Bert,
Thank you for bringing this message to my attention. I am on the
squeak-...@lists.squeakfoundation.org, but only read a few of its messages
since so few are about object orientation as Alan defined the term.
May be people have difficulties with class based languages because they are not
Comments inline.
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:05 AM, David Corking li...@dcorking.com wrote:
Erlis wrote:
Now I think I start understanding Jim statement, basically the statement
is:
Smalltalk (the language) adopted the classical way of OO instead the
prototype way, so I don't have all
Am 21.06.2011 15:46, schrieb Erlis Vidal:
Hi guys,
I was reading recently Jim Coplien ideas about DCI and I was surprised
with the following statement:
/The Smalltalk people, when they put together Smalltalk originally
the computational model was exactly right, in terms of thinking in
Hi Blochl,
Thanks for the references, I'll take a look immediately.
After my last email I found the DCI mailing list and Jim and Trygve are
active member, I haven't asked yet the question about what was wrong with
smalltalk implementation but I'll do that and share the answer with you
guys.
and not the class of the object.
Hth.
Yours in curiosity and service, --Jerome Peace
--- On Sat, 6/25/11, bb bblo...@arcor.de wrote:
From: bb bblo...@arcor.de
Subject: Re: [Newbies] I don't get it
To: A friendly place to get answers to even the most basic questions about
Squeak. beginners
Erlis wrote:
Now I think I start understanding Jim statement, basically the statement is:
Smalltalk (the language) adopted the classical way of OO instead the
prototype way, so I don't have all the plasticity I was expecting...
Do the smalltalkers feel this way?
Perhaps. But Squeakers have
On 22.06.2011, at 12:05, David Corking wrote:
Erlis wrote:
Now I think I start understanding Jim statement, basically the statement is:
Smalltalk (the language) adopted the classical way of OO instead the
prototype way, so I don't have all the plasticity I was expecting...
Do the
Hi all,
First of all, thanks for the comments.
@Bert:
While reading the artima article I had the idea that DCI could easily be
implemented in smalltalk, but then it surprises me when Jim was disappointed
with smalltalk implementation. All my curiosity move towards understanding
what's the
Hi Erlis,
Class based language is very difficult for some people to grasp. I've
trained a number of programmers. There is this AH moment when people get
it. Before that the idea is just so foreign to them that they have a
difficult time grasping what is going on. I would often get the
Maybe Trygve will explain? Not sure if he's reading the newbies list though.
CC'ing.
- Bert -
On 21.06.2011, at 16:27, Ron Teitelbaum wrote:
Hi Erlis,
Class based language is very difficult for some people to grasp. I’ve
trained a number of programmers. There is this AH moment when
Hi guys,
thanks for all responses, I hope to find more insight about this.
here is the interview in which Jim make the statement
http://www.infoq.com/interviews/coplien-dci-architecture
Minute 8:08
Erlis
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.dewrote:
Maybe
bblochl at arcor.de wrote:
you can find it here:
http://blog.redtexture.net/2010/06/01/coplien-on-dci-mvc/
You find the answer on the page the link to you cited above:
... It is interesting that (as a consequence of web browsers) the most used
language on the planet, JavaScript,
Hi Blochl,
Thanks for your answer. I did know about Javascript computational model, but
you are right, Javascript is a beautiful language and not everyone reach to
fully understand it. Maybe because it's mainly used as supported language
for the UI.
But many interesting things are happening with
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Hi Blochl
On 21.06.2011, at 21:51, bblo...@arcor.de wrote:
I know the Lively Kernel and did some tests. I have some problems with the
old fashioned handling, that reminds me to the bloated squeak GUI. Pharo has
a refreshing new UI aproach, closer to the nowaday commons.
Could you give an example what
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