neil Tiffin) wrote: >> Yep, this "modern" api originated in OS 8.5, was marked as legacy in OSX >> 10.6, is carbon based (IIRC), and will be deprecated in 10.8. Oops. > > OMG -- you mean all this

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

Yes deprecation uses up dev's time, but it keeps OS X nimble and able to be supported by a relatively small team of programmers. The other option is to be like Windows which is extensively backward compatible for apps, but the OS is a mountain of legacy cruft. Cheers On 2012-06-17, at 02:28,

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

On Jun 16, 2012, at 8:54, Bruce Van Allen wrote: > The OP had a genuine problem, and it's still not clear to me if it's due to > BBEdit, Lion, the MBP Retina Display, or the OP's own settings. It's due to the new retina display and the renderer that BBEdit uses which is, as I understand it, alr

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

On 6/16/12 at 5:54 AM, ne...@neiltiffin.com (Neil Tiffin) wrote: Yep, this "modern" api originated in OS 8.5, was marked as legacy in OSX 10.6, is carbon based (IIRC), and will be deprecated in 10.8. Oops. OMG -- you mean all this time I've been using BBEdit its text rendering has been done

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

Personally I find it annoying that Apple deprecated Carbon. The constant deprecations create an annoying gerbil wheel which sucks up a lot of dev cycles that could be spent on far more interesting things. Apple's shitastic backwards compatibility policies are one of the main reasons I've sta

[info] Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

Gabriel Roth sez: [...] >> Developers are instructed to replace all their ATS code with CoreText >> as it will be removed in future OS X releases. Which we're also aware of & already working on :-) for a future version (albeit not immediate). Regards, Patrick Woolsey == Bare Bones Software,

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

Yep, this "modern" api originated in OS 8.5, was marked as legacy in OSX 10.6, is carbon based (IIRC), and will be deprecated in 10.8. Oops. On Jun 15, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Gabriel Roth wrote: >> No; we're using ATSUI, the other "modern" rendering API. > > An article at > http://www.appleinsider

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

> No; we're using ATSUI, the other "modern" rendering API. An article at http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/12/04/18/apple_issues_xcode_44_developer_preview_3.html states: > The [Xcode release] notes also cautioned that performance of ATS APIs will > suffer in OS X 10.8 because the ATS.framew

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

On Friday, June 15, 2012, mason k wrote: > That's interesting. Most other apps that use Apple's text rendering > look fantastic at all scalings. You're really just using the Cocoa > text rendering API to render? No; we're using ATSUI, the other "modern" rendering API. > Do you know why BBEdit

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

That's interesting. Most other apps that use Apple's text rendering look fantastic at all scalings. You're really just using the Cocoa text rendering API to render? Do you know why BBEdit is locked into running in low resolution mode on this computer? "Run in Low Resolution" is checked and di

Re: BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

On Friday, June 15, 2012, mason k wrote: > Hi guys, this just a heads up that BBEdit text aliases on a RMBP even > on "Best for Retina" mode. You will probably have to report a bug to Apple; it's their text renderer. R. -- Rich Siegel Bare Bones Software, Inc.

BBEdit looks quite bad on Retina MBP

Hi guys, this just a heads up that BBEdit text aliases on a RMBP even on "Best for Retina" mode. Not only that, but there is colored haloing around the text on certain scaling factors, e.g. 1920. The best scaling factor is actually the second largest for my chosen font size, 18pt. But, it's not