Re: [beagleboard] Connecting UART0 RTS and CTS to J1 for new BBB

2014-05-05 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:01 AM, Timothy Comments timothyfauc...@gmail.com wrote: [ suggestions that people associated with BBB are not helpful and engage in backroom deals] You make extraordinary claims, so you are expected to back them with extraordinary evidence. Please retract if you

Re: [beagleboard] Connecting UART0 RTS and CTS to J1 for new BBB

2014-05-02 Thread William Hermans
Dennis, and Timothy, Out of curiosity, what does all of this conversation get the two of you ? Does it get you what you want, despite you being told that if you want something a certain way you're going to have to have it made yourself ? From the outside looking in, this seems like a children

Re: [beagleboard] Connecting UART0 RTS and CTS to J1 for new BBB

2014-05-01 Thread Dennis Cote
On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 4:29:58 PM UTC-6, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: Well, I'm not Gerald, but I'll be surprised if anything is changing on the PCB. The change to a 4G eMMC requires no changes to the PCB and are being made to improve margin, so don't expect to see any new parts.

Re: [beagleboard] Connecting UART0 RTS and CTS to J1 for new BBB

2014-05-01 Thread Gerald Coley
I have no plans to make any changes to the board. Only change for Rev C was to populate the 4G eMMC. The idea of scrapping 80,000 is definitely a cost issue. The requirement for the BBB was to be compatible with the BeagleBone. Gerald On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Charles Steinkuehler

Re: [beagleboard] Connecting UART0 RTS and CTS to J1 for new BBB

2014-05-01 Thread Gerald Coley
No. If they were connected, they could be used. They do not require the PRU to drive them. Gerald On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote: On Thursday, May 1, 2014 8:25:39 AM UTC-6, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: Yes, those are PRU peripherals. The PRU has a

Re: [beagleboard] Connecting UART0 RTS and CTS to J1 for new BBB

2014-05-01 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 5/1/2014 12:59 PM, Dennis Cote wrote: On Thursday, May 1, 2014 9:44:35 AM UTC-6, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: UART0 and PR1_UART0 are totally different chunks of hardware. Do not get confused by the fact that they both have UART0 in the name, they are *NOT* the same. I understand

Re: [beagleboard] Connecting UART0 RTS and CTS to J1 for new BBB

2014-05-01 Thread Dennis Cote
On Thursday, May 1, 2014 12:08:02 PM UTC-6, Gerald wrote: I see. One of those commercial guys. I thought so. You say that like it is a negative thing. I can almost hear the sigh afterwards. I don't understand your resentment of commercial users. You have done a masterful job designing a

Re: [beagleboard] Connecting UART0 RTS and CTS to J1 for new BBB

2014-05-01 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Dennis Cote denn...@harding.ca wrote: Also, we are expecting to buy about 1K boards per year rather than a couple of boards. We will be buying directly from CircuitCo, but we would like them to be the same boards they build for distribution if at all possible.

Re: [beagleboard] Connecting UART0 RTS and CTS to J1 for new BBB

2014-05-01 Thread Gerald Coley
There is no resentment. We just don't support commercial users of the boards with the BeagleBoard LOGO on it as we have stated. http://www.elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack#Terms_of_Use Everything is there for you to build it yourself. Go for it. No strings attached. Gerald On Thu, May

Re: [beagleboard] Connecting UART0 RTS and CTS to J1 for new BBB

2014-05-01 Thread Dennis Cote
On Thursday, May 1, 2014 2:14:21 PM UTC-6, Gerald wrote: There is no resentment. We just don't support commercial users of the boards with the BeagleBoard LOGO on it as we have stated. I don't know if the boards I would buy from CircuitCo will have the BeagleBoard logo or not. I assume

Re: [beagleboard] Connecting UART0 RTS and CTS to J1 for new BBB

2014-05-01 Thread Robert Nelson
Not quite everything is there. The key missing piece is the production volume which is the one of the principal determining factors in the cost. You, and others, are being disingenuous when you say go build your own. You know that will not be economically viable for most users, commercial or

Re: [beagleboard] Connecting UART0 RTS and CTS to J1 for new BBB

2014-05-01 Thread Gerald Coley
If you get boards from anyone without the logo, they are in fact at that point your board. So you can do whatever you like. Make whatever changes you want. And, you can build the board as long as you want. Once we change a board, we no longer make the old revision. If I start making changes for

Re: [beagleboard] Connecting UART0 RTS and CTS to J1 for new BBB

2014-05-01 Thread Dennis Cote
On Thursday, May 1, 2014 2:53:36 PM UTC-6, Gerald wrote: If you get boards from anyone without the logo, they are in fact at that point your board. So you can do whatever you like. Make whatever changes you want. And, you can build the board as long as you want. I am aware of the many

Re: [beagleboard] Connecting UART0 RTS and CTS to J1 for new BBB

2014-05-01 Thread Timothy Comments
You are not alone, we also are finding the people at beaglebone (beagleboard?) or shall we say Texas Instruments uncooperative, surly, uncaring and unsupporting to other professional people who want to join their team and use their own money to get behind their processor products with third

[beagleboard] Connecting UART0 RTS and CTS to J1 for new BBB

2014-04-30 Thread Dennis Cote
Hi, This question is meant for Gerald Coley since he is the only one who can answer it. Gerald, is there any reason (aside from cost) that you didn't connect the UART0 RTS and CTS lines (balls E17 and E18) to the J1 header for the serial console? In my project I need all the LCD lines which

Re: [beagleboard] Connecting UART0 RTS and CTS to J1 for new BBB

2014-04-30 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 4/30/2014 5:17 PM, Dennis Cote wrote: Hi, This question is meant for Gerald Coley since he is the only one who can answer it. Gerald, is there any reason (aside from cost) that you didn't connect the UART0 RTS and CTS lines (balls E17 and E18) to the J1 header for the serial