Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices

2002-10-28 Thread Hugh Lovel
Dears, The rules for spraying compost tea w/molasses were written out of fear and ignorance, unfortunately. It's that one size fits all mentality that so often infects bureaucracies. There's a lot of crops that don't have 120 days from planting to harvest. I'm told that the commonest vector for

Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices

2002-10-27 Thread Merla Barberie
If the rules say that you can't spray CT on food crops for 120 days before harvest, then they are talking about foliar feed. They are worried about I. coli which forms in anaerobic situations in CT where there is too much food for the organisms (molasses) and too little aeration getting on food

Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices

2002-10-27 Thread Peter Michael Bacchus
numerous times over the last 40 years and I keep in pretty good health. best wishes, Peter. - Original Message - From: Gil Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 1:20 PM Subject: Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices Allan, Without

Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices

2002-10-25 Thread Allan Balliett
Allan wrote Of course, this only applies to people who are interested in receiving USDA organic certification, Allan are you sure about this?? No, I'm not certain about it in the long run but the current dialogue was triggered by the NOSB, or by recommendations to them AS FAR AS I

Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices

2002-10-25 Thread Allan Balliett
Hi! Allan, I grew up in a dairy farming family and it never occurred to us that cow shit was dirty. I mean to say, there is nothing better to stand in, when bring the cows in, bare foot, on a frosty morning. Gil excellent! ;-)

Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices

2002-10-24 Thread Allan Balliett
If you're monitoring SANET or Elaine Inghams compost tea discussion group, you already know that the USDA organic rules group has been advised to restrict the use of compost teas on food crops. This applies particularly to teas that use added sugars (mollasses, for example). Already, however,

Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices

2002-10-24 Thread Gil Robertson
Allan, Without putting to fine a point on it. Personally, I would prefer something that came out of the back end of a cow, mixed with my food than any thing from Monsanto. Gil Allan Balliett wrote: If you're monitoring SANET or Elaine Inghams compost tea discussion group, you already know

Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices

2002-10-24 Thread Allan Balliett
Yes, Gil, I know what you mean. I'm crossing the line with this comment, but I find it really hard to think of the pies of healthy cows as shit. It's seems more appropriate to think of them as piles of grass that have through a pre-composting process. Not the same stuff at all that my dog

Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices

2002-10-24 Thread Gil Robertson
Hi! Allan, I grew up in a dairy farming family and it never occurred to us that cow shit was dirty. I mean to say, there is nothing better to stand in, when bring the cows in, bare foot, on a frosty morning. Gil Allan Balliett wrote: Yes, Gil, I know what you mean. I'm crossing the line

Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices

2002-10-24 Thread Lloyd Charles
Allan wrote Of course, this only applies to people who are interested in receiving USDA organic certification, Allan are you sure about this?? . I have asked this question several times and got no answer from others (mainly on the ct list) IF this applies ONLY to organic production it is easy

Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices

2002-10-24 Thread Moen Creek
Title: Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices Without putting to fine a point on it. Personally, I would prefer something that came out of the back end of a cow, mixed with my food than any thing from Monsanto. Gil Don't worry about that being sharp Its as blunt